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Post by elmex on Mar 7, 2020 7:26:09 GMT -5
I just listened to the podcast saying Emotiva is not going to Axpona. I think it is the right thing and responsible thing to do. They already canceled southwest by southwest in my home town in Austin. Yesterday they announced the first case of the corona virus in Lexington Ky where I live now. I am disappointed because this would of been my first Axpona but I agree it is the right thing to do. God bless and thanks Emotiva for watching out for me.
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Post by vcautokid on Mar 7, 2020 7:37:01 GMT -5
Everyone needs to be safe. As time goes on things should get better. Shows of any kind maybe cancelled. Any large venue with many people in confined spaces are the highest risk. We have to smarter with our health more than ever. Not going and keeping their team safe is the smartest move Emotiva could do all this year.
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Post by cawgijoe on Mar 7, 2020 10:41:25 GMT -5
A friend is going to the NAB show in Vegas in April. It’s still on, but a few exhibitors have dropped out including Nikon.
He says the show will go on.
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Post by RichGuy on Mar 7, 2020 12:38:54 GMT -5
Maybe everyone should just cancel everything people need to drive to because the odds of someone being killed by a car accident are astounding compared to the odds of the coronavirus. I mean be safe everyone, use common sense and be careful of spreading diseases but this coronavirus panic that is spreading is getting out of control. - Normal flu deaths approx. 46,000 per year in the USA
- Car accidents deaths approx. 1.2 million each year in the USA
- Coronavirus deaths currently I think the last count is 17 in the USA, being broadcast continuously by every news station and updated by the minute if someone new should die or become sick.
Be safe.... but stop the ridiculous panic. Can you imagine the news updating the death count every time someone in the US was killed in a traffic accident the way it's being done with the coronavirus. The other news stories would be about the shortage of safety helmets, shortage of full safety harnesses, people lining up to have custom roll cages installed in their cars, the demand for safer cars and safer streets, people afraid to leave home or afraid to drive to work (or anywhere) and of course protestors at every car lot and people demanding for cars to be banned. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2020 14:07:12 GMT -5
What RichGuy said.
You would think Ebola came to town.
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Post by macromicroman on Mar 7, 2020 14:11:42 GMT -5
Car accidents and flu death are old news. Nobody is going to get excited by a few more. If this virus was reported as another flu it would not be causing so much fear. The NEWS is supposed to get us excited and make us think we have to what every newscast. If we didn't watch they would be able to sell ads for lawyers telling us that we can get millions of dollars for every accident or disease we get or listen to all the political bull.
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Post by brutiarti on Mar 7, 2020 15:37:37 GMT -5
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Post by klinemj on Mar 7, 2020 15:44:06 GMT -5
I think it's wise to take precautions. People keep throwing out all these comparisons to deaths by other reasons. But, the US has 331,000,000 people. Let's say we don't take it seriously, and 1% get the virus. That's 3,310,000 people. Death rates have been around 4%, so that would be 132,400 deaths. Net, it's something to take precautions about to cut its spread. Large public gatherings in close spaces are key risks. Here's a little light reading for those interested in what the WHO thinks based on data to date: -->CLICK THIS LINK<---Science is good. Enjoy the light reading...and, note the quote on Page 19: Mark |
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Post by Soup on Mar 7, 2020 17:16:35 GMT -5
I am more worried about a bum external drive I have and the amount of music I have to replace. Perspective.
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Post by bolle on Mar 8, 2020 5:20:53 GMT -5
And those "not worried" people are the ones which actually help the virus spread...
As Mark (Klinemj) said, the nasty thing with Corona is a) that it´s an about 2-4% death rate and b) that the incubation period is pretty long (about 2 weeks) without any symptoms, AND the symptoms are very similar to a normal flu or cold.
Personally I think we are behind the point where it still can be stopped/contained. So it is not unlikely that the majority of people will get it in the next 2 years and then we are talking about quite a few more deaths.
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Post by Boomzilla on Mar 8, 2020 6:40:41 GMT -5
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Post by bolle on Mar 8, 2020 7:39:34 GMT -5
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Post by 405x5 on Mar 8, 2020 8:53:16 GMT -5
What RichGuy said. You would think Ebola came to town. Yes...except that US automotive death figure.....Not 1.2 million ....that’s a Global figure. Around 50k annual is the US number |
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Post by mshump on Mar 9, 2020 18:57:07 GMT -5
March 9, 2020
Dear AXPONA Community,
AXPONA has been rescheduled from April 17-19 to August 7-9, 2020 out of concern for the health and safety
of all participants due to the growing coronavirus situation. This decision was made following an outpouring of
feedback from the AXPONA community over the last 72 hours.
The three most consistent themes we heard were, 1) fears of attending public events will increase in March
and April, 2) AXPONA should still be held in 2020, and 3) reschedule later this year if possible. Although the
Renaissance Schaumburg Hotel is booked solid all year, they offered us a week in August that will
accommodate all of AXPONA's space needs. So we secured it.
We rescheduled out of an abundance of caution during this unpredictable time to provide the best opportunity
for a well attended event and to ensure the best AXPONA experience for all show goers in 2020. We will
contact all exhibitors and attendees directly later this week as we work through the details of the move.
Our sole priority today is to communicate this news immediately so everyone can adjust their plans
accordingly. We thank you for your understanding and we apologize for any inconvenience.
We look forward to seeing you all at AXPONA in August!
Sincerely,
Joel A.Davis
Founder & CEO, JD E
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Post by RichGuy on Mar 9, 2020 19:45:46 GMT -5
The French have come up with a new method for greeting people in public to help against the spread of coronavirus.
I have been using this method for years now and I haven't been sick since.
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Post by IronPigsDigs on Mar 9, 2020 22:56:43 GMT -5
The French have come up with a new method for greeting people in public to help against the spread of coronavirus. I have been using this method for years now and I haven't been sick since. Awesome! |
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Post by thompson12 on Mar 10, 2020 5:02:49 GMT -5
If we ever meet I hope you keep your greetings to yourself.  Mitch |
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Post by thompson12 on Mar 10, 2020 5:03:59 GMT -5
The French have come up with a new method for greeting people in public to help against the spread of coronavirus. I have been using this method for years now and I haven't been sick since. Awesome! If we ever meet I hope you keep your greetings to yourself. Mitch |
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Post by klinemj on Mar 10, 2020 9:58:11 GMT -5
Maybe everyone should just cancel everything people need to drive to because the odds of someone being killed by a car accident are astounding compared to the odds of the coronavirus. I mean be safe everyone, use common sense and be careful of spreading diseases but this coronavirus panic that is spreading is getting out of control. - Normal flu deaths approx. 46,000 per year in the USA
- Car accidents deaths approx. 1.2 million each year in the USA
- Coronavirus deaths currently I think the last count is 17 in the USA, being broadcast continuously by every news station and updated by the minute if someone new should die or become sick.
Be safe.... but stop the ridiculous panic. Can you imagine the news updating the death count every time someone in the US was killed in a traffic accident the way it's being done with the coronavirus. The other news stories would be about the shortage of safety helmets, shortage of full safety harnesses, people lining up to have custom roll cages installed in their cars, the demand for safer cars and safer streets, people afraid to leave home or afraid to drive to work (or anywhere) and of course protestors at every car lot and people demanding for cars to be banned. Another thing to consider is the mortality rate and preventability of the flu vs. COVID-19. The % of people dying from the flu is ~0.1% "all in" from 2019's full data. It's ~4% for COVID-19 based on the cumulative data (China, Europe, Korea, middle east, US, etc.). Net, if you get COVID-19, the chances of a bad outcome are 40x higher than for the flu (worse if you are older and/or have respiratory issues to start with). And, COVID-19 is just starting in the US. If it were to spread to the same # of people who got the flu in the past year, there would be 1,750,000 US deaths. Net, it's much more important to prevent COVID-19's spread than it is the flu. That's why we're seeing the concerns and cancelling of large events that put people in close contact and require travel from various places - no need to help the virus travel! And lastly, there's a vaccine for the flu...not yet for COVID-19. So, all-in-all, it's worth being cautious and following the WHO's and CDC's reco's. The latest one I just read what that COVID-19 can survive 7-9 days on surfaces...like, countertops, sinks, toilets, etc. So, in addition to handwashing, they are recommending sterilizing surfaces routinely. (And, all the other steps in the WHO report I shared). Mark |
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Post by KeithL on Mar 10, 2020 12:10:50 GMT -5
I would advise being very careful about generalizing the WHO information to the US.
For example, the WHO considers hand sanitizer important... However, if you read the fine print, they say that simply washing your hands is far more effective... (So hand sanitizer is only really important in countries where there is limited access to clean water to wash your hands... which actually describes lots of places.)
The simple reality is that, when you have a highly contagious disease, which many people can catch and spread without ever having any symptoms, exposure is almost inevitable. Even with all we know about the Flu, and how well reported it is, the estimates of the number of people who catch it, and who die from it, are always stated with a range of around 2:1 ("between 20k and 40k").
With a disease like CoVid-19, which is very contagious, and which many people will have without ever knowing it, there is no idea how far it has already spread, and it seems unlikely that it can actually be stopped. The actual numbers are virtually unknown... because very few people who don't show symptoms are actually tested... and apparently many people don't show symptoms. (The latest guess is that it may have been "circulating" in Washington for quite some time before anyone even noticed.)
However, because it is so contagious, the best we can hope for is limit exposure as much as possible... thereby reducing the number of serious cases that occur all at once... and reducing the strain on health care and the economy.
Maybe everyone should just cancel everything people need to drive to because the odds of someone being killed by a car accident are astounding compared to the odds of the coronavirus. I mean be safe everyone, use common sense and be careful of spreading diseases but this coronavirus panic that is spreading is getting out of control. - Normal flu deaths approx. 46,000 per year in the USA
- Car accidents deaths approx. 1.2 million each year in the USA
- Coronavirus deaths currently I think the last count is 17 in the USA, being broadcast continuously by every news station and updated by the minute if someone new should die or become sick.
Be safe.... but stop the ridiculous panic. Can you imagine the news updating the death count every time someone in the US was killed in a traffic accident the way it's being done with the coronavirus. The other news stories would be about the shortage of safety helmets, shortage of full safety harnesses, people lining up to have custom roll cages installed in their cars, the demand for safer cars and safer streets, people afraid to leave home or afraid to drive to work (or anywhere) and of course protestors at every car lot and people demanding for cars to be banned. Another thing to consider is the mortality rate and preventability of the flu vs. COVID-19. The % of people dying from the flu is ~0.1% "all in" from 2019's full data. It's ~4% for COVID-19 based on the cumulative data (China, Europe, Korea, middle east, US, etc.). Net, if you get COVID-19, the chances of a bad outcome are 40x higher than for the flu (worse if you are older and/or have respiratory issues to start with). And, COVID-19 is just starting in the US. If it were to spread to the same # of people who got the flu in the past year, there would be 1,750,000 US deaths. Net, it's much more important to prevent COVID-19's spread than it is the flu. That's why we're seeing the concerns and cancelling of large events that put people in close contact and require travel from various places - no need to help the virus travel! And lastly, there's a vaccine for the flu...not yet for COVID-19. So, all-in-all, it's worth being cautious and following the WHO's and CDC's reco's. The latest one I just read what that COVID-19 can survive 7-9 days on surfaces...like, countertops, sinks, toilets, etc. So, in addition to handwashing, they are recommending sterilizing surfaces routinely. (And, all the other steps in the WHO report I shared). Mark |
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