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Post by tylormcvey on Sept 17, 2020 18:20:26 GMT -5
Hello all. I just recently started playing with my xmc-2. I haven't set it up completely, but I have updated firmware to 2.1
My Samsung QLED Q6FN isn't seeing it for ARC to return audio to Emo. Normally, I would say the audio to ARC in my TV settings & that's all. I've unplugged HDMI (newly purchased Monoprice 8k HDMI) from both devices (10+ seconds as recommended), pulled power from both devices to cold start, double checked correct connections (HDMI 2 out ARC on Emo, HDMI 4 in ARC on Sam)....
Anyone have this (or similar) issue??
Monoprice DynamicView Ultra 8K Premium High Speed HDMI Cable, 48Gbps, 8K, Dynamic HDR, eARC
ARC worked perfectly with Yamaha previously in my system
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Post by tylormcvey on Sept 17, 2020 18:22:38 GMT -5
Is somebody has noticed that the sound to tv in standby video always on mode when the XMC-2 is off, making static and crackling noise? Same annoying noise always present by the spdif optical output in standby or even on full powered mode. I reinstalled back the firmware version 1.9 and nothing of the above noise append. Reinstalled the version 1.10 , and the problem reappear. I am trying to figure out why my ARC isn't working. While I'm in "HDMI ARC" input, I hear that same static, crackle sound
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Post by ttocs on Sept 17, 2020 18:37:34 GMT -5
Hello all. I just recently started playing with my xmc-2. I haven't set it up completely, but I have updated firmware to 2.1 My Samsung QLED Q6FN isn't seeing it for ARC to return audio to Emo. Normally, I would say the audio to ARC in my TV settings & that's all. I've unplugged HDMI (newly purchased Monoprice 8k HDMI) from both devices (10+ seconds as recommended), pulled power from both devices to cold start, double checked correct connections (HDMI 2 out ARC on Emo, HDMI 4 in ARC on Sam).... Anyone have this (or similar) issue?? Monoprice DynamicView Ultra 8K Premium High Speed HDMI Cable, 48Gbps, 8K, Dynamic HDR, eARC ARC worked perfectly with Yamaha previously in my system Some folks are able to get ARC working with minimal effort, only requiring the tv to be connected to the HDMI-2 Output of the XMC-2. Others need to enable CEC by going to Setup:: HDMI CEC:: Enable and checking the checkbox, then backing out of the Menu and doing a cold boot. Then there's folks like me who need to enable CEC, and also enable Audio To Tv, then doing a cold boot. Lots of variables. CEC stinks. ARC isn't much better. Have fun with the journey.
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Post by tylormcvey on Sept 17, 2020 18:37:57 GMT -5
So HDMI-CEC is not enabled nor are any of the other CEC options? For me, HDMI CEC - volume, input change enabled. On the TV - simplelink(CEC) enabled, power on disabled. Sound - HDMI ARC enabled, mode is Auto. And it is work with my LG SK(not OLED) 2018 model. Also LG C8. I can change input to HDMI ARC automatically by just press Netflix button on remo. And whatever input I am using, I can control volume with my TV remo(this is somewhat weird behavior). Only DD+Atmos is not work, but at least all other functions are work. It does not work at all when I upgrade FW 2.1, I was in panic, that I thought TV is somewhat broken. But it wasn’t. Just turn off RMC for a minute(turn main switch on rear panel), turn it on again, while Emotiva is booting(progress bar is moving), just press volume button on TV remote. It makes RMC-1 properly initialize protocol handshake with my TV. It fixes my ARC problem until now. Used this procedure, & it worked for me. Thanks!
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Post by frenchyfranky on Sept 17, 2020 20:09:09 GMT -5
Is somebody has noticed that the sound to tv in standby video always on mode when the XMC-2 is off, making static and crackling noise? Same annoying noise always present by the spdif optical output in standby or even on full powered mode. I reinstalled back the firmware version 1.9 and nothing of the above noise append. Reinstalled the version 1.10 , and the problem reappear. I am trying to figure out why my ARC isn't working. While I'm in "HDMI ARC" input, I hear that same static, crackle sound this problem was in the 1.10 FW. Running 2.1 FW now and it solved. What is your actual FW version?
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Post by tylormcvey on Sept 18, 2020 17:03:59 GMT -5
I am trying to figure out why my ARC isn't working. While I'm in "HDMI ARC" input, I hear that same static, crackle sound this problem was in the 1.10 FW. Running 2.1 FW now and it solved. What is your actual FW version? I am running 2.1 I only heard it while I had no signal. Once ARC handshake was successful, I don't notice it, even when not playing any audio
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Post by SOWK on Sept 19, 2020 9:38:08 GMT -5
Repost - Would like to get a response please.
KeithL Hair Nick Lonnie
Can we get an update on what is being worked on for the G3P's?
1. Are you working on getting Dirac Bass Management Add-On working and available? 2. Are you working on getting the Dirac correction up to 96Khz? 3. Are you working on getting DTS X Pro working? 4. Are you working on getting an HDMI 2.1 input and output board? 5. Are you working on the channel expansion modules for the Emotiva RMC-1 G3P? Etc.
I think a lot of us would just like a road maps of sorts.
Personally item number 1 and 5 are most important to me, but I know there is a lot of different things that can be being worked on.
Thank you,
SOWK
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Post by LCSeminole on Sept 19, 2020 10:02:02 GMT -5
Repost - Would like to get a response please. KeithL Hair Nick Lonnie Can we get an update on what is being worked on for the G3P's? 1. Are you working on getting Dirac Bass Management Add-On working and available? 2. Are you working on getting the Dirac correction up to 96Khz? 3. Are you working on getting DTS X Pro working? 4. Are you working on getting an HDMI 2.1 input and output board? 5. Are you working on the channel expansion modules for the Emotiva RMC-1 G3P? Etc. I think a lot of us would just like a road maps of sorts. Personally item number 1 and 5 are most important to me, but I know there is a lot of different things that can be being worked on. Thank you, SOWK While I'm not Lonnie/Nick/Keith, if I were a betting man in Las Vegas, I'd wager(and there are no sure bets) or" GUESS" that your #1,3,4,5 are as close to sure bets as it gets. I'll go out on a limb and say #4, if it's on their radar to accomplish, isn't a priority.
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Post by megash0n on Sept 19, 2020 10:41:24 GMT -5
Repost - Would like to get a response please. KeithL Hair Nick Lonnie Can we get an update on what is being worked on for the G3P's? 1. Are you working on getting Dirac Bass Management Add-On working and available? 2. Are you working on getting the Dirac correction up to 96Khz? 3. Are you working on getting DTS X Pro working? 4. Are you working on getting an HDMI 2.1 input and output board? 5. Are you working on the channel expansion modules for the Emotiva RMC-1 G3P? Etc. I think a lot of us would just like a road maps of sorts. Personally item number 1 and 5 are most important to me, but I know there is a lot of different things that can be being worked on. Thank you, SOWK While I'm not Lonnie/Nick/Keith, if I were a betting man in Las Vegas, I'd wager(and there are no sure bets) or" GUESS" that your #1,3,4,5 are as close to sure bets as it gets. I'll go out on a limb and say #4, if it's on their radar to accomplish, isn't a priority. They are sure bets because they've "promised" them in some way or another. I think what we are looking for is actual meat to this bone. Has the process started? Do we understand what it takes to make it happen. Has a single line of code been written to get down these paths? While I appreciate the commitment, if the words are just words, they are empty promises. The last conversation I had regarding DLBC I was told the functionality needed violates Dolby licensing agreements. As we have seen in the past, when Emotiva thinks something violates Dolby's agreements, things just sit regardless of what dozens of other manufacturers are doing. It would be nice to know if active development is taken place on these things.
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Post by LCSeminole on Sept 19, 2020 11:01:42 GMT -5
While I'm not Lonnie/Nick/Keith, if I were a betting man in Las Vegas, I'd wager(and there are no sure bets) or" GUESS" that your #1,3,4,5 are as close to sure bets as it gets. I'll go out on a limb and say #4, if it's on their radar to accomplish, isn't a priority. They are sure bets because they've "promised" them in some way or another. I think what we are looking for is actual meat to this bone. Has the process started? Do we understand what it takes to make it happen. Has a single line of code been written to get down these paths? While I appreciate the commitment, if the words are just words, they are empty promises. The last conversation I had regarding DLBC I was told the functionality needed violates Dolby licensing agreements. As we have seen in the past, when Emotiva thinks something violates Dolby's agreements, things just sit regardless of what dozens of other manufacturers are doing. It would be nice to know if active development is taken place on these things. Shawn, If you or any other G3P owner want these questions answered, then pick up the phone and ask. They will either give an answer that satisfies you or they won't. If you aren't getting what you want here, then choose a processor manufacturer that will answer all of your questions immediately and directly.
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Post by Mikomill on Sept 19, 2020 13:43:39 GMT -5
They are sure bets because they've "promised" them in some way or another. I think what we are looking for is actual meat to this bone. Has the process started? Do we understand what it takes to make it happen. Has a single line of code been written to get down these paths? While I appreciate the commitment, if the words are just words, they are empty promises. The last conversation I had regarding DLBC I was told the functionality needed violates Dolby licensing agreements. As we have seen in the past, when Emotiva thinks something violates Dolby's agreements, things just sit regardless of what dozens of other manufacturers are doing. It would be nice to know if active development is taken place on these things. Shawn, If you or any other G3P owner want these questions answered, then pick up the phone and ask. They will either give an answer that satisfies you or they won't. If you aren't getting what you want here, then choose a processor manufacturer that will answer all of your questions immediately and directly. Excellent Advice! Hopefully it will be followed.
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Post by JNieves on Sept 19, 2020 20:13:10 GMT -5
Quick question - I've managed to lose the power supply for the Emotiva switch included in the Dirac kit. Does anybody know the input voltage? I would highly appreciate it.
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Post by Stephen Park on Sept 19, 2020 21:06:17 GMT -5
My LG TV finally able to play DD+ 7.1/Atmos contents through HDMI ARC. I install Apple TV plus app on my LG TV, and success to activate it. My RMC-1L working with ATMOS contents now. So it is not the fault of Emotiva, but Netflix and Prime Video app for LG WebOS. But still I am wondering, then why these app can send and play ATMOS stream to other processors? It is indeed compatability issue between these app and Emotiva but as Apple TV plus app is working nicely, I think Netflix and Prime Video app caused these problem at first place, but not sure. I will complain LG Support Center, hopefully they could fix these up. LG fixes some ARC issues before through my repeated strong complaint, so I will try.
Anyway, I am happy with Emotiva more, enjoy ARC / ATMOS with APPLE TV+. One thing however, there is high frequency “tick” noise come randomly, not all the time but rarely. Not that much bother me but little annoying.
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Post by ttocs on Sept 19, 2020 21:10:32 GMT -5
Quick question - I've managed to lose the power supply for the Emotiva switch included in the Dirac kit. Does anybody know the input voltage? I would highly appreciate it.
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Post by JNieves on Sept 19, 2020 23:52:56 GMT -5
Quick question - I've managed to lose the power supply for the Emotiva switch included in the Dirac kit. Does anybody know the input voltage? I would highly appreciate it. Thank you kindly.
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Post by bsinger on Sept 20, 2020 16:50:59 GMT -5
Speaker Level Problems, Anyone else??
After upgrading firmware to 2.1 (carefully following instructions inc factory reset etc) and running Dirac the sound was a huge step backwards, bloated bass...
Went into levels and they were off dramatically. Using the RMC mid level test signal, i could not get to 75db without turning gains on my amps all the way up (35 db gain!) Plus one speaker needed the max plus 12db setting in the RMC to get to 75db.
Same thing in the non dirac presst 2
Anyone else? Suggestions?
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Post by bsinger on Sept 20, 2020 17:25:08 GMT -5
Speaker Level Problems, Anyone else?? After upgrading firmware to 2.1 (carefully following instructions inc factory reset etc) and running Dirac the sound was a huge step backwards, bloated bass... Went into levels and they were off dramatically. Using the RMC mid level test signal, i could not get to 75db without turning gains on my amps all the way up (35 db gain!) Plus one speaker needed the max plus 12db setting in the RMC to get to 75db. Same thing in the non dirac presst 2 Anyone else? Suggestions? Then i listen to a Dolby Atmos concert and th levels seem very high, like + 15db relative to reference, ie i need a mush lower volume on the rmc, but the surrounds sound particularly high. I pop in the spears and munsil blu ray with the 7.1 dts 75 db test signals and set the rmc to direct mode and i hit 75 db on the left channel at -5db on the RMC. The center channel is at 90db right channel at 76db and one surround at 92 db.
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Post by ttocs on Sept 20, 2020 17:53:20 GMT -5
Speaker Level Problems, Anyone else?? After upgrading firmware to 2.1 (carefully following instructions inc factory reset etc) and running Dirac the sound was a huge step backwards, bloated bass... Went into levels and they were off dramatically. Using the RMC mid level test signal, i could not get to 75db without turning gains on my amps all the way up (35 db gain!) Plus one speaker needed the max plus 12db setting in the RMC to get to 75db. Same thing in the non dirac presst 2 Anyone else? Suggestions? My Levels after running Dirac: The Levels should be at zero. Dirac does its own leveling. Go to the Dirac thread to find all the answers. Especially go over the first few posts with resource info, lots there. emotivalounge.proboards.com/thread/57079/official-dirac-thread-start-postsDirac will quite often be a lower volume, the answer can be found in the Dirac thread. Like I said, lots of info there. If the volume is WAY TOO LOW then there's a problem with one or more channels being able to produce proper volume without a huge dip somewhere. Also, need more info to help more. Screenshots of how you are setting up the Volume Calibration, and Target curves. Please don't do one screen shot showing a mess of lines for all speakers, just one Group at a time, but in the Dirac thread please.
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Post by bsinger on Sept 20, 2020 23:24:38 GMT -5
[quoteThe Levels should be at zero. Dirac does its own leveling. Go to the Dirac thread to find all the answers. Especially go over the first few posts with resource info, lots there. emotivalounge.proboards.com/thread/57079/official-dirac-thread-start-postsDirac will quite often be a lower volume, the answer can be found in the Dirac thread. Like I said, lots of info there. If the volume is WAY TOO LOW then there's a problem with one or more channels being able to produce proper volume without a huge dip somewhere...[/quote] Thanks for reference but this behavior doesn't seem to be Dirac related. It is present on my preset 2 that has no dirac or other eq and there are inconsistent levels between individual channels dependent on source whether i use the rmc-1 level signals or test levels from a blu ray in direct mode ie no dirac. Yes, the rmc test tones are too low and i have to crank up amplifier gain and rmc channel gain to get the med pink noise to reach 75d but then when i go back to program material gains are too high and speakers aren't anywhere close to matched in direct mode. It is as if the rmc test tones are of random inconsistent and low levels - worse than useless.
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Post by ttocs on Sept 21, 2020 0:10:41 GMT -5
Thanks for reference but this behavior doesn't seem to be Dirac related. It is present on my preset 2 that has no dirac or other eq and there are inconsistent levels between individual channels dependent on source whether i use the rmc-1 level signals or test levels from a blu ray in direct mode ie no dirac. Yes, the rmc test tones are too low and i have to crank up amplifier gain and rmc channel gain to get the med pink noise to reach 75d but then when i go back to program material gains are too high and speakers aren't anywhere close to matched in direct mode. It is as if the rmc test tones are of random inconsistent and low levels - worse than useless. Setup:: Speakers:: Preset1or2:: Levels:: Test Tone:: Low, Medium, High. High is 10dB more than Medium. When I change to User on the Preset and use Medium test tones, my Left Front SPL is 72dB, and the Left Width is 69dB with Levels for both at 0.0dB. Using a Dirac filter the SPL for both is lower but the same at 66dB. The Left front is more efficient but is driven by lower gain tube amp, whereas the lower efficiency Widths are powered by a weaker slightly higher gain amp. Amplifier gain factor, speaker efficiency, distance from the speaker all play into how loud you will hear it at the MLP. The test tones are just for leveling when using the USER Preset, the actual number you measure isn't something you need to "match" to whatever the stated dB level is, unless you want to sit a foot from the speaker. Levels should not be used with a Dirac filter, all speakers should be set to 0.0. Dirac does the leveling. If you have a Dirac filter in a Preset, keep those levels at zero. If you want to use the other Preset for USER, then you would Level as usual, but you'll be dissapointed if you mix Dirac filters with that Preset because you'll need to re-level when going between User and Dirac within the same Preset. It simply will NOT work. Lots written about this in the Dirac thread.
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