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Post by leo46 on Jan 30, 2021 15:40:19 GMT -5
In fact my main problem is Asio4All. I can't make it work to select my LFE channel.   I only have these options... |
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Post by marcl on Jan 30, 2021 17:05:11 GMT -5
In fact my main problem is Asio4All. I can't make it work to select my LFE channel. I only have these options... I've had this problem and it's frustrating. Usually rebooting the PC fixes it. But a couple questions. Did this ever work or has it just failed? If it never did work, is your PC set up to output 7.1 to HDMI? Go into ASIO setup and be sure the right output device is selected. Look for the tutorial by Austin Jerry on the forums. He describes the setup in detail. Once you're successful the Output list will include 8 choices and LFE is #4. |
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Post by foggy1956 on Jan 30, 2021 18:21:59 GMT -5
In fact my main problem is Asio4All. I can't make it work to select my LFE channel. I only have these options... I've had this problem and it's frustrating. Usually rebooting the PC fixes it. But a couple questions. Did this ever work or has it just failed? If it never did work, is your PC set up to output 7.1 to HDMI? Go into ASIO setup and be sure the right output device is selected. Look for the tutorial by Austin Jerry on the forums. He describes the setup in detail. Once you're successful the Output list will include 8 choices and LFE is #4. ASIO4ALL is a PITA with REW but necessary IMO. |
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Post by leo46 on Jan 31, 2021 7:27:35 GMT -5
Hello Marcl. It never worked. I'll try again, but this morning i've succeeded in making Asio4all "works" on my laptop. I say "works" because sometime channel 1 was front left, and sometime it was front right.. A big pain in the *ss ! So I used my XPA to cut off all unwanted channel, because sometime it was atmos left.. Unfortunately i did only Subs together, and front left with subs. This time Front large didn't affect the output of the subs. I had already a 3.75ms delay on my closest sub. And I had to add 10ms to both subs to align them with my front left. Curve is not bad at all after PEQ.  I'll make Asio4all works perfectly, and then do R+ subs too. |
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Post by marcl on Jan 31, 2021 7:48:43 GMT -5
Hello Marcl. It never worked. I'll try again, but this morning i've succeeded in making Asio4all "works" on my laptop. I say "works" because sometime channel 1 was front left, and sometime it was front right.. A big pain in the *ss ! So I used my XPA to cut off all unwanted channel, because sometime it was atmos left.. Unfortunately i did only Subs together, and front left with subs. This time Front large didn't affect the output of the subs. I had already a 3.75ms delay on my closest sub. And I had to add 10ms to both subs to align them with my front left. Curve is not bad at all after PEQ. I'll make Asio4all works perfectly, and then do R+ subs too. The response does look really good! Very odd if REW plays to an Atmos speaker though. technically it can only output to 7.1 so something is getting misdirected somewhere. Do you have Austin Jerry's REW guide? I tried to find it but the links are broken. The PDF is too big to attach but here's a TXT version. REW 101 HTS Current Version.txt (107.54 KB) |
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Post by leo46 on Jan 31, 2021 11:43:39 GMT -5
hello sorry it may be a misinformation : it was a surround not an atmos. but anyway when you're expecting to hear from channel 2, front right, and it's coming from behind...weird  no i haven't found it so far. My lazyness forbid me to read the TEXT file, sorry  |
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Post by moophone on Feb 1, 2021 16:12:05 GMT -5
I just received my UMIK-2 but I can't get it working with the XMC-2. No issues with the Emotiva mic that came with it.
Its complaining about bad signal to noise ratio regardless of what volumes/gains I use (MacOS sierra btw)
Can anyone offer any suggestions?
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Post by ttocs on Feb 1, 2021 16:40:14 GMT -5
I just received my UMIK-2 but I can't get it working with the XMC-2. No issues with the Emotiva mic that came with it. Its complaining about bad signal to noise ratio regardless of what volumes/gains I use. Can anyone offer any suggestions? Did you install the Calibration file that came with the UMIK-2? What is the Gain of the mic as seen on the first Dirac screen? The gain is shown in the title of the microphone selection box and also shows the Calibration files selected.  |
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Post by moophone on Feb 1, 2021 18:15:13 GMT -5
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Post by tenbender on Feb 1, 2021 18:32:48 GMT -5
“Video Remains On”... It’s the higher power mode where the HDMI board remains powered and the system remains loaded. It is also the mode that gives you almost instantaneous boot up. Most processors, like Marantz, use this as their only power option. I use this mode exclusively on my RMC-1L and I’ve never had any problems with it. Damon actually confirmed to me that there’s a bug (or several) in the switching input routines that makes the units slower and could potentionally crash/hang the system over time. This was something they were working on fixing, probably for 2.2. If you use the low power mode there’s no risk of this happening. Atleast if you regulary shut down the processor after use. I also exclusivly used VRO pre 2.0. With 2.1 I have noticed some instability after a while that I never noticed before. I used to regulary reboot the processor once every second week or so. This have not worked for me on 2.1. It becomes unstable in just a few days. I will try VRO again when 2.2 is released. |
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Post by tenbender on Feb 1, 2021 18:37:53 GMT -5
Am having the same issue as above. Weird thing is that my XMC-2 worked perfectly for months and then the issue started. Tried everything that Damon suggested with no success. I would also once in a while get an error message that said there was an issue with the OSD (on screen display) I then decided that I would just wait until the new firmware came out and hopefully that would fix the problem. I switched my setup from VRO to the low power mode. Tried it once and it worked fine. An hour later went to watch TV and all I got was the error init OSD failed. Unit would do nothing after that. It is now back at Emotiva getting repaired. It is almost totally bricked.
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Post by rovinggecko on Feb 2, 2021 16:20:48 GMT -5
I have swapped my bright, shiny, new XMC-2 into my set. And... am struggling with the stereo imaging. I miss the 'middle'. The sound stays ' stuck' to the speakers (LX521.4s).
Running in reference stereo I have this, but I also find the same issue in other modes. Applying dirac filters or not.
Now, my setup is a 4.0 one with 2 LX521.4's as full fronts and two small surrounds.
I will try to change the 2nd preset to be a pure stereo setup with 2 fronts to see if there is any difference.
Anyone recognizing the issue? I was thinking polarity originally, but I only swapped the xlr cables. I will see if I can reverse polarity somewhere down the chain, but not easy with my setup. And if both sides are reversed, it would not give this effect, right?
Thoughts?
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Post by foggy1956 on Feb 2, 2021 17:15:03 GMT -5
I have swapped my bright, shiny, new XMC-2 into my set. And... am struggling with the stereo imaging. I miss the 'middle'. The sound stays ' stuck' to the speakers (LX521.4s). Running in reference stereo I have this, but I also find the same issue in other modes. Applying dirac filters or not. Now, my setup is a 4.0 one with 2 LX521.4's as full fronts and two small surrounds. I will try to change the 2nd preset to be a pure stereo setup with 2 fronts to see if there is any difference. Anyone recognizing the issue? I was thinking polarity originally, but I only swapped the xlr cables. I will see if I can reverse polarity somewhere down the chain, but not easy with my setup. And if both sides are reversed, it would not give this effect, right? Thoughts? Don't know your speakers or how much time you've spent but my system in reference stereo, toe in is critical to imaging. |
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Post by rovinggecko on Feb 2, 2021 17:17:04 GMT -5
It is important in mine as well. But switching a processor should not effect the need for toe in, right?
With my old processor the imaging was fine.
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Post by foggy1956 on Feb 2, 2021 17:33:01 GMT -5
It is important in mine as well. But switching a processor should not effect the need for toe in, right? With my old processor the imaging was fine. Ok, so starting in refernce stereo what would you suggest? |
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Post by KeithL on Feb 2, 2021 18:09:36 GMT -5
I don't have the exact number - but the max output is somewhere between 4V and 6V RMS. (Which is plenty to run anything you might connect it to.)
Hello from Germany. since today owned by rmc1l. Can someone please tell me how many volts maximum flow through the outputs. Thanks 👋 sorry my english ist Not Good (Google-Translate)😬 |
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Post by KeithL on Feb 2, 2021 18:24:34 GMT -5
Just a few thoughts there...
When your Fronts are set to Large...
The two front channels are treated as full range... And the LFE channel alone goes to the Sub...
When your Fronts are set to Small... The low frequencies from the front speakers (below the crossover) is diverted to the Sub... And the LFE channel goes to the Sub...
And, when you enable Enhanced Bass, and the Fronts are set to Large, the Fronts share bass with the sub.
This thing to remember there is that, if you have large Fronts, when they're running full range, they act as two more subs... This MAY mean that you have more bass overall... But it also means that you have a LOT more potential for interactions... You now have THREE "subs", which can each interact with the room, and with each other...
And those Fronts are "nailed to the floor" at the spots where they produce the best imaging and frequency response at midrange and upper frequencies...
(So you can't move them around to find locations where they work the best as subs...)
And, just to make life more interesting, while some music is mixed with true stereo bass... On some music the bass is actually mixed towards mono at lower frequencies... Especially with vinyl albums and old masters intended to be recorded on vinyl... (Because reducing the separation at low frequencies allows you to use narrower grooves and makes a cartridge less likely to mistrack.)
This is one of the reasons why Enhanced Bass is usually not a great idea...
Hello, New owner of an Emotiva RMC-1 coupled with an XPA-7, a 5.2.2 with Focal Aria 926 as mains, and a XTZ 1x12 + XTZ 10.17 Edge as subs. I have some difficulties handling my bass. How do you suggest to configure everything ? I ran a Dirac Live, and use an Harman +6db target curve I modified on some gaps. I use a miniDSP 2x4HD for my subs with 10ms delay on my closest sub, and a PEQ with a nice curve now. Here is my problem : With my fronts as Large, i have nearly 50% of the bass I get when i put them as Small. On REW ran on stereo, i have nearly 0% of bass on my subs when fronts ran as Large. And the right amount when in Small. This is either as LFE or Mono for the Center Sub. The only way to have bass on my subs with fronts as large is to enable the Enhanced bass. Can you help me ? Here is the curve (i forgot to show subs without LR when LR as Large). Caisson are subs. |
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Post by KeithL on Feb 2, 2021 18:48:57 GMT -5
Toe in relates to both frequency response and phase...
And exactly how it does so depends on your speakers and your room...
So anything that changes either of those MIGHT require you to adjust the toe in...
Likewise for running Dirac Live or doing any sort of EQ...
It is important in mine as well. But switching a processor should not effect the need for toe in, right? With my old processor the imaging was fine. |
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Post by rovinggecko on Feb 2, 2021 18:49:26 GMT -5
It is important in mine as well. But switching a processor should not effect the need for toe in, right? With my old processor the imaging was fine. Ok, so starting in refernce stereo what would you suggest? I setup the 2nd speaker setup in pure full range stereo, no change. It kinda sounds like the the ' stereo image' of each single speaker is reversed. When I take a spacial recording going from left to right it kinda goes from right to left side of the left speaker and then right to left side of the right one. I am guessing there is a polarity issue. Maybe the XMC-2 balanced out pin layout is different from my previous processor? |
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Post by foggy1956 on Feb 2, 2021 19:03:39 GMT -5
Ok, so starting in refernce stereo what would you suggest? I setup the 2nd speaker setup in pure full range stereo, no change. It kinda sounds like the the ' stereo image' of each single speaker is reversed. When I take a spacial recording going from left to right it kinda goes from right to left side of the left speaker and then right to left side of the right one. I am guessing there is a polarity issue. Maybe the XMC-2 balanced out pin layout is different from my previous processor? Didn't have that with my xmc-2 but easy enough to test. |
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