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Post by LCSeminole on Mar 22, 2022 19:47:36 GMT -5
Will take a look but since I do not use either CEC or ARC don't know how much good it will do. Thanks! My bad, I saw HDMI-CEC and ARC mentioned several times on this page, and having watched this video from the other day, I suggested it thinking it might help in some way. Now that I’ve fully read your posts, it obviously wouldn’t help.  |
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Post by cawgijoe on Mar 22, 2022 20:24:33 GMT -5
The sequence you describe is correct. The Fios cable box is connected to my RMC-1 via HDMI cable to input 1. The signal is then sent from the RMC to the tv via HDMI cable. No ARC or CEC is running. The tv audio out is connected to a sound bar for audio when no using the RMC audio processing. Since there is no picture, the only way I know that the cable box has come on is when I start getting audio from the sound bar. As soon as I select the appropriate HDMI output the tv's video comes on as it should. I want to stress again that when I turned the tv off the input that was being used or at the very least selected was the one for the tv. The RMC is always in VRO mode. So, to put this to bed, since it is an intermittent problem I am not sure that sofware would help or even if there is a hardware problem. Maybe something I am overlooking but I certainly cannot figure that out. Will live with it for now. Take care. So, I don’t have a sound bar in my system. The sound comes from the TV…..could that be the variable? What about connecting to the TV as a test and taking the sound bar out of the equation…… |
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Post by Topend on Mar 22, 2022 20:50:40 GMT -5
There seems to be a few long term Emotiva customers commenting here that would like an update on future firmware, HDMI upgrade and expansion modules. I too would like to hear something from Emotiva. I’m planning to buy the HDMI upgrade and looking forward to a firmware upgrade that might do away with some minor issues I experience. The Dirac bass management would be a bonus too.
Here’s hoping we hear or get something soon.
Cheers,
Dave.
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Post by Lsc on Mar 22, 2022 22:18:48 GMT -5
Maybe you can add to your signature- “I don’t know why I’m here except to be a troll” 😬 Good idea, I’ll check back in a year or two to see if progress has been made 😉 Lol! Yes, please give at least a year for DLBC & HDMI 2.1. Any sooner would be a miracle. I’ll give you a “ audiobill” and hopefully you will be alerted. EDIT: clearly my http skills suck so I don’t know how to alert you 😂 |
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Post by Thunderduck on Mar 22, 2022 23:06:02 GMT -5
The sequence you describe is correct. The Fios cable box is connected to my RMC-1 via HDMI cable to input 1. The signal is then sent from the RMC to the tv via HDMI cable. No ARC or CEC is running. The tv audio out is connected to a sound bar for audio when no using the RMC audio processing. Since there is no picture, the only way I know that the cable box has come on is when I start getting audio from the sound bar. As soon as I select the appropriate HDMI output the tv's video comes on as it should. I want to stress again that when I turned the tv off the input that was being used or at the very least selected was the one for the tv. The RMC is always in VRO mode. So, to put this to bed, since it is an intermittent problem I am not sure that sofware would help or even if there is a hardware problem. Maybe something I am overlooking but I certainly cannot figure that out. Will live with it for now. Take care. So, I don’t have a sound bar in my system. The sound comes from the TV…..could that be the variable? What about connecting to the TV as a test and taking the sound bar out of the equation…… Could certainly give it a try. The audio (and video) is being sent to the tv from the RMC but with systems nowadays who knows what would affect the way something works. I should point out that as long as I have been using receivers/processors I have not had this issue until now. I do not recall this happening when I was using my XMC-1 or before that my UMC-200 (correct title ?). This includes units from Yamaha, Marantz, and Denon. Have always used a sound bar, even when not using home theater speaker systems. Take care |
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Post by cawgijoe on Mar 23, 2022 6:39:31 GMT -5
So, I don’t have a sound bar in my system. The sound comes from the TV…..could that be the variable? What about connecting to the TV as a test and taking the sound bar out of the equation…… Could certainly give it a try. The audio (and video) is being sent to the tv from the RMC but with systems nowadays who knows what would affect the way something works. I should point out that as long as I have been using receivers/processors I have not had this issue until now. I do not recall this happening when I was using my XMC-1 or before that my UMC-200 (correct title ?). This includes units from Yamaha, Marantz, and Denon. Have always used a sound bar, even when not using home theater speaker systems. Take care Almost miss the old days when everything seemed so simple! Curious what you find. |
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Post by Thunderduck on Mar 23, 2022 7:17:40 GMT -5
Could certainly give it a try. The audio (and video) is being sent to the tv from the RMC but with systems nowadays who knows what would affect the way something works. I should point out that as long as I have been using receivers/processors I have not had this issue until now. I do not recall this happening when I was using my XMC-1 or before that my UMC-200 (correct title ?). This includes units from Yamaha, Marantz, and Denon. Have always used a sound bar, even when not using home theater speaker systems. Take care Almost miss the old days when everything seemed so simple! Curious what you find. With everything still connected as normal, the video and audio came on as it should when the tv was powered on this morning. Don't understand why it is not consistent one way or the other. Maybe it worked because of the Lowest Power reboot? Anyway, will disconnect the sound bar and see how it goes. Only problem with that is it will take some time to make sure that solves the problem. I can go several days in a row with everything working fine and then have one day when the video does not come on. Best Regards! |
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Post by cawgijoe on Mar 23, 2022 7:45:27 GMT -5
Almost miss the old days when everything seemed so simple! Curious what you find. With everything still connected as normal, the video and audio came on as it should when the tv was powered on this morning. Don't understand why it is not consistent one way or the other. Maybe it worked because of the Lowest Power reboot? Anyway, will disconnect the sound bar and see how it goes. Only problem with that is it will take some time to make sure that solves the problem. I can go several days in a row with everything working fine and then have one day when the video does not come on. Best Regards! Thanks Thunderduck....I know it's a pain, but maybe this test can help isolate the component/issue causing the problem....after that, maybe a solution?! Hey...you are down in Woodbridge I see....I'm in Centreville. Not too far apart. |
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Post by doc1963 on Mar 23, 2022 8:14:26 GMT -5
Almost miss the old days when everything seemed so simple! Curious what you find. With everything still connected as normal, the video and audio came on as it should when the tv was powered on this morning. Don't understand why it is not consistent one way or the other. Maybe it worked because of the Lowest Power reboot? Anyway, will disconnect the sound bar and see how it goes. Only problem with that is it will take some time to make sure that solves the problem. I can go several days in a row with everything working fine and then have one day when the video does not come on. Best Regards! How is your sound bar connected to the TV if used in tandem with your AV processor...? |
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Post by Thunderduck on Mar 23, 2022 8:40:20 GMT -5
With everything still connected as normal, the video and audio came on as it should when the tv was powered on this morning. Don't understand why it is not consistent one way or the other. Maybe it worked because of the Lowest Power reboot? Anyway, will disconnect the sound bar and see how it goes. Only problem with that is it will take some time to make sure that solves the problem. I can go several days in a row with everything working fine and then have one day when the video does not come on. Best Regards! How is your sound bar connected to the TV if used in tandem with your AV processor...? By an optical cable. Believe that is what it is called. When I have the RMC turned on, I have to turn off/turn down the volume on the sound bar because if I don't there is one heck of an echo. |
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Post by doc1963 on Mar 23, 2022 8:55:40 GMT -5
How is your sound bar connected to the TV if used in tandem with your AV processor...? By an optical cable. Believe that is what it is called. When I have the RMC turned on, I have to turn off/turn down the volume on the sound bar because if I don't there is one heck of an echo. That's good... and that shouldn't interfere with anything going on with your RMC because your sound bar is "invisible" to the HDMI chain. I don't think you'll gain anything by disconnecting it. If you do, then it's simply by coincidence. If it were HDMI-ARC, then I might be more inclined to say that would be a problem. Any device that has HDMI inputs, per HDMI spec, should report itself as a "processor". There can be only one processor in the chain. If more than one, then you're prone to have HDMI related problems. The only device that I've owned that has an HDMI input without causing issues is my Oppo UDP-203. I don't know how they avoided such issues, but it certainly has never caused any that I'm aware of. |
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Post by Thunderduck on Mar 23, 2022 9:18:14 GMT -5
By an optical cable. Believe that is what it is called. When I have the RMC turned on, I have to turn off/turn down the volume on the sound bar because if I don't there is one heck of an echo. That's good... and that shouldn't interfere with anything going on with your RMC because your sound bar is "invisible" to the HDMI chain. I don't think you'll gain anything by disconnecting it. If you do, then it's simply by coincidence. If it were HDMI-ARC, then I might be more inclined to say that would be a problem. Any device that has HDMI inputs, per HDMI spec, should report itself as a "processor". There can be only one processor in the chain. If more than one, then you're prone to have HDMI related problems. The only device that I've owned that has an HDMI input without causing issues is my Oppo UDP-203. I don't know how they avoided such issues, but it certainly has never caused any that I'm aware of. I believe I may have stumbled onto the reason for this issue. At least I think it is a good possibility. Checking the connections, which are optical, one optical cable goes from the Fios box to the sound bar. Not/not to the tv. And for some reason, I had another optical cable going from the same cable box output to the RMC optical in! This maybe causing some confusion when turn the RMC on? I have no reason as to why I connected things like this. At least I cannot recall why I thought this was a good idea or at least needed. I removed the optical cable going to the RMC and will see what that does. With just the 1 cable to the sound bar audio is fine so I am not missing anything it would seem. Just goes to show you that you should definitely check your connections because you never know what or why you did what you did in the past. This must have been so long ago that I had completely forgotten why I did it like this. Keeping my fingers crossed that the double cable connection may have been the issue. Regards |
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Post by Thunderduck on Mar 23, 2022 9:45:00 GMT -5
Thank you all for making me get off my big behind and actually check things out on my system. I would have merrily gone along thinking I had connections one way when they were actually another. With no idea why I did it like I did.
This is a great forum for throwing idea out there to help others try to come up with solutions. Members cannot fix them all (you are listening Emotiva) but can sure come up with solutions for a lot of issues.
Once again thank you for your help!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2022 16:46:06 GMT -5
Emo - I know you hate having all of us moan, groan, and complain about all things "new firmware" related. Since this one is taking a very long time, more and more of us are loosing heart.
May I suggest this: On the firmware updates page include a locked thread that lists "Things we are looking into for the very next firmware update." (Please leave out the stuff you have no idea when you can implement; eg. HDMI 2.1) And if you need to change the D@#n list to keep it current that's ok.
By having a list (I'm asking for a list, not a detailed explanation) those of us who "need" the next update can follow the rumor and whisper mill closely. Those of us who's problems aren't listed yet can just ignore you and moan, groan, and complain quietly to ourselves.
Thank You
Please seriously consider something like this - you are already spending time and effort on this issue when you give updates in this owners' thread.
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Post by donh50 on Mar 23, 2022 17:38:34 GMT -5
30 dB is a power gain of 1000 times. Do not adjust levels when inebriated. Back when I was a tech, that was one of our larger income sources (college town parties).
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Post by ElectricKoolAid on Mar 24, 2022 8:21:05 GMT -5
30 dB is a power gain of 1000 times. Do not adjust levels when inebriated. Back when I was a tech, that was one of our larger income sources (college town parties). Lesson learned, but they handled it like a champ! I even told the owner of Harbottle Audio (the maker of my subs) his response "beat on em"  They can take quite a beating - dual 24 inch subs powered by 2200w each. |
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Post by atomic4877 on Mar 24, 2022 10:54:30 GMT -5
I have a quick question. I am currently running two subs. Due to placement constraints (doorways), one at the front right of my room and the other is at the right rear. My question, since I am running a dual core 2.0 for my subs to handle the optimization for them. Basically one XLR connected to the left sub output and that inputs signal to both subs, how should I have the subwoofers selected in the RMC-1 to ensure proper calibration with Dirac? Should it be mono, or dual mono?
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Post by ttocs on Mar 24, 2022 11:14:18 GMT -5
Should it be mono, or dual mono? Mono. |
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Post by AudioHTIT on Mar 24, 2022 16:27:38 GMT -5
Should it be mono, or dual mono? Mono. I had that in high school 🏫 |
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Post by Thunderduck on Mar 24, 2022 17:28:18 GMT -5
I had that in high school 🏫 Isn't that the "kissing" disease? At least you had fun getting it. |
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They can take quite a beating - dual 24 inch subs powered by 2200w each. 
