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Post by Thunderduck on Mar 25, 2022 6:58:59 GMT -5
That's good... and that shouldn't interfere with anything going on with your RMC because your sound bar is "invisible" to the HDMI chain. I don't think you'll gain anything by disconnecting it. If you do, then it's simply by coincidence. If it were HDMI-ARC, then I might be more inclined to say that would be a problem. Any device that has HDMI inputs, per HDMI spec, should report itself as a "processor". There can be only one processor in the chain. If more than one, then you're prone to have HDMI related problems. The only device that I've owned that has an HDMI input without causing issues is my Oppo UDP-203. I don't know how they avoided such issues, but it certainly has never caused any that I'm aware of. I believe I may have stumbled onto the reason for this issue. At least I think it is a good possibility. Checking the connections, which are optical, one optical cable goes from the Fios box to the sound bar. Not/not to the tv. And for some reason, I had another optical cable going from the same cable box output to the RMC optical in! This maybe causing some confusion when turn the RMC on? I have no reason as to why I connected things like this. At least I cannot recall why I thought this was a good idea or at least needed. I removed the optical cable going to the RMC and will see what that does. With just the 1 cable to the sound bar audio is fine so I am not missing anything it would seem. Just goes to show you that you should definitely check your connections because you never know what or why you did what you did in the past. This must have been so long ago that I had completely forgotten why I did it like this. Keeping my fingers crossed that the double cable connection may have been the issue. Regards Well, when I turned on the tv this morning there was audio but no video. The RMC is in VRO mode and we were watching tv last night with no problem with the RMC in Standby. I pressed the Input button on the RMC remote that the cable box is connected to and the video came on. The RMC was still in Standby. I guess I could still try disconnecting the sound bar at night before going to bed and then reconnect it in the morning when we start watching tv again. That would defeat the entire purpose of the sound bar though. Would rather not need to turn on my entire system just to watch tv. Regards to all. EDIT: I had the RMC in the box for several months using a different processor until recently when I put it in the system again. I do not recall having this issue when I was using the RMC previously. Would going back to a different firmware be an option? I just installed 2.5 when I started using the RMC again. Thanks to all. |
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Post by cawgijoe on Mar 25, 2022 8:07:51 GMT -5
I believe I may have stumbled onto the reason for this issue. At least I think it is a good possibility. Checking the connections, which are optical, one optical cable goes from the Fios box to the sound bar. Not/not to the tv. And for some reason, I had another optical cable going from the same cable box output to the RMC optical in! This maybe causing some confusion when turn the RMC on? I have no reason as to why I connected things like this. At least I cannot recall why I thought this was a good idea or at least needed. I removed the optical cable going to the RMC and will see what that does. With just the 1 cable to the sound bar audio is fine so I am not missing anything it would seem. Just goes to show you that you should definitely check your connections because you never know what or why you did what you did in the past. This must have been so long ago that I had completely forgotten why I did it like this. Keeping my fingers crossed that the double cable connection may have been the issue. Regards Well, when I turned on the tv this morning there was audio but no video. The RMC is in VRO mode and we were watching tv last night with no problem with the RMC in Standby. I pressed the Input button on the RMC remote that the cable box is connected to and the video came on. The RMC was still in Standby. I guess I could still try disconnecting the sound bar at night before going to bed and then reconnect it in the morning when we start watching tv again. That would defeat the entire purpose of the sound bar though. Would rather not need to turn on my entire system just to watch tv. Regards to all. EDIT: I had the RMC in the box for several months using a different processor until recently when I put it in the system again. I do not recall having this issue when I was using the RMC previously. Would going back to a different firmware be an option? I just installed 2.5 when I started using the RMC again. Thanks to all. I may be wrong, but I don't think this is firmware related. I would only remove the soundbar input for testing purposes and not permanently. It's possible that the FIOS box is an issue to.... In the meantime, pushing one button to get sound/video back is not a game breaker until you get this sorted. |
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Post by Thunderduck on Mar 25, 2022 8:23:57 GMT -5
Believe you may be right about the Fios box being the issue. Seems that I have heard others with Fios having issues as well. Maybe not this one, but others. Will remove the sound bar for testing purposes. See how that goes. But you are correct, one button push to get things working correctly is no big deal. Can live with that.
Thanks much.
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Post by ttocs on Mar 25, 2022 8:58:59 GMT -5
Believe you may be right about the Fios box being the issue. Seems that I have heard others with Fios having issues as well. Maybe not this one, but others. Will remove the sound bar for testing purposes. See how that goes. But you are correct, one button push to get things working correctly is no big deal. Can live with that. Thanks much. Don't discount the impact a tv has on any of these issues. My tv has affected my system in quite a few ways. When I am trying to discover which device is the culprit, I disconnect everything, including the tv (which is how I discovered some of the bad behavior of the tv), and only connect one device at a time. Some issues, like how long a HDMI input change can take, can be done without a display. But obviously, the display is needed so it's gonna be the first item reconnected. An important step to take when doing this is to completely disconnect power between disconnecting and reconnecting sources. In my case I've started with connecting the TiVo only, check operation which sometimes has taken a day, then disconnect the TiVo and power to the processor and tv for a few minutes, then reconnect and add a different source without the TiVo. After trying single source setups, then I added a second, and so on. Diagnosing this stuff is tedious, and many times there's no simple answer. But I did exactly what is stated above to find out that my Apple TV 4K was the culprit for putting my Epson projector to sleep after 30 minutes. I first started with the projector only, then timed for several hours that it didn't turn off. Then I added the TiVo and did the same. Disconnected the TiVo, pulled power for a few minutes, reconnected the tv and added the Apple TV and behold!!!! the projector turned off after 30 minutes. I turned off all CEC stuff in the Apple TV, but IT"S ALIVE! I had to change the sleep settings in the TV4K. It wasn't until a couple years later that doc1963 mentioned about the Lindy CEC-Less adapter that I was comfortable with whatever a product wanted to attempt to do. This is why I won't use CEC except to diagnose problems others are having. CEC has never worked as advertised for every manufacturer's device operation, and for me that includes using it for products from one manufacturer, several Panasonic products of the SAME SERIES that did not work and Panasonic never fixed it. I feel for the folks who feel the need to use it and have problems, but at a certain point it should become clear that CEC is a hit or miss operation. CEC can work for some combinations of products. But it's widely known to behave badly quite a bit. |
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Post by Thunderduck on Mar 25, 2022 9:47:05 GMT -5
Now just using the tv's speakers with the RMC in VRO and Standby. The Fios box now has no connections other than the HDMI out to the RMC #1 Input. Will see how this goes.
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Post by 5channels on Mar 25, 2022 16:52:15 GMT -5
So, is anyone going to give the new 3.0 Firmware a test drive this weekend?
....oh wait, that is a post for another reality.
My apologies!
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Post by marcl on Mar 25, 2022 17:14:36 GMT -5
So, is anyone going to give the new 3.0 Firmware a test drive this weekend? ....oh wait, that is a post for another reality. My apologies! Dude ... ya got me!  |
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Post by Thunderduck on Mar 25, 2022 17:42:14 GMT -5
So, is anyone going to give the new 3.0 Firmware a test drive this weekend? ....oh wait, that is a post for another reality. My apologies! Dude ... ya got me!  Amen! For just a second .... |
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Post by donh50 on Mar 25, 2022 17:47:26 GMT -5
So, is anyone going to give the new 3.0 Firmware a test drive this weekend? ....oh wait, that is a post for another reality. My apologies! Now, that is just cruel... |
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Post by badfusion on Mar 25, 2022 18:19:02 GMT -5
DTS X PRO avalaible in 2050 /////LOL//
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Post by Thunderduck on Mar 25, 2022 18:31:41 GMT -5
DTS X PRO avalaible in 2050 /////LOL// Why would that be available before the firmware update?  |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2022 18:38:31 GMT -5
...EMO - getting the hint yet that the natives are restless?
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Post by hsamwel on Mar 25, 2022 18:51:51 GMT -5
...EMO - getting the hint yet that the natives are restless? I’m quite sure they’ll react soon and tell us it’s imminent..  |
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Post by 5channels on Mar 25, 2022 19:04:21 GMT -5
Well, at least I can take pride in bringing a smile to folks on this forum, which is more than I can say for those who we paid to emote a postiva response...just sayin' Dan & Co.
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Post by PaulBe on Mar 25, 2022 22:40:22 GMT -5
So, is anyone going to give the new 3.0 Firmware a test drive this weekend? ....oh wait, that is a post for another reality. My apologies! Perhaps in a parallel universe? |
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Post by jjkessler on Mar 26, 2022 7:47:31 GMT -5
I have been watching the software upgrade talk and disappointment and have been patient with my RMC-1. What finally dawned on me is with the lack of transparency, is there actually a bigger issue Emotiva has run into while working on the update that’s behind this fairly significant delay ?
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Post by bitzerjdb on Mar 26, 2022 8:21:42 GMT -5
At some point you realize that they don't give a crap. At times I actually wonder if they are working on it at all. I'm actively looking at a replacement and am waiting for the technology to level out (2.1 HDMI adoption for example), and availability to get better. My lust for best sound is now being replaced by best "working". I'm tired of fighting with this damn thing and whenever there is a weird sound issue I feel my frustration building (it doesn't matter if it is a Netflix issue or RMC-1 issue).
The easy fix, honest communication from Emotiva. Oh wait, we don't get that because we are blamed for reacting poorly. We are the problem....
Life is way too short to get pissed about this, for me, it's time to move on. If anyone wants to purchase a lightly used RMC-1l, cheap, PM me.
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Post by Lsc on Mar 26, 2022 12:12:58 GMT -5
I have been watching the software upgrade talk and disappointment and have been patient with my RMC-1. What finally dawned on me is with the lack of transparency, is there actually a bigger issue Emotiva has run into while working or the update that’s behind this fairly significant delay ? Great questions…unfortunately I think the answer is that no one really knows due to a lack of communication. It could be that the developers they hired all decided to move on and they had to hire and train new developers etc etc. |
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Post by msimanyi on Mar 26, 2022 12:22:55 GMT -5
Apparently a number of you missed the earlier discussion that this isn't "just" an Emotiva problem. Other processor / AVR vendors are having similar issues, if not worse.
I've been biting my tongue for a long time on this, but just this once I'm going to allow myself to vent.
Complaining about the lack of transparency and lack of updates doesn't help. It doesn't make updates happen any faster, it doesn't build camaraderie in the community, it doesn't cultivate goodwill between us customers and Emotiva.
It *does* make the people constantly beating the drum look like children throwing tantrums. If you just scream loud enough, obviously someone will give you what you want. (Riiight. That's not how it works.)
We're in a pandemic. Yes, it's the tail end - hopefully - but there are countries still locking down due to the threat. Logistics problems are rampant. Just hiring decent employees is still very difficult. I certainly don't know what difficulties Emotiva and other niche electronics manufacturers are facing, but I know it's hard enough filling the rare open position at my employer.
Let's all have a little patience *and respect* both for the team behind Emotiva products, as well as the other customers on this forum.
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Post by marcl on Mar 26, 2022 12:29:04 GMT -5
Apparently a number of you missed the earlier discussion that this isn't "just" an Emotiva problem. Other processor / AVR vendors are having similar issues, if not worse. I've been biting my tongue for a long time on this, but just this once I'm going to allow myself to vent. Complaining about the lack of transparency and lack of updates doesn't help. It doesn't make updates happen any faster, it doesn't build camaraderie in the community, it doesn't cultivate goodwill between us customers and Emotiva. It *does* make the people constantly beating the drum look like children throwing tantrums. If you just scream loud enough, obviously someone will give you what you want. (Riiight. That's not how it works.) We're in a pandemic. Yes, it's the tail end - hopefully - but there are countries still locking down due to the threat. Logistics problems are rampant. Just hiring decent employees is still very difficult. I certainly don't know what difficulties Emotiva and other niche electronics manufacturers are facing, but I know it's hard enough filling the rare open position at my employer. Let's all have a little patience *and respect* both for the team behind Emotiva products, as well as the other customers on this forum. Agreed 99% .... I would just add that in some cases Emotiva has denied that there was a problem, so some of us presented evidence and kept after it until they finally admitted there was a problem and agreed it had to be fixed. Bass management being a good example. But from there on, yes, patience and respect. |
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