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Post by geebo on Jun 16, 2020 9:05:42 GMT -5
Anyone else had an issue with the lip sync settings not taking and resetting? I'm trying to use the lip sync delay on my Nvidia Shield, so I set the RMC-1's lip sync to 0 and auto sync to off. When I cycle the power the RMC's lip sync has been turned back on to auto, however the menu still shows lip sync 0 and auto sync off.... I have to turn the auto sync on and back off for it to take effect again. I'm having an issue after resetting to defaults yesterday where they video is happening before the audio now. How does one fix that? 😩 Speed up your hearing.
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Post by megash0n on Jun 16, 2020 9:15:12 GMT -5
I'm having an issue after resetting to defaults yesterday where they video is happening before the audio now. How does one fix that? 😩 Speed up your hearing. Dude... I tried. I thought I was maybe intoxicated or something. I've gotta redo all my measurements and distances again now. All my settings reverted back to settings from months ago. I really wish I had a better idea of when Dirac was going to ship before I invest all this time in fixing my settings.
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Post by Thunderduck on Jun 16, 2020 9:45:32 GMT -5
Speed up your hearing. Dude... I tried. I thought I was maybe intoxicated or something. I've gotta redo all my measurements and distances again now. All my settings reverted back to settings from months ago. I really wish I had a better idea of when Dirac was going to ship before I invest all this time in fixing my settings. Did you save your settings before doing the reset? I always save my settings both internally and to usb before doing any kind of reset. Has saved me some agony in the past. Best Regards
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Post by bblv on Jun 16, 2020 9:52:29 GMT -5
Speed up your hearing. Dude... I tried. I thought I was maybe intoxicated or something. I've gotta redo all my measurements and distances again now. All my settings reverted back to settings from months ago. I really wish I had a better idea of when Dirac was going to ship before I invest all this time in fixing my settings. I also did a full reset and didn't want to load backup settings because I was having a very odd issue where the front LCR that had PEQ filters loaded all suddenly sounded "hollow". Didn't want any chance of a wonky setting carrying over. But this lip sync issue is a menu bug that I'm bringing up. The menu shows that lip sync is set to 0 and auto sync is off, yet the auto sync effect STILL delays the audio until you cycle the settings on and off again.
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Post by megash0n on Jun 16, 2020 10:25:28 GMT -5
Dude... I tried. I thought I was maybe intoxicated or something. I've gotta redo all my measurements and distances again now. All my settings reverted back to settings from months ago. I really wish I had a better idea of when Dirac was going to ship before I invest all this time in fixing my settings. I also did a full reset and didn't want to load backup settings because I was having a very odd issue where the front LCR that had PEQ filters loaded all suddenly sounded "hollow". Didn't want any chance of a wonky setting carrying over. But this lip sync issue is a menu bug that I'm bringing up. The menu shows that lip sync is set to 0 and auto sync is off, yet the auto sync effect STILL delays the audio until you cycle the settings on and off again. Is this auto sync in the processor or on another device? I don't recall seeing auto sync.
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Post by megash0n on Jun 16, 2020 10:27:28 GMT -5
Dude... I tried. I thought I was maybe intoxicated or something. I've gotta redo all my measurements and distances again now. All my settings reverted back to settings from months ago. I really wish I had a better idea of when Dirac was going to ship before I invest all this time in fixing my settings. Did you save your settings before doing the reset? I always save my settings both internally and to usb before doing any kind of reset. Has saved me some agony in the past. Best Regards You know... Maybe I misunderstand how "backup settings" works. I assumed that backing up the settings copied it to the USB when backing up. Does it not? Clearly this is on me. I do remember it saying "internal" and "done".
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Post by doc1963 on Jun 16, 2020 10:30:45 GMT -5
I also did a full reset and didn't want to load backup settings because I was having a very odd issue where the front LCR that had PEQ filters loaded all suddenly sounded "hollow". Didn't want any chance of a wonky setting carrying over. But this lip sync issue is a menu bug that I'm bringing up. The menu shows that lip sync is set to 0 and auto sync is off, yet the auto sync effect STILL delays the audio until you cycle the settings on and off again. Is this auto sync in the processor or on another device? I don't recall seeing auto sync. The "Auto" Lip-sync button in the XMC/RMC will only reveal itself if your display supports "HDMI Auto Lip-sync". Not all displays do and, in my case, LG does not. I have to adjust each input separately...
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Post by Thunderduck on Jun 16, 2020 10:51:55 GMT -5
Did you save your settings before doing the reset? I always save my settings both internally and to usb before doing any kind of reset. Has saved me some agony in the past. Best Regards You know... Maybe I misunderstand how "backup settings" works. I assumed that backing up the settings copied it to the USB when backing up. Does it not? Clearly this is on me. I do remember it saying "internal" and "done". I use the front USB slot when saving to a thumb drive. Internal would mean that it was not saved to a USB device. I keep a thumb drive (one of those that are no bigger than a thumb nail) in the front USP slot all the time. Save to it most of the time but remove when I want to save Internally. Regards
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Post by megash0n on Jun 16, 2020 11:28:45 GMT -5
Is this auto sync in the processor or on another device? I don't recall seeing auto sync. The "Auto" Lip-sync button in the XMC/RMC will only reveal itself if your display supports "HDMI Auto Lip-sync". Not all displays do and, in my case, LG does not. I have to adjust each input separately... Ahh... Gotcha. Good to know. Clearly my TV doesn't either.
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Post by megash0n on Jun 16, 2020 11:29:48 GMT -5
You know... Maybe I misunderstand how "backup settings" works. I assumed that backing up the settings copied it to the USB when backing up. Does it not? Clearly this is on me. I do remember it saying "internal" and "done". I use the front USB slot when saving to a thumb drive. Internal would mean that it was not saved to a USB device. I keep a thumb drive (one of those that are no bigger than a thumb nail) in the front USP slot all the time. Save to it most of the time but remove when I want to save Internally. Regards The thing is, I had the Emotiva USB plugged in. If it saved internal, would a factor reset have blown it away?
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Post by markc on Jun 16, 2020 11:52:35 GMT -5
I use the front USB slot when saving to a thumb drive. Internal would mean that it was not saved to a USB device. I keep a thumb drive (one of those that are no bigger than a thumb nail) in the front USP slot all the time. Save to it most of the time but remove when I want to save Internally. Regards The thing is, I had the Emotiva USB plugged in. If it saved internal, would a factor reset have blown it away? Have you checked the file date of the Emotiva backup file on this USB stick? You could have two backups - one internal and on on the USB - and hopefully one of them is a recent backup.
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Post by lwestfall on Jun 16, 2020 12:29:09 GMT -5
Could we get a setting option for starting up in "On" mode instead of "Standby" mode? Could you clarify that? Low Power Sandby is basically the off position, and Video Remains On is the ‘high power’ standby (with quick start) that is almost on. Those options exist, what would you want different? From my original post: I am a generally happy RMC-1 owner (pleased with the sound and patiently but eagerly awaiting Dirac and the additional speaker output expansion boards) and have the same issue as m4rc that appears to have never gotten fully addressed in the now closed RMC-1 owner's thread. (See his last post on the matter here.) Ever since upgrading to the otherwise commendable v1.10 firmware, when the RMC-1 is first turned on, it boots up and then goes immediately into standby mode. I would much prefer it to start up and stay on and await input instead of having to then turn it on again manually. This happens no matter what is connected and even happens when nothing is connected to it. I have CEC off because in the past with CEC on I have had issues with my LG C7 TV taking over input from My Oppo UDP-203 which is my main source. Thanks for looking into this. I would just like to turn my system on and have it all ready to go without having to press power again (on the remote or the unit) after booting up to bring the RMC-1 out of standby mode.
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Post by ttocs on Jun 16, 2020 12:47:20 GMT -5
Could you clarify that? Low Power Sandby is basically the off position, and Video Remains On is the ‘high power’ standby (with quick start) that is almost on. Those options exist, what would you want different? From my original post: I am a generally happy RMC-1 owner (pleased with the sound and patiently but eagerly awaiting Dirac and the additional speaker output expansion boards) and have the same issue as m4rc that appears to have never gotten fully addressed in the now closed RMC-1 owner's thread. (See his last post on the matter here.) Ever since upgrading to the otherwise commendable v1.10 firmware, when the RMC-1 is first turned on, it boots up and then goes immediately into standby mode. I would much prefer it to start up and stay on and await input instead of having to then turn it on again manually. This happens no matter what is connected and even happens when nothing is connected to it. I have CEC off because in the past with CEC on I have had issues with my LG C7 TV taking over input from My Oppo UDP-203 which is my main source. Thanks for looking into this. I would just like to turn my system on and have it all ready to go without having to press power again (on the remote or the unit) after booting up to bring the RMC-1 out of standby mode. Go into the Menu and set the Standby Mode to: Video Remains On Make sure that the rear power switch is never turned off. Make sure that there is power going to the RMC-1 at all times. Or Go into the Menu and set the Standby Mode to: Lowest Power Make sure that the rear power switch is never turned off. Make sure that there is power going to the RMC-1 at all times. Both methods result with one press of the On button to turn on. If power is lost to the RMC-1, then it's a different ballgame. If power is lost, then restored, with Video Remains On the RMC-1 only needs one press of the On button to turn on once the initial power boot is performed after gaining electrical power.
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Post by Thunderduck on Jun 16, 2020 12:52:16 GMT -5
I use the front USB slot when saving to a thumb drive. Internal would mean that it was not saved to a USB device. I keep a thumb drive (one of those that are no bigger than a thumb nail) in the front USP slot all the time. Save to it most of the time but remove when I want to save Internally. Regards The thing is, I had the Emotiva USB plugged in. If it saved internal, would a factor reset have blown it away? I am far from an expert on this subject. Just going by my experiences. It almost sounds like the unit did not recognize that you had the Emotiva USB plugged in and therefore saved internally instead of to the USB device. I have to say I have had pretty iffy luck using my Emotiva USB stick so I do not use it any more. Also, if you did have a USB device plugged in and recognized, it should not be affected by any factory reset or any other type. At least that has been my experience in the past (knock on wood (my head)).
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Post by KeithL on Jun 16, 2020 13:06:48 GMT -5
The unit will always say SAVED INTERNALLY if it saves a file internally rather than on a USB stick. (This will happen whether the reason is that there is no stick or the stick isn't recognized.)
If I recall correctly an INTERNALLY SAVED configuration file WILL remain through a Factory Reset. (As far as I know this is still true... )
HOWEVER, if a stick is inserted, and is recognized, then the stick will be used, and the unit WILL NOT look at its internal storage area. (So, if a stick is inserted and recognized, even if there is no file on that stick, the unit will not look for or use an internally saved file.)
The only way to access a configuration file saved internally is to RESTORE CONFIGURATION with no stick inserted. If you do that, then it will either use the file that is saved internally, or tell you that there is no file. (There is no other way to find out if there is a file saved internally - or to find out the date on one that is.)
I use the front USB slot when saving to a thumb drive. Internal would mean that it was not saved to a USB device. I keep a thumb drive (one of those that are no bigger than a thumb nail) in the front USP slot all the time. Save to it most of the time but remove when I want to save Internally. Regards The thing is, I had the Emotiva USB plugged in. If it saved internal, would a factor reset have blown it away?
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Post by AudioHTIT on Jun 16, 2020 13:13:45 GMT -5
Could you clarify that? Low Power Sandby is basically the off position, and Video Remains On is the ‘high power’ standby (with quick start) that is almost on. Those options exist, what would you want different? From my original post: I am a generally happy RMC-1 owner (pleased with the sound and patiently but eagerly awaiting Dirac and the additional speaker output expansion boards) and have the same issue as m4rc that appears to have never gotten fully addressed in the now closed RMC-1 owner's thread. (See his last post on the matter here.) Ever since upgrading to the otherwise commendable v1.10 firmware, when the RMC-1 is first turned on, it boots up and then goes immediately into standby mode. I would much prefer it to start up and stay on and await input instead of having to then turn it on again manually. This happens no matter what is connected and even happens when nothing is connected to it. I have CEC off because in the past with CEC on I have had issues with my LG C7 TV taking over input from My Oppo UDP-203 which is my main source. Thanks for looking into this. I would just like to turn my system on and have it all ready to go without having to press power again (on the remote or the unit) after booting up to bring the RMC-1 out of standby mode. ttocs has described how the system works perfectly, the only time it will do what you describe is when the rear switch is turned off. Under normal use, without problems or firmware updates, the rear switch should not be used, when it is used it only needs to be turned off for for about a minute and then turned back on.
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Post by bblv on Jun 16, 2020 13:17:50 GMT -5
Is this auto sync in the processor or on another device? I don't recall seeing auto sync. The "Auto" Lip-sync button in the XMC/RMC will only reveal itself if your display supports "HDMI Auto Lip-sync". Not all displays do and, in my case, LG does not. I have to adjust each input separately... Interesting.... I didn't realize the display device had to have that feature. It would make sense to use that over the lip sync delay setting in the Nvidia Shield to avoid these issues I guess, but regardless it's a bug in the RMC-1 firmware.
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Post by doc1963 on Jun 16, 2020 13:35:36 GMT -5
The "Auto" Lip-sync button in the XMC/RMC will only reveal itself if your display supports "HDMI Auto Lip-sync". Not all displays do and, in my case, LG does not. I have to adjust each input separately... Interesting.... I didn't realize the display device had to have that feature. It would make sense to use that over the lip sync delay setting in the Nvidia Shield to avoid these issues I guess, but regardless it's a bug in the RMC-1 firmware. There's no bug involved here... If your display supports HDMI Auto Lip-sync (and in-turn sends the required delay information downstream via EDID), then you will see the " Lip Sync Auto" checkbox in the XMC/RMC's Input Setup menu. If you don't see the option, then your display doesn't support it and the setup menu won't display it. On the other hand, my 8805 does show the Auto button, but it does absolutely nothing to the delay when used. You still have to enter any required delay manually. Personally, I prefer it the way that Emotiva is doing it. I'd rather not see a function that doesn't work rather than assume that it does and left wondering why it doesn't...
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Post by lwestfall on Jun 16, 2020 14:16:55 GMT -5
From my original post: I would just like to turn my system on and have it all ready to go without having to press power again (on the remote or the unit) after booting up to bring the RMC-1 out of standby mode. Go into the Menu and set the Standby Mode to: Video Remains On Make sure that the rear power switch is never turned off. Make sure that there is power going to the RMC-1 at all times. Or Go into the Menu and set the Standby Mode to: Lowest Power Make sure that the rear power switch is never turned off. Make sure that there is power going to the RMC-1 at all times. Both methods result with one press of the On button to turn on. If power is lost to the RMC-1, then it's a different ballgame. If power is lost, then restored, with Video Remains On the RMC-1 only needs one press of the On button to turn on once the initial power boot is performed after gaining electrical power. I always leave the RMC-1 rear power switch in the on position. I turn the power to my equipment on all at once. When I'm not using it I choose not to have any power going to it at all. The option I'm proposing would just give people like me the ability to skip a step (which has to be timed after the RMC-1 boot process is complete) between turning the power on and playing content.
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Post by bblv on Jun 16, 2020 14:25:27 GMT -5
Interesting.... I didn't realize the display device had to have that feature. It would make sense to use that over the lip sync delay setting in the Nvidia Shield to avoid these issues I guess, but regardless it's a bug in the RMC-1 firmware. There's no bug involved here... If your display supports HDMI Auto Lip-sync (and in-turn sends the required delay information downstream via EDID), then you will see the " Lip Sync Auto" checkbox in the XMC/RMC's Input Setup menu. If you don't see the option, then your display doesn't support it and the setup menu won't display it. On the other hand, my 8805 does show the Auto button, but it does absolutely nothing to the delay when used. You still have to enter any required delay manually. Personally, I prefer it the way that Emotiva is doing it. I'd rather not see a function that doesn't work rather than assume that it does and left wondering why it doesn't... The bug is the menu reporting that auto lip sync is not selected when in fact it is still delaying the audio. I have to reselect and deselect it again to have it turn off, regardless of what the OSD menu is showing.
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