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Post by JKCashin on Jun 12, 2020 17:37:45 GMT -5
I'd be up for a standalone unit, but let's face it... this would not be the purvey of Emotiva...
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Post by leonski on Jun 12, 2020 17:52:49 GMT -5
Absolutely Yes OR Absolutely NO  ? Bias meter makes FAR more sense especially with amps that claim reasonable amounts of class 'A' power. |
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Post by audiobill on Jun 12, 2020 17:57:36 GMT -5
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Post by JKCashin on Jun 12, 2020 17:58:29 GMT -5
Absolutely Yes OR Absolutely NO ? Bias meter makes FAR more sense especially with amps that claim reasonable amounts of class 'A' power. Now I know what it's like to deal with me... sigh. (brilliant) |
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Post by DavidR on Jun 12, 2020 18:56:15 GMT -5
When I got my SA-250 amps I really thought I would need/want/miss them.
I don't.
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Post by markscho on Jun 12, 2020 19:44:22 GMT -5
there is a Music App called Waves - with 60,000 music net feeds on AppleTV that has visual output to the screen - no Meters or Equalizers but cool graphics some hidden ones as well.
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Post by AudioHTIT on Jun 12, 2020 21:47:34 GMT -5
The problem is that these amps are upgradable to additional channels. So how does one adjust to that? I’d think one thing they could possibly do with the current ‘module’ based G3 amps, would be to create a clipping indicator where the blue light turns red. |
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Post by MusicHead on Jun 12, 2020 21:53:05 GMT -5
How about this?  linkyIt is even blue... If you run it in landscape mode it shows "Dual Mono" meters. Not super smooth, but you gotta appreciate the effort 🙂 |
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Post by leonski on Jun 12, 2020 22:21:10 GMT -5
Is the power meter switchable between SS and Tube sections? Also, in the photo I think I see a 20 amp service required. Good. Now you'll need an electrician for most of a day to install all the extra services you'll need. This amp would NEVER be in my system, even if I was a fan of the MC house sound. To make FULL USE of both 'halves' of the amp you'll need a crossover fairly high up.......right where it'll do the most harm, sonically..... |
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Post by ttocs on Jun 12, 2020 22:58:20 GMT -5
Is the power meter switchable between SS and Tube sections? Also, in the photo I think I see a 20 amp service required. Good. Now you'll need an electrician for most of a day to install all the extra services you'll need. This amp would NEVER be in my system, even if I was a fan of the MC house sound. To make FULL USE of both 'halves' of the amp you'll need a crossover fairly high up.......right where it'll do the most harm, sonically..... Some of us already have lots of dedicated, isolated ground, 20A circuits. edit: Looks like there are two needles for two scales so the meter is for both Tube and SS concurrently. |
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Post by rbk123 on Jun 12, 2020 23:42:32 GMT -5
Pretty gorgeous amps, just waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay up there on the price/performance exponential curve.
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Post by leonski on Jun 13, 2020 13:05:19 GMT -5
AH! Right you are. A double movement meter. I put on my Glasses!
Nothing much of interest to me, though. And while YOU have apparently enough circuits, most don't.
The guy running a pair of XPA-2 off a shared 15amp circuit or other abuse of insufficient power.
I'm personally thinking about high sensitivity speakers and less amp power. When this Pandemic
mostly blows over, I'm going to LA and a Klipsch Heritage dealer for a listen to the Forte III
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Post by megash0n on Jun 13, 2020 13:13:33 GMT -5
AH! Right you are. A double movement meter. I put on my Glasses! Nothing much of interest to me, though. And while YOU have apparently enough circuits, most don't. The guy running a pair of XPA-2 off a shared 15amp circuit or other abuse of insufficient power. I'm personally thinking about high sensitivity speakers and less amp power. When this Pandemic mostly blows over, I'm going to LA and a Klipsch Heritage dealer for a listen to the Forte III I keep forgetting that I have a dedicated 220 circuit in my closet that isn't being used at the moment. I need to tap into that to feed my amps. |
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Post by ttocs on Jun 13, 2020 14:04:03 GMT -5
AH! Right you are. A double movement meter. I put on my Glasses! Use your magnifier. |
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Post by leonski on Jun 13, 2020 14:47:49 GMT -5
AH! Right you are. A double movement meter. I put on my Glasses! Use your magnifier. I'll tell YOU that eyesight which is not as acute as it once was is a Piss-Off. Fortunately, my photography has not suffered since it is generally a compositional issue....... |
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Post by ttocs on Jun 13, 2020 15:43:39 GMT -5
I'll tell YOU that eyesight which is not as acute as it once was is a Piss-Off. Fortunately, my photography has not suffered since it is generally a compositional issue....... Composition is key, #1, and Claude would agree.  |
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Post by dragonV on Jun 20, 2020 10:49:10 GMT -5
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Post by ttocs on Jun 20, 2020 11:57:59 GMT -5
Here's the thing, not every meter is connected to the power output. The old Carver TFM amps connected the meters to the speaker outs, but there's a bunch that meter the input.
I came across a very simple clipping circuit that connects to the speaker outs and lights a LED with a hold-delay when full power is reached.
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Post by leonski on Jun 20, 2020 12:06:43 GMT -5
Here's the thing, not every meter is connected to the power output. The old Carver TFM amps connected the meters to the speaker outs, but there's a bunch that meter the input. I came across a very simple clipping circuit that connects to the speaker outs and lights a LED with a hold-delay when full power is reached. In OTHER words, no better than Eye-Candy. Best meter is still the Pass implimentation of the BIAS meter. Check out link for further info and why this may be the best meter IF you gotta have one! www.passlabs.com/technical_article/leaving-class-a/ |
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Post by ttocs on Jun 20, 2020 12:45:23 GMT -5
Here's the thing, not every meter is connected to the power output. The old Carver TFM amps connected the meters to the speaker outs, but there's a bunch that meter the input. I came across a very simple clipping circuit that connects to the speaker outs and lights a LED with a hold-delay when full power is reached. In OTHER words, no better than Eye-Candy. Best meter is still the Pass implimentation of the BIAS meter. Check out link for further info and why this may be the best meter IF you gotta have one! www.passlabs.com/technical_article/leaving-class-a/Yep! And you, Mr Leonski are the reason I ordered some of these to play with, gonna get me some learnin':  |
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