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Post by todd1010 on Oct 4, 2020 8:21:57 GMT -5
There’s were some beautiful amps.
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Post by mgbpuff on Oct 4, 2020 10:11:41 GMT -5
Dan's getting old; he can't lift them anymore.  |
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Post by Boomzilla on Oct 4, 2020 11:36:21 GMT -5
I agree, todd1010 - Many of us don't like the sound of the Gen. 3 models. The X-series is now taken over by the Class H supply designs. But if Emotiva wanted to bring back a limited-edition XPR-1 with conventional "heavy iron" transformer and mondo-microfarad capacitance power supply, there WOULD be a market for them. Just saying... Boomzilla |
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Post by stiehl11 on Oct 4, 2020 12:15:59 GMT -5
I agree, todd1010 - Many of us don't like the sound of the Gen. 3 models. The X-series is now taken over by the Class H supply designs. But if Emotiva wanted to bring back a limited-edition XPR-1 with conventional "heavy iron" transformer and mondo-microfarad capacitance power supply, there WOULD be a market for them. Just saying... Boomzilla The XPR series was Class H. |
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Post by mack71 on Oct 4, 2020 12:23:06 GMT -5
I agree, todd1010 - Many of us don't like the sound of the Gen. 3 models. The X-series is now taken over by the Class H supply designs. But if Emotiva wanted to bring back a limited-edition XPR-1 with conventional "heavy iron" transformer and mondo-microfarad capacitance power supply, there WOULD be a market for them. Just saying... Boomzilla with good components that would enhance resolution and give a clean signature plus a power display, ... at a price of up to $ 5,000 a pair would be a killer ,....but IMHO Dr1 sounds better than Xpr 1  |
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Post by novisnick on Oct 4, 2020 12:55:52 GMT -5
I most definitely believe that the XPR line of amps should return. I’ve owned many amps including a XPA DR-2 AAND THE SQ, depth of bass and sheer Beauty of these amps are beyond comparison, in their price range! Give or take $1K
This may be a biased testimonial as I do own a set of XPR-1’s. Show me a prettier amp, without glowing meters! I’ll wait. 🤔
Theres a thought, add glowing meters to these amps and Emotiva wont be able to fill all the orders for them.
Add it up,
Tons of quick responsive power
Beauty near perfect
Heavy metal of old world dependability
Price point that most serious music lovers can afford
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Post by leonski on Oct 4, 2020 13:00:05 GMT -5
Dan's getting old; he can't lift them anymore. NOBODY can lift them any more...or hadn't you noticed? Shipping is a BEAR and 'fails' all too frequent. Even here, in one post, it was shown that an amp was packed very poorly for return and was essentially Trashed. No, from a simple shipping / weight standpoint, going to a switcher was a good move. That? And MOST people wildly overestimate the power needed......than don't run the needed dedicated power to actually REALIZE such power goals.... The modular approach while not original, is also a decent cost containment idea. and THAT'S the big enemy. COST......because most here won't go for the 'high priced spread' almost no matter what...... |
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Post by mack71 on Oct 4, 2020 13:22:15 GMT -5
Dan's getting old; he can't lift them anymore. NOBODY can lift them any more...or hadn't you noticed? Shipping is a BEAR and 'fails' all too frequent. Even here, in one post, it was shown that an amp was packed very poorly for return and was essentially Trashed. No, from a simple shipping / weight standpoint, going to a switcher was a good move. That? And MOST people wildly overestimate the power needed......than don't run the needed dedicated power to actually REALIZE such power goals.... The modular approach while not original, is also a decent cost containment idea. and THAT'S the big enemy. COST......because most here won't go for the 'high priced spread' almost no matter what...... I think that solid packaging is not a big cost, I had a Mcintosch mc 452, I have a Hegle H30 and they weigh the same as the Xpr 1, the packaging is inexpensive and solid (a bit thicker cardboard and stronger, well-wrapping foam -hard polyurethane ).... and only on the pallet. |
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Post by novisnick on Oct 4, 2020 13:38:52 GMT -5
NOBODY can lift them any more...or hadn't you noticed? Shipping is a BEAR and 'fails' all too frequent. Even here, in one post, it was shown that an amp was packed very poorly for return and was essentially Trashed. No, from a simple shipping / weight standpoint, going to a switcher was a good move. That? And MOST people wildly overestimate the power needed......than don't run the needed dedicated power to actually REALIZE such power goals.... The modular approach while not original, is also a decent cost containment idea. and THAT'S the big enemy. COST......because most here won't go for the 'high priced spread' almost no matter what...... I think that solid packaging is not a big cost, I had a Mcintosch mc 452, I have a Hegle H30 and they weigh the same as the Xpr 1, the packaging is inexpensive and solid (a bit thicker cardboard and stronger, well-wrapping foam -hard polyurethane ) I agree with mack71 , the mistake Emotiva made with the XPR series is that they treated the shipping container as a standard box and foam. Packaging science has come a very long way and these amps could be shipped without problems at a nominal fee. I have delicate products shipped across the country weekly with minimal cost and loss, theres no reason why these amps can’t be packaged to survive the same. Yes, these amps are heavy but its not like we move them often in our home. We set them and enjoy them. (I was going to say “forget them”, but how can you forget the lovely sound they make?) |
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Post by mack71 on Oct 4, 2020 13:44:18 GMT -5
I most definitely believe that the XPR line of amps should return. I’ve owned many amps including a XPA DR-2 AAND THE SQ, depth of bass and sheer Beauty of these amps are beyond comparison, in their price range! Give or take $1K This may be a biased testimonial as I do own a set of XPR-1’s. Show me a prettier amp, without glowing meters! I’ll wait. 🤔 Theres a thought, add glowing meters to these amps and Emotiva wont be able to fill all the orders for them. Add it up, Tons of quick responsive power Beauty near perfect Heavy metal of old world dependability Price point that most serious music lovers can afford the problem was that apart from the solid bass the Xpr lacked finesse and resolution ... I had it for two years and compared to others. But it's a fact that in terms of price it was very attractive ... but what counts in the end is the sound quality for which it is worth paying more... |
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Post by teaman on Oct 4, 2020 13:47:00 GMT -5
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Post by mack71 on Oct 4, 2020 13:47:23 GMT -5
I think that solid packaging is not a big cost, I had a Mcintosch mc 452, I have a Hegle H30 and they weigh the same as the Xpr 1, the packaging is inexpensive and solid (a bit thicker cardboard and stronger, well-wrapping foam -hard polyurethane ) I agree with mack71 , the mistake Emotiva made with the XPR series is that they treated the shipping container as a standard box and foam. Packaging science has come a very long way and these amps could be shipped without problems at a nominal fee. I have delicate products shipped across the country weekly with minimal cost and loss, theres no reason why these amps can’t be packaged to survive the same. Yes, these amps are heavy but its not like we move them often in our home. We set them and enjoy them. (I was going to say “forget them”, but how can you forget the lovely sound they make?) Generally, I have the impression that Emotiva is more focused on home cinema and a wider, much cheaper market, ... they let go of the Stereo competition, ... it's a pity |
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Post by novisnick on Oct 4, 2020 13:49:39 GMT -5
I most definitely believe that the XPR line of amps should return. I’ve owned many amps including a XPA DR-2 AAND THE SQ, depth of bass and sheer Beauty of these amps are beyond comparison, in their price range! Give or take $1K This may be a biased testimonial as I do own a set of XPR-1’s. Show me a prettier amp, without glowing meters! I’ll wait. 🤔 Theres a thought, add glowing meters to these amps and Emotiva wont be able to fill all the orders for them. Add it up, Tons of quick responsive power Beauty near perfect Heavy metal of old world dependability Price point that most serious music lovers can afford the problem was that apart from the solid bass the Xpr lacked finesse and resolution ... I had it for two years and compared to others. But it's a fact that in terms of price it was very attractive ... but what counts in the end is the sound quality for which it is worth paying more... I have heard that but I’ve concluded that its speaker dependent. Edit; sometimes its also “ear” dependent. 🤔😁 |
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Post by mack71 on Oct 4, 2020 13:53:26 GMT -5
I agree with mack71 , the mistake Emotiva made with the XPR series is that they treated the shipping container as a standard box and foam. Packaging science has come a very long way and these amps could be shipped without problems at a nominal fee. I have delicate products shipped across the country weekly with minimal cost and loss, theres no reason why these amps can’t be packaged to survive the same. Yes, these amps are heavy but its not like we move them often in our home. We set them and enjoy them. (I was going to say “forget them”, but how can you forget the lovely sound they make?) Generally, I have the impression that Emotiva is more focused on home cinema and a wider, much cheaper market, ... they let go of the Stereo competition, ... it's a pity A friend of mine recently sells my XPr 1 - there are very few of them in Europe and this is an opportunity : m.olx.pl/oferta/emotiva-xpr-1-CID99-IDGbPnt.html |
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Post by mack71 on Oct 4, 2020 13:56:55 GMT -5
the problem was that apart from the solid bass the Xpr lacked finesse and resolution ... I had it for two years and compared to others. But it's a fact that in terms of price it was very attractive ... but what counts in the end is the sound quality for which it is worth paying more... I have heard that but I’ve concluded that its speaker dependent. Edit; sometimes its also “ear” dependent. 🤔😁 I'm sure you're right, everyone has different equipment, hearing and taste, ... but when you compare directly, you can't help but hear some things |
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Post by novisnick on Oct 4, 2020 14:00:50 GMT -5
I agree with mack71 , the mistake Emotiva made with the XPR series is that they treated the shipping container as a standard box and foam. Packaging science has come a very long way and these amps could be shipped without problems at a nominal fee. I have delicate products shipped across the country weekly with minimal cost and loss, theres no reason why these amps can’t be packaged to survive the same. Yes, these amps are heavy but its not like we move them often in our home. We set them and enjoy them. (I was going to say “forget them”, but how can you forget the lovely sound they make?) Generally, I have the impression that Emotiva is more focused on home cinema and a wider, much cheaper market, ... they let go of the Stereo competition, ... it's a pity Unfortunately, thats what pays the daily bills. I believe they have the talent but not the pockets to pursue that market at this time. Perhaps someday they’ll get back to it. Maybe I’m wrong but the high end market is flooded with poor examples of high-end just so they can charge high prices, Emotiva doesn’t do that IMHO. That may be why the DC-2 hasn’t come to market, too high a price point and too many products to compete with. |
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Post by novisnick on Oct 4, 2020 14:13:09 GMT -5
Generally, I have the impression that Emotiva is more focused on home cinema and a wider, much cheaper market, ... they let go of the Stereo competition, ... it's a pity A friend of mine recently sells my XPr 1 - there are very few of them in Europe and this is an opportunity : m.olx.pl/oferta/emotiva-xpr-1-CID99-IDGbPnt.htmlWhere is this and what was their asking price. Its all “Greek” to me! LOL Swedish ? |
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Post by audiophill on Oct 4, 2020 14:29:36 GMT -5
I have three XPR-1's and two XPR-5's for my RMC-1 and I can't imagine anything better. When i show off my system to anyone they cant believe how epic it sounds. It would take a lot of money for me to part with them that's for sure!
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Post by mack71 on Oct 4, 2020 14:34:49 GMT -5
Where is this and what was their asking price. Its all “Greek” to me! LOL Swedish ? Poland,... offer is still valid ... for about $ 3500, ... I think that for $ 3000 he will sell it. I paid $ 2,000 from the first owner and the additional fees amounted to $ 1,000 (a total of $ 3,000), ... after two years I sold for almost $ 4,500, ... so Mariusz will lose a little, but he thinks he doesn't need such large amplifiers. |
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Post by audiophill on Oct 4, 2020 14:45:59 GMT -5
Wow people willing to spend that much? Ok here is a offer to sell my 3 XPR-1s and 2 XPR-5s all 5 XPR amps picked up in Rhode Island for $10,000. That's one XPR-1 each for the front 3 channels LCR fully balanced and the 2 XPR 5s for the surrounds and height channels.
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