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Post by audiobill on Dec 12, 2020 7:20:46 GMT -5
"Short term I have been contemplating putting Roon on a NUC and connecting to my Cambridge CXN streamer/DAC"
Yes, this is all you need to do. And you don't need the streamer to do it; any dac will do.
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Post by megash0n on Dec 12, 2020 7:48:41 GMT -5
I had one (Oppo UDP-205); FedEx lost it. Why won't I consider the Emotiva CD player? It has no Ethernet port and can't be seen from the network. No streaming? No sale! (and a MAJOR disappointment). IMHO, Emotiva has not only lost their leadership of the "reasonably-priced high-end stereo" market slice, but they no longer even compete there. Why? They've tried to become an internet AV company, and in spending all their resources toward that goal, they've abandoned stereo. Now the above statement is certain to bring the Emo-fanboys out of the woodwork telling me how wrong I am, but others' opinions won't sway me. The facts are on my side. No XSP-1 replacement? No Stealth DC-1 replacement? And what about the BIG hole in Emotiva's line - a streamer? Generation 3 X-series amps? Really? Yes, the BasX line kicks booty at the economy end of the stereo range, but it's no substitute for abandoning stereo components that could compete head to head with Parasound, Rotel, Anthem, and Musical Fidelity - to name but a few. And Emotiva DOES deserve kudos for their Airmotiv speaker line, but the "reasonably-priced, high-end electronics" sector is completely missing. Maybe some new Emotiva products will come along soon that change my mind? I hope so. Boomzilla I listened to the latest podcast and it appears that new products are in the works with likely 2021 release. Unfortunately Dan will not discuss what due to past heavy criticism on timeframe. I’m sure there will be more X series 2 channel products coming including the XSP-2. Very likely a lot of new product while existing product is unfinished. Sounds about right. |
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Post by Boomzilla on Dec 12, 2020 8:05:23 GMT -5
"Short term I have been contemplating putting Roon on a NUC and connecting to my Cambridge CXN streamer/DAC" Yes, this is all you need to do. And you don't need the streamer to do it; any dac will do. Any DAC'll do ya? LOL |
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Post by audiobill on Dec 12, 2020 8:12:24 GMT -5
Ha!
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Post by foggy1956 on Dec 12, 2020 8:35:47 GMT -5
I listened to the latest podcast and it appears that new products are in the works with likely 2021 release. Unfortunately Dan will not discuss what due to past heavy criticism on timeframe. I’m sure there will be more X series 2 channel products coming including the XSP-2. Very likely a lot of new product while existing product is unfinished. Sounds about right. Sounds like they're well stocked with coffee mugs and t-shirts. |
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Post by brutiarti on Dec 12, 2020 10:20:36 GMT -5
Boom. It really seems like you’re requirements can be solved by a good compact disc player. Emotiva makes an excellent one. 😃 I had one (Oppo UDP-205); FedEx lost it. Why won't I consider the Emotiva CD player? It has no Ethernet port and can't be seen from the network. No streaming? No sale! (and a MAJOR disappointment). IMHO, Emotiva has not only lost their leadership of the "reasonably-priced high-end stereo" market slice, but they no longer even compete there. Why? They've tried to become an internet AV company, and in spending all their resources toward that goal, they've abandoned stereo. Now the above statement is certain to bring the Emo-fanboys out of the woodwork telling me how wrong I am, but others' opinions won't sway me. The facts are on my side. No XSP-1 replacement? No Stealth DC-1 replacement? And what about the BIG hole in Emotiva's line - a streamer? Generation 3 X-series amps? Really? Yes, the BasX line kicks booty at the economy end of the stereo range, but it's no substitute for abandoning stereo components that could compete head to head with Parasound, Rotel, Anthem, and Musical Fidelity - to name but a few. And Emotiva DOES deserve kudos for their Airmotiv speaker line, but the "reasonably-priced, high-end electronics" sector is completely missing. Maybe some new Emotiva products will come along soon that change my mind? I hope so. Boomzilla The people at Schiit audio opened a bottle of champagne when they heard that Emotiva will jump into the AV market. 😂 |
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Post by klinemj on Dec 12, 2020 12:54:49 GMT -5
"Short term I have been contemplating putting Roon on a NUC and connecting to my Cambridge CXN streamer/DAC" Yes, this is all you need to do. And you don't need the streamer to do it; any dac will do. Any DAC'll do ya? LOL Yeah - but will a dab of dac do ya? Mark |
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Post by DYohn on Dec 12, 2020 14:26:16 GMT -5
Speaking of Schiit Audio, when I met Mike Moffat several years ago at a headphone show in LA he was wearing a t-shirt reading, "Ask Me About My Big DAC"
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Post by audiobill on Dec 12, 2020 15:28:16 GMT -5
Yeah - but will a dab of dac do ya? Mark Yabba dabba do! |
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Post by tchaik on Dec 12, 2020 19:05:43 GMT -5
Yeah - but will a dab of dac do ya? Mark whatta bout a ya ba dab a doo ya......... |
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Post by Boomzilla on Dec 13, 2020 13:53:18 GMT -5
Well, I got one of these from Amazon in hopes that Roon could see either the DAC or the USB HDD over Ethernet - No go: www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00M7MYFAU/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1My new Yamaha Blu-Ray player isn't seen by Room either. So even if I move my data drive and Roon Core to a Mac in the computer room, I can't get to any endpoint in the listening room (they're all USB, and the only wire from the computer room to the listening room is Ethernet). Options: Buy a Streamer/DAC with a Roon-compatible Ethernet connection (expensive) Replace my new Yamaha Blu-Ray player with another that has Ethernet streaming capabilities (wasteful and expensive) Add an inexpensive widget in the listening room that has Roon-compatible Ethernet in and USB out (a Roku, maybe) Ideally, I want a sub $50 solution. Any ideas? Thanks - Boomzilla |
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Post by DYohn on Dec 13, 2020 15:03:11 GMT -5
Boom, that is a USB hub designed to add Ethernet connectivity via USB to a computer. What did you expect it to do for you? Also, how are you expecting Roon to "see" a BRD player? Roon is not intended to connect to a disc player.... unless it is also a Roon-Ready endpoint.
Without having to try and interpret your intention from this entire thread, please describe the functionality you seek and maybe I can help you.
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Post by klinemj on Dec 13, 2020 15:03:26 GMT -5
Boomzilla - I have an Oppo 105 I'll sell you, but it would be more than $50. Short of that - maybe it's time to try a Pi. Mark
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Post by jra on Dec 13, 2020 17:00:18 GMT -5
Hi jra - THANK YOU for your generous assistance! It's appreciated. The model # is: CG3000DV2 "Netgear Wireless Cable DOCSIS gateway" CFCGC6 (SSID for wireless - that I don't use) SN: 3HW138U20128C I'm trying to mount the drive via Roon-OS (a Linux variant). But Mac OS-X should use similar if not identical path nomenclature? OK, that version ("Netgear Wireless Cable DOCSIS gateway" - CG3000DV2) does have Samba installed. Not sure of the version as it's not listed. You can confirm this from the manual here: www.downloads.netgear.com/files/GDC/CG3000DV2/N450_CG3000Dv2_UM_03Apr2014.pdfpages 75/76, advanced settings : "Access a USB Device on the Network" It describes exporting the usb drive using the SMB syntax: smb://192.168.0.5 As this manual dates from 2014 it's probably SMB1-only. You can confirm this from a basic Linux client with Samba installed by doing (from a command line): smbclient -L //IP.ADDRESS.OF.ROUTER (replace IP.ADDRESS.OF.ROUTER with the IPv4 address of the router, obviously). Can you do that and get back to me on what that reports ? |
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Post by jra on Dec 13, 2020 17:01:47 GMT -5
FYI, if you want to contact me directly about making this work you can email me at either jra@samba.org or jra@google.com as I don't always see thread update notifications from this forum (don't know why).
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Post by Boomzilla on Dec 13, 2020 21:31:36 GMT -5
...Without having to try and interpret your intention from this entire thread, please describe the functionality you seek and maybe I can help you. Thanks, David - What I'm trying to do has been changing based on what I'm able to do. Without delving into the history, here's what I"m trying to do now: I have a Mac mini in the computer room. I can hook my Roon Library drive to that Mini and also run my Roon Core from the Mac. I can connect my Roon Remote on iPad to the Mini via wireless. So far so good. An Ethernet cable exists between the computer room and the living room. The music system is in the living room. But I have no endpoint there. All of my existing DACs are USB, and none of them will accept Ethernet RAAT streaming. So I need one of several options in the living room: A small, cheap streamer that has both Ethernet and USB-A. It would need to be Roon RAAT compatible and Roon would have to be able to "see" the USB DAC on the device as an endpoint. A more elaborate device (Blu-Ray player or integrated amp) that contains BOTH the Ethernet streamer and an internal DAC (my Oppo used to have both these capabilities until FedEx stole it). For the moment, minimal cost is one of my paramount considerations (long story), but later, something better is feasible. Boomzilla |
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Post by DYohn on Dec 13, 2020 23:29:54 GMT -5
Yes you need a Roon Ready endpoint player. Without doing the DIY thing the least expensive one I know is the Bluesound Node or Elac Discovery Connect, and thos are $500 or so. I assume you no longer have the Nucleus?
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Post by Boomzilla on Dec 13, 2020 23:48:35 GMT -5
Yes you need a Roon Ready endpoint player. Without doing the DIY thing the least expensive one I know is the Bluesound Node or Elac Discovery Connect, and thos are $500 or so. I assume you no longer have the Nucleus? The nucleus is still here (and as of the moment, I'm using it as my Roon Core with both the Library drive and a USB DAC plugged directly into the nucleus). But, very soon when this review is done, the nucleus will have to go back to Roon Labs. At that point the cheapest solution is to move the Mac mini, the data drive, and the DAC all back to the living room. But if I do that, I lose the functionality of the mini as a business computer (my bigger issue) - and I end up with all the original clutter back on the living room equipment rack (a minor, but still irritating issue). I'm not opposed to a DIY endpoint. What savings are available there? Boom |
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Post by LuisV on Dec 13, 2020 23:53:21 GMT -5
Leave the Mac mini where it is and place a Raspberry Pi in the living room. You need the Pi, a memory card and Ropieee... this would be your cheapest Roon endpoint. ropieee.org/ |
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Post by audiobill on Dec 14, 2020 6:34:08 GMT -5
As Luis said, or take a quick look at the Bluesound Node 2i as an endpoint at the equipment end - many like them.
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