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Post by DavidR on Nov 27, 2021 21:32:55 GMT -5
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Post by DavidR on Nov 28, 2021 9:59:27 GMT -5
probably their most profound song
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Post by AudioHTIT on Nov 28, 2021 10:54:12 GMT -5
Off the beaten path a bit. I found the “Love” soundtrack created by George and Giles Martin very enjoyable, though while I also have liked quite a few Cirque du Soleil shows, and certainly love the Beatles, I was not a fan of the Love production in Las Vegas. The soundtrack is really all you need.
I think this mashup of Lennon’s brilliant “Tomorrow Never Knows” and Harrison’s mystic “Within You Without You” is particularly good.
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Post by AudioHTIT on Nov 28, 2021 11:01:30 GMT -5
… but nothing beats the original
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Post by jbrunwa on Nov 28, 2021 13:19:04 GMT -5
We just watched Get Back Part 1 on Disney+. This documentary series by Peter Jackson really gives insight into the Beatles coming together and coming apart song writing under time pressure and all the interpersonal dynamics as captured on film. youtu.be/UocEGvQ10OE
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Post by AudioHTIT on Nov 28, 2021 21:14:07 GMT -5
We just watched Get Back Part 1 on Disney+. This documentary series by Peter Jackson really gives insight into the Beatles coming together and coming apart song writing under time pressure and all the interpersonal dynamics as captured on film. youtu.be/UocEGvQ10OEI’ve assumed that’s what inspired DavidR to start this thread, we’re just finishing part 2. … Paul speaking to George Martin about the Rickenbacker bass as they try to find a better tone … “I don’t really know what all those knobs do” 🤷♂️
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Post by DavidR on Nov 29, 2021 11:36:51 GMT -5
RIP George Harrison MBE (25 February 1943 – 29 November 2001) was an English musician, singer-songwriter, and music and film producer who achieved international fame as the lead guitarist of the Beatles. Sometimes called "the quiet Beatle".
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Post by AudioHTIT on Nov 29, 2021 15:06:37 GMT -5
“Twenty years ago today” 🙁 George was a wonderful musician, songwriter, person, and Beatle — I miss him dearly. If you’ll indulge me, this is probably a good place for a Beatles anecdote. My dad sold steel in the Southern California South Bay Area, in the 1960’s that was a center for the Aerospace industry and he had plenty of business and high profile customers. His company would often buy a box for the summer concert series at the Hollywood Bowl, and the salesmen (the title of the day), would take customers out for dinner and a concert (typically classical, or pop orchestras). One concert he couldn’t find a customer interested in was Ravi Shankar; so he, my mom, younger brother, and I went. I had become aware of Ravi and Indian music because of George’s interest and it’s influence on the Beatles' music. The boxes were big enough for about four people and were separated by short wooden ‘fences’ just tall enough to rest your arm on while seated. Our box was literally front row and the stage centerline went through the fence under my right arm, the famous ‘reflecting pool was right in front of us, but covered for this performance so the artists could get closer to the audience, a large poster bed like structure sat on the very edge of the actual stage (the musicians played upon this). It was a warm August night in the summer of 1967. We arrived early and had a picnic dinner while we waited, at one point just before the show started an usher leaned down behind me and said “look who’s coming”, I turned around and saw George Harrison walking right toward our box! I was stunned as he entered the box next to us and took the seat on the other side of the little fence, we literally “brushed elbows” as he got comfortable. I tried to be ‘cool’ and respect his privacy, but I looked over and he gave me a smile and a nod just as the lights went down. Playing during the 1st set were a few master Indian musicians on various Instruments other than the Sitar. On the covered pool area quite a few people sat cross legged listening to the music (we later learned they were students at Ravi Shankar’s school in LA). Though the music was unusual it was still easy to appreciate the musicianship of these incredible performers. One musician was Ali Akbar Khan who played the Sarod (a stringed, lute type instrument with a skin like a banjo), he went off like a guitarist ripping an incredible solo, and took the song to a crescendo after which it dropped back to the drones af the tambura. I turned to George (probably with my mouth open) and we shared a ‘whoa’ moment in appreciation of the amazing playing. As the set went on I tried to figure out what to say or do during the intermission, the best I could think of was to try and get his autograph (I was 15). I turned to my dad and made a hand gesture like I was writing, he got it and ever the ready salesman got out a pen and little notepad. However, my hopes were dashed, as soon as the lights came up for intermission George stood up and quickly disappeared. When the second set began with Ravi Shankar on Sitar and the also great Alla Rakah on Tabla (drums played with your hands), I noticed George had taken a spot on the covered pool area with the other students. I knew he wouldn’t be back but I still sat excited at both the music, and being in the company of a Beatle. Shankar and Rakah put on an amazing display of musical mastery, the crowd’s American ears were impressed and appreciative throughout the night, respectfully waiting until the end of a Raga to show loud appreciation. My friends and bandmates were quite excited and jealous to hear of my night. My already great love of Beatles’ music was heightened even more, especially the recently released “Sgt Pepper’s Lonely Hearts Club Band”, and “Within You Without You”. George’s other songs took on new meaning, and I tried harder to learn them on guitar (I now play a pretty good “Handle With Care”). Sorry this got so long, I’ve never tried to document that wonderful night so completely, but “Get Back” and now 20 years without George makes one remember how important the Beatles were in our lives. Thanks for reading. Edit: I found an old photo of the Bowl back at that time (actually from the Monkees’ archive!). I’ve painstakingly edited it to show mine and George’s location (I just wish I could remember the secret handshake we taught each other 😉) Edit 2: Very unlike me to forget the lovely Pattie Boyd accompanied George that evening (though I now remember her coming in and sitting next to him). I did some searching and found this. truthaboutthebeatlesgirls.tumblr.com/post/27153391131/hollywood-bowl-august-4-1967-george-and-pattie/ampThen I found this link that has actual recordings of the concert! (most of my memories were pretty good -- the Ali Akbar Khan moment starts about 1:35 into the 1st set). If you try to listen to this after the intro, bring some patience and open minded listening. pastdaily.com/2015/06/14/ravi-shankar-festival-of-indian-music-at-the-hollywood-bowl-1967-past-daily-weekend-gallimaufry/Ha! More context from those watching "Get Back": "George Harrison, his wife Pattie, Neil Aspinall and Alexis "Magic Alex" Mardas went to see Ravi Shankar perform at the Hollywood Bowl in Los Angeles. www.beatlesradio.com/the-beatles-50-years-ago-today-august-4-1967... and more
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Post by DavidR on Nov 30, 2021 14:17:11 GMT -5
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Post by AudioHTIT on Nov 30, 2021 18:28:01 GMT -5
Hadn't seen the Eddie Murphy rant before 🙂 Nor have I considered any of the 'former members' "5th Beatles", I'd only thought of George Martin, Brian Epstein, and Billy Preston as in the running, or 'one of the 5th Beatles'. Personally George Martin has been my choice due to his strong influence on their album sound and instrumentation, but who's to argue with Paul. Maybe you can add a Poll to this thread! 😁 Oh, but maybe we need to include Bernard Purdie 🥁 😵💫 www.beatlesbible.com/forum/ringo-starr/bernard-purdie-played-drums-on-beatles-recordings/
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Post by DavidR on Nov 30, 2021 19:43:15 GMT -5
Hadn't seen the Eddie Murphy rant before 🙂 Nor have I considered any of the 'former members' "5th Beatles", I'd only thought of George Martin, Brian Epstein, and Billy Preston as in the running, or 'one of the 5th Beatles'. Personally George Martin has been my choice due to his strong influence on their album sound and instrumentation, but who's to argue with Paul. Maybe you can add a Poll to this thread! 😁 Oh, but maybe we need to include Bernard Purdie 🥁 😵💫 www.beatlesbible.com/forum/ringo-starr/bernard-purdie-played-drums-on-beatles-recordings/I'll go with Billy Preston but I certainly understand Martin.
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Post by Zombie on Nov 30, 2021 20:55:16 GMT -5
I just finished watching the three episodes of season one. I really enjoyed it although I think it might be.a tad boring for those not totally into The Beatles or into music in general. The video quality is surprisingly good and the audio acceptable (IMO) considering the age. Paul, George and Ringo's significant others (Linda, Pattie and Maureen respectively) were there occasionally, I found it interesting that Yoko was there all the time. Most of the time she looked bored and acted like she'd rather be somewhere else. I saw her more than George Martin so maybe she's the 5th Beatle, lol.
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Post by DavidR on Nov 30, 2021 21:17:43 GMT -5
I just finished watching the three episodes of season one. I really enjoyed it although I think it might be.a tad boring for those not totally into The Beatles or into music in general. The video quality is surprisingly good and the audio acceptable (IMO) considering the age. Paul, George and Ringo's significant others (Linda, Pattie and Maureen respectively) were there occasionally, I found it interesting that Yoko was there all the time. Most of the time she looked bored and acted like she'd rather be somewhere else. I saw her more than George Martin so maybe she's the 5th Beatle, lol. I have always felt she was responsible for the discord that emerged in the group and the eventual break up of the band.
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Post by AudioHTIT on Nov 30, 2021 22:26:25 GMT -5
[semi-spoiler-alert] Documentary discussion, and if anyone hasn’t seen it yet … The Beatles still break up 🙁 I'll go with Billy Preston but I certainly understand Martin. Billy’s a strong contender for sure, it was interesting how he just wandered into the rehearsal and took his place so naturally, great to see him playing the parts you never thought much about. He stayed around too, saw him playing with George and even doing his own set during George’s “Dark Horse” tour. I just finished watching the three episodes of season one. I really enjoyed it although I think it might be.a tad boring for those not totally into The Beatles or into music in general. The video quality is surprisingly good and the audio acceptable (IMO) considering the age. Paul, George and Ringo's significant others (Linda, Pattie and Maureen respectively) were there occasionally, I found it interesting that Yoko was there all the time. Most of the time she looked bored and acted like she'd rather be somewhere else. I saw her more than George Martin so maybe she's the 5th Beatle, lol. Agree with your assessment, a lot of great footage, some of it very frustrating and even painful, but lots of insights too, and ultimately very enjoyable and satisfying. I have always felt she was responsible for the discord that emerged in the group and the eventual break up of the band. After watching the documentary I felt less that Yoko was the problem. If you want to point a finger at her, I think it was John’s responsibility to leave her at home. I think he became insecure at how forceful Paul was becoming (as opposed to John’s dominance in the early years), and needed someone in his corner. Certainly her presence kept the band from bonding the way they should have, but I blame John for that. Also it was a revelation how frustrated George was at not getting to contribute more material, and how much of ”All Things Must Pass” came out during this time. The loss of Brian Epstein was probably more significant than I had realized. I really gained a lot of respect for Ringo, always showed up on time, always ready to work, just put up with hours of sh!t from the other guys. Watching them play at the end was awesome, you’d think that would have given them new life.
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Post by DavidR on Nov 30, 2021 22:58:25 GMT -5
[semi-spoiler-alert] Documentary discussion, and if anyone hasn’t seen it yet … The Beatles still break up 🙁 I have always felt she was responsible for the discord that emerged in the group and the eventual break up of the band. After watching the documentary I felt less that Yoko was the problem. If you want to point a finger at her, I think it was John’s responsibility to leave her at home. I think he became insecure at how forceful Paul was becoming (as opposed to John’s dominance in the early years), and needed someone in his corner. Certainly her presence kept the band from bonding the way they should have, but I blame John for that. Also it was a revelation how frustrated George was at not getting to contribute more material, and how much of ”All Things Must Pass” came out during this time. The loss of Brian Epstein was probably more significant than I had realized. I really gained a lot of respect for Ringo, always showed up on time, always ready to work, just put up with hours of sh!t from the other guys. Watching them play at the end was awesome, you’d think that would have given them new life. We don't get Disney+ so I've been unable to view the documentary except for the couple of videos on YT.
I know exactly what you mean about Paul. I always saw him as a bit of an ass. Certainly talented but big headed. John had some demons for sure (sadly).
George was treated like the little brother. His first album(s) would have done better if not released all at once/together. That went for a lot of cash back then.
Ringo was/is the perfect drummer for the Beatles music. Can you imagine Kieth Moon. One of the Beatles joked that Ringo wasn't even the best drummer in the Beatles. I think it was John.
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Post by DavidR on Dec 1, 2021 19:02:38 GMT -5
One of my fav Beatles moment. Thought it was so cool.
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Post by Zombie on Dec 1, 2021 19:24:57 GMT -5
I also really enjoyed the rooftop concert. Pretty funny when eventually the local police officers made it to the roof. The reaction Paul had when he turned around and saw them was priceless.
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Post by klinemj on Dec 2, 2021 8:53:03 GMT -5
I've been a Beatles fan since I was 5. I still have my original copy of Sgt. Pepper in vinyl, of course. My cousin bought it when it first came out, but upon hearing it - his Mom would not let him keep it so he gave it to me. I played it over and over, and it was well worn out by the time I went to college. I found a high quality pressing and bought that, and I played it a lot (but kept it in perfect shape). I have at least 1 if not 2 CD copies (original one and remaster). So, of course I watched Get Back in full. I loved it. Seeing their creative process at work was amazing. I also loved seeing their personalities come out as they interacted. There's no doubt Paul was in the lead at that point with strong collaboration with John. And, as AudioHTIT notes, Ringo's work ethic was just solid. George was indeed, to his detriment, the silent Beatle. I did find it interesting how John and Paul would come in with nuggets of ideas that were very incomplete and the band would just keep hammering it out until they got something. This was never more evident than in the scene George came in one morning and said "I wrote this last night" and say down and played a fairly polished and complete "I me mine". Very different approach to that of John and Paul. The comedic banter was great - esp. the parts with them reading in a silly newsman voice articles about their internal issues. And Billy Preston's abilities to just come in and sound perfect were impressive. The rooftop scenes were both amazing (for what they had accomplished in a matter of weeks, honing ideas into songs that were so well played) and heartbreaking. Knowing that this band that could accomplish such great things together was breaking up soon made those scenes very bittersweet. I actually choked up a bit watching it. Re. Yoko's role...clearly, she played a role and Paul and Ringo talked about it in the scene in which neither John nor George showed up. I found it ironic that Paul said what he said, yet sitting right next to him was Linda. It was a "pot calling the kettle black" moment. But, I took away 2 other really important points. George wanted/needed more control/input that he was not going to get with the group - so going solo was an obvious step to come. And Paul had a longing for the road and playing live that the others didn't share as strongly. He certainly did that as he went solo. Get Back came out at the perfect time. My wife has been out of town for 5 weeks (working costumes and wardrobe backstage for the Broadway Series production of Pretty Woman - so if you saw the show in Cincy, Detroit, St. Louis, or this week Buffalo - she was backstage!). So, I got to watch it straight through on my own without her asking me to watch something else with her! I told her "you likely would not like much of it, but I loved it". She said "yeah...probably good I was not there" Mark
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Post by AudioHTIT on Dec 5, 2021 23:34:59 GMT -5
I've been a Beatles fan since I was 5. I still have my original copy of Sgt. Pepper in vinyl, of course. My cousin bought it when it first came out, but upon hearing it - his Mom would not let him keep it so he gave it to me. I played it over and over, and it was well worn out by the time I went to college. I found a high quality pressing and bought that, and I played it a lot (but kept it in perfect shape). I have at least 1 if not 2 CD copies (original one and remaster)… Sgt Pepper is an exceptional album, and whether you think it’s their best (I do, but know many prefer “Rubber Soul”, “Revolver”, or others), it was groundbreaking in concept, recording techniques, and its reflection of the times. I too have my original SPLHCB vinyl, another given by a friend, and the original and remastered CD. Then on the 50th anniversary I was lucky enough to hear the Atmos remix, described here: emotivalounge.proboards.com/thread/52909/50-years-ago-today-plusThough I don’t normally go for anniversary box sets, this one drew me in. The packaging is great, a fancy ‘wiggle picture’ sleeve covering a simile of the original tape box, which holds a book, original album insets and an LP sleeve that holds the various CDs, Blu-ray Audio 5.1, & DVD-A.
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Post by DavidR on Dec 6, 2021 7:27:06 GMT -5
I have one of these vinyls. The sound is horrible.
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