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Post by Nemesis.ie on Dec 16, 2009 13:55:46 GMT -5
Hi all, The Ninja is still awaiting 6.3 schematics (I am sure Emotiva are very busy). I thought I would start this thread to discuss these crossovers (as opposed to just for the 6.2s) and I will open a poll for interest on the chance we can get a group-buy deal or something.  |
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Post by springwright on Dec 16, 2009 23:04:01 GMT -5
I just head a pair of ELT's with this upgrade. VERY NICE.
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Post by Nemesis.ie on Dec 17, 2009 4:32:19 GMT -5
Had you heard them before the upgrade as well?
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Post by Nemesis.ie on Dec 20, 2009 7:44:35 GMT -5
If we do a group buy, The Ninja will give us 10% discount.
All that needs to happen is for everyone to place their order within a 7 day period.
So lets run the poll a bit longer, see what the comments are on their 6.2 upgrades and then we can look at organising something.
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Post by pitbullmike on Dec 20, 2009 11:12:39 GMT -5
Im in for the ERT 8.3 and ERM 6.3. I wonder how much this would cost me. Maybe even the ERD's
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Post by MukAudio on Dec 20, 2009 13:03:22 GMT -5
Does anyone know how much of the cost of a Ninja upgrade you can expect get back out when you go to resell the speakers later on down the line?
Mark.
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Post by bigred7078 on Dec 20, 2009 15:59:42 GMT -5
Does anyone know how much of the cost of a Ninja upgrade you can expect get back out when you go to resell the speakers later on down the line? Mark. I think it would just depend on how long you have had them and how interested a potential buyer is... Some people would love the convenience of having the upgrade already done and others will just be looking for the cheapest price possible. |
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Post by Nemesis.ie on Dec 20, 2009 17:46:21 GMT -5
I've also asked about getting an "all new PCB" as well, that way, you could potentially sell the new crossover separately in the future after plugging the old one back in - and in my case I wouldn't have to be without my speakers. I suppose I could use my spare ERD-1 set + phantom centre while the crossovers went away. |
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Post by doug0617 on Dec 21, 2009 13:14:08 GMT -5
I sent my networks in to the Ninja awhile back. Beleive those are my crossover pictured on his sight. At that time he had no info or schematics to work off of. Sean went as far as to reach out to Emotiva at one of the equipment shows for a schematic. After he got one he upgraded some key components and sent them back. I installed them a let them break in and all I can say is it took a good speaker and made it better. Really opened them up. The 6.2's are an amazing speaker especially when you consider price. (still don't know how they do it. What a gift Emotiva has been for me with my low budget, they put audiophile grade equipment within my reach). The 6.2's rock!!
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Post by bigred7078 on Dec 21, 2009 13:40:54 GMT -5
I sent my networks in to the Ninja awhile back. Beleive those are my crossover pictured on his sight. At that time he had no info or schematics to work off of. Sean went as far as to reach out to Emotiva at one of the equipment shows for a schematic. After he got one he upgraded some key components and sent them back. I installed them a let them break in and all I can say is it took a good speaker and made it better. Really opened them up. The 6.2's are an amazing speaker especially when you consider price. (still don't know how they do it. What a gift Emotiva has been for me with my low budget, they put audiophile grade equipment within my reach). The 6.2's rock!! So how do you like your modded 6.2's compared to your Sierra-1's? |
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Post by monkumonku on Dec 21, 2009 14:50:10 GMT -5
I sent my networks in to the Ninja awhile back. Beleive those are my crossover pictured on his sight. At that time he had no info or schematics to work off of. Sean went as far as to reach out to Emotiva at one of the equipment shows for a schematic. After he got one he upgraded some key components and sent them back. I installed them a let them break in and all I can say is it took a good speaker and made it better. Really opened them up. The 6.2's are an amazing speaker especially when you consider price. (still don't know how they do it. What a gift Emotiva has been for me with my low budget, they put audiophile grade equipment within my reach). The 6.2's rock!! If you don't mind, could you please elaborate on what you mean by "really opened them up?" Such as details to give us some idea of what areas were improved, etc. Thanks! |
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Post by Animo on Dec 21, 2009 18:01:38 GMT -5
I sent my networks in to the Ninja awhile back. Beleive those are my crossover pictured on his sight. At that time he had no info or schematics to work off of. Sean went as far as to reach out to Emotiva at one of the equipment shows for a schematic. After he got one he upgraded some key components and sent them back. I installed them a let them break in and all I can say is it took a good speaker and made it better. Really opened them up. The 6.2's are an amazing speaker especially when you consider price. (still don't know how they do it. What a gift Emotiva has been for me with my low budget, they put audiophile grade equipment within my reach). The 6.2's rock!! If you don't mind, could you please elaborate on what you mean by "really opened them up?" Such as details to give us some idea of what areas were improved, etc. Thanks! It was as if a vale had been lifted. |
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Post by monkumonku on Dec 21, 2009 18:34:22 GMT -5
If you don't mind, could you please elaborate on what you mean by "really opened them up?" Such as details to give us some idea of what areas were improved, etc. Thanks! It was as if a vale had been lifted. So in other words after this mod the speakers sounded as good as ones costing at least 20x more than the Emo's, I take it.  |
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Post by MukAudio on Dec 21, 2009 19:16:18 GMT -5
It was as if a vale had been lifted. So in other words after this mod the speakers sounded as good as ones costing at least 20x more than the Emo's, I take it. And then it was compared to some obscure product you've never heard of and the review said that it was almost as good but that obscure product did manage to best it in some subtle way, therefore assuring future advertising for that obscure product... Gotta love audio magazine reviews. ;D Mark. |
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Post by doug0617 on Dec 21, 2009 23:57:06 GMT -5
Yea, kind of hard to descibe a perceived change without bringing out the overly used reveiwers words. But here goes. Broader soundstage and a live performance sounds like a live performance. Take it as you will. The sierra's have a wonderful midrange and top end but could not take the xpa-2 power. They would start to compress the sound and even pop in displeasure. I need something that can hang with the two mfw-15's and the 6.2's are the one's which can. The 6.2's I can turn uphalfway and they only get better. Have yet to hear them give up. My ears(and the neighbors) give up first. After hearing the sierra's I knew what was missing in the 6.2's (and for twice the price they should) and the ninja said he'd like a shot at them and that he thought he could give me what I was looking for. Ended up selling the sierra's and keeping the 6.2's. It was worth the gamble for me warranty or not.
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Post by monkumonku on Dec 22, 2009 0:19:09 GMT -5
Yea, kind of hard to descibe a perceived change without bringing out the overly used reveiwers words. But here goes. Broader soundstage and a live performance sounds like a live performance. Take it as you will. The sierra's have a wonderful midrange and top end but could not take the xpa-2 power. They would start to compress the sound and even pop in displeasure. I need something that can hang with the two mfw-15's and the 6.2's are the one's which can. The 6.2's I can turn uphalfway and they only get better. Have yet to hear them give up. My ears(and the neighbors) give up first. After hearing the sierra's I knew what was missing in the 6.2's (and for twice the price they should) and the ninja said he'd like a shot at them and that he thought he could give me what I was looking for. Ended up selling the sierra's and keeping the 6.2's. It was worth the gamble for me warranty or not. Thanks for the info. So were you able to crank the 6.2's that high before the Ninja upgrade, or did the upgrade help in that respect? |
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Post by Nemesis.ie on Dec 22, 2009 5:08:20 GMT -5
The Ninja says he can look at the option of getting blank PCBs from Emotiva for those that would like to get a ready to go replacement without having to send away their crossovers (likely you would still have to solder the switches off/on, but that would be all I believe.
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Post by bigred7078 on Dec 22, 2009 9:51:15 GMT -5
Yea, kind of hard to descibe a perceived change without bringing out the overly used reveiwers words. But here goes. Broader soundstage and a live performance sounds like a live performance. Take it as you will. The sierra's have a wonderful midrange and top end but could not take the xpa-2 power. They would start to compress the sound and even pop in displeasure. I need something that can hang with the two mfw-15's and the 6.2's are the one's which can. The 6.2's I can turn uphalfway and they only get better. Have yet to hear them give up. My ears(and the neighbors) give up first. After hearing the sierra's I knew what was missing in the 6.2's (and for twice the price they should) and the ninja said he'd like a shot at them and that he thought he could give me what I was looking for. Ended up selling the sierra's and keeping the 6.2's. It was worth the gamble for me warranty or not. great thank! So how long now have you had the upgrades? |
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Post by doug0617 on Dec 22, 2009 14:08:15 GMT -5
The 6.2's crank right out of the box. Unbelievable.
I asked the Ninja if he could design a new network and he said he could. More time and of course costs would be involved there. I know he'll work for you with what you want. If he could get the boards from emo seems the sky's the limit. The 6.2's seem to be a well designed box and speakers (to me a novice) so, there's probably alot to work with.
I've had the upgrades in for about two months now. I did not want to say to much here till I got a chance to break them in. I don't want to step on toes here at emo either. Though they did work with the ninja once he told them what we were up to. Emo & 6.2's rock!!
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Post by robin on Dec 22, 2009 23:08:56 GMT -5
FYI: ERM-6.2 and ERM-1 share the same crossover. So the votes should be counted together.
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