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Post by audiodragon on Feb 9, 2012 17:25:50 GMT -5
oh... forgot; the fix to this issue install an HDMI switch between the 722 and the umc-1; i used a monoprice 1x4 i had laying around resolves the issue So the switch acts as an interrupt between the 722k and UMC-1 and keeps the UMC-1 from responding allowing the 722k to function normally when the UMC-1 is powered off? I have a 722k that gets a lot of use and have been hesitant to try a UMC-1 partly because of this. If the issue is that simple to resolve I may just try it. BTW, was the switch a powered or non powered unit, automatic or manual? Thanks |
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Post by dkaudio on Feb 10, 2012 10:36:18 GMT -5
I think Dish is aware that they have issue with HDMI on both the 622 and 722 boxes because they instruct their authorized installers to use Component Video/Digital audio instead of HDMI when installing these two boxes. The internet is full of Dish owners complaining about HDMI issues with just about every single brand of pre/pro. No single brand always has issues, but no single brand is without issues using HDMI on the 622/722. DirecTV also has HDMI issues similar to what Dish experiences and their authorized installers have also been instructed to use Component Video/Digital Audio in lieu of HDMI, if the customer allows the substitution. I am not sure why Dish and DirecTV are having these issues, but their tech support engineers say they are aware of the problem and are working on a fix. They have been saying this for at least the past three years. Yes but the point of this thread (as many have stated) is that their old processors / receivers didn't have any issues with the 722. Put the UMC-1 in and it started having issues. I had an Onkyo PR-SC886 that I am trying to sell currently and bought a UMC-1 as its replacement, never had an issue with the Onkyo. |
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Post by roadrebel on Feb 16, 2012 17:08:23 GMT -5
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Post by steiny93 on Feb 23, 2012 11:49:22 GMT -5
oh... forgot; the fix to this issue install an HDMI switch between the 722 and the umc-1; i used a monoprice 1x4 i had laying around resolves the issue So the switch acts as an interrupt between the 722k and UMC-1 and keeps the UMC-1 from responding allowing the 722k to function normally when the UMC-1 is powered off? I have a 722k that gets a lot of use and have been hesitant to try a UMC-1 partly because of this. If the issue is that simple to resolve I may just try it. BTW, was the switch a powered or non powered unit, automatic or manual? Thanks I'm using the powered monoprice switch; i believe the same one that roadrebel linked to in the above post. I don't believe Dish is that aware of the issue; I exchanged 'several'; like 4 722's with them and 3 tech visits before I figured out the issue via my own debugging. Dish kept thinking the 722's were bad as their behavior was so sporatic. The bad luck was that my umc-1 arrived while the first 722 was dieing so I didn't swap the umc until the replacement arrived. Hence the swapping of 2 devices (umc/722) and mistakely assuming the 722's being sent out were the issue. |
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Post by bborzell on Feb 24, 2012 16:22:20 GMT -5
I switched from HDMI to Componet/Toslink in an effort to resolve the falure to reboot issue. Now programmed recordings actually occur when they should.
However, even the latest FW update can't seem to help a machine gun like blast that sporadically emits from the speakers while playing back recorded material and, go figure, when watching national network shows.
I have taken to holding the UMC-1 remote in my hand with my thumb near the mute button. I hope the XMC will be able to handle sat receivers.
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Post by roadrebel on Feb 24, 2012 21:57:30 GMT -5
I switched from HDMI to Componet/Toslink in an effort to resolve the falure to reboot issue. Now programmed recordings actually occur when they should. However, even the latest FW update can't seem to help a machine gun like blast that sporadically emits from the speakers while playing back recorded material and, go figure, when watching national network shows. I have taken to holding the UMC-1 remote in my hand with my thumb near the mute button. I hope the XMC will be able to handle sat receivers. I had/have the same issues when jumping forward etc using Optical. HDMI with the latest firmware and the Dish boxes works the best out of everything to date I have run on it which is one of the main reasons to try and work in getting a resolution to the nightly reboots. I am messing with another device called DrHDMI that's pretty neat and designed to resolve all these handshake,EDID et all and offers a 30 day guarantee to solve. |
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Post by venturesteve on Apr 7, 2012 13:33:13 GMT -5
I have Dish VIP612. No problems whatsoever with all EMO setup hooked up HDMI. I try to mess it up, with no success. Ok,, I had the VIP612 in the bedroom and the 722 in the living room. the 722 has not been able to record when the UMC-1 was off!! I just swapped the two,,, the VIP612 gives me the same problem!! When I turn on the UMC-1, the 612 will start recording! Is there an other solution to this problem other than using a HDMI switch that uses ANOTHER WALL WART!! Thanks, Steve |
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Post by roadrebel on Apr 7, 2012 18:47:51 GMT -5
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Post by bootman on Apr 8, 2012 8:13:31 GMT -5
What is Emotiva's official stance on this issue?
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Post by roadrebel on May 13, 2012 8:44:34 GMT -5
What is Emotiva's official stance on this issue? TTT for this month  |
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Post by dkaudio on Jun 26, 2012 15:33:35 GMT -5
Ok, so I replaced HDMI with component and optical. Now I get this horrible burst noise that lasts about 2 seconds. It happens after I finish watching a DVR show and the audio comes back by going into guide. It is loud, any ideas on that now?
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Post by suffolk112000 on Jun 26, 2012 16:47:06 GMT -5
This is weird. My two upstairs DirecTV receivers have been experiencing this issue for quite some time. No UMC-1 involved. For instance, I just have my bedroom DirecTV receiver hooked directly to my TV. (Model H20) About two or three times per week, it will just randomly re-boot for no apparent reason. Obviously no relation to the UMC-1. When it first started happening, I thought it was DirecTV performing some kind of ‘fix’ to the receivers. But after it happened about 6 or so times in the course of 3 or 4 weeks, I attributed it to some kind of power surge. Now, after more than two years of this continueing, I now I think it is just DirecTV. Further: One thing I have noticed while reading these forums is that some who appear to be having issues with the UMC-1 have unique systems like a home theater PC and what not. I just think that whenever you venture off the beaten path with your configuration, you open yourself up for other issues within the chain. |
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Post by roadrebel on Jun 27, 2012 16:42:40 GMT -5
Ok, so I replaced HDMI with component and optical. Now I get this horrible burst noise that lasts about 2 seconds. It happens after I finish watching a DVR show and the audio comes back by going into guide. It is loud, any ideas on that now? This is why I was working on a solution to use the HDMI. the HDMI with the latest firmware works much better than optical now. The HDMI switch from mono price is cheap and does the trick with the dishnetwork irds. |
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Post by roadrunner on Jun 27, 2012 17:36:44 GMT -5
I am not absolutely certain about this, but I believe the rebooting of DTV is the result of increased sunspot activity. At the beginning of the year I read an article about we should expect all sorts of communications problems throughout the year because of heightened sun spot activity.
I have three DTV receivers, only one of them connected via HDMI, and all three of them have been having random reboots. I have had more reboots in the past few months than the previous ten years combined.
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Post by AudioHTIT on Jun 29, 2012 14:42:44 GMT -5
So it looks like with the UMC-1 there are a couple workarounds for this problem - HDMI splitter/buffer, or component/TOSLink connection - but not an actual solution. What would be interesting to know is whether Emotiva has any Dish equipment in house for testing yet? With the XMC-1 the component workaround goes away, and adding a switch/buffer is kludge workaround for a new piece of equipment.
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Post by alhull on Jul 6, 2012 16:48:20 GMT -5
I picked up the Monoprice hdmi splitter (1 in, 2 out), for my Dish 722 dvr. I still have the component cables hooked up to the UMC-1 and fiber optic for audio. I hooked up the splitter using hdmi out on the DVR to the splitter Input. Then output 1 to the UMC-1 as hdmi input 4. When I go into setup menu on the UMC-1 and switch my SAT input setup to use HDMI 4 I never get any signal at all. I am at a loss why there's no signal. It seems like a pretty straight-forward hookup. Does having the component outs still running stopping the 722 from using the HDMI output? |
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Post by Black Sabbath on Jul 6, 2012 17:12:30 GMT -5
I picked up the Monoprice hdmi splitter (1 in, 2 out), for my Dish 722 dvr. I still have the component cables hooked up to the UMC-1 and fiber optic for audio. I hooked up the splitter using hdmi out on the DVR to the splitter Input. Then output 1 to the UMC-1 as hdmi input 4. When I go into setup menu on the UMC-1 and switch my SAT input setup to use HDMI 4 I never get any signal at all. I am at a loss why there's no signal. It seems like a pretty straight-forward hookup. Does having the component outs still running stopping the 722 from using the HDMI output? yes |
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Post by suffolk112000 on Jul 6, 2012 22:30:07 GMT -5
I am not absolutely certain about this, but I believe the rebooting of DTV is the result of increased sunspot activity. At the beginning of the year I read an article about we should expect all sorts of communications problems throughout the year because of heightened sun spot activity. I have three DTV receivers, only one of them connected via HDMI, and all three of them have been having random reboots. I have had more reboots in the past few months than the previous ten years combined. Yesterday, my DirecTV bedroom receiver had two instances of random audio drop-outs and then a short time later, it just randomly went into a random re-boot. My UMC-1 is in the basement. No relation to the UMC-1. I think it's time for new DirecTV equipment.  |
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Post by jamrock on Jul 7, 2012 7:45:13 GMT -5
I am planning to switch to Dish Network from Comcast Cable by year's end just to be able to get live sports & basic programming in hi-def. For movies, it will be Netflix and my expanding bluray collection. I just hope that I'm not making a big mistake from the issues I'm reading in this thread.
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Post by suffolk112000 on Jul 7, 2012 8:53:59 GMT -5
Sounds like all of these companies (Dish/DirecTV/Cable) have issues with their gear.  Right now, I have DirecTV, with the MLB Network playing in the background, CH 213. I've been surfing the A/V forums this morning and I've had two audio drop-outs in the course of a few hours. I really think my drop-outs and re-boots are more of an issue than I originally thought. |
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