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Post by LCSeminole on Feb 2, 2010 20:33:26 GMT -5
It's too bad you couldn't wait, especially when getting a UMC-1 was oh so close, but you had to do what you had to do to get your system up and running. Just curious what did you pay for the 886 and where did you get it. I thought the 886's were about extinct since the 5507 and 40.1/80.1's are shipping. The only place that I know of that actually has them in stock is Outlaw and at a $1449 premium. Hope you enjoy the XPA-5. LC, You are right and the last batch of 886's went to Outlaw and included the latest firmware. The 886 has now been retired. Ya know I do not care what other folks buy or why they make their choices. It is all good. I do like to trade ideas here and let everyone make their own choices. I personally think the Emo brand has won me over though as I think the value for the dollar and quality put into the products makes owning them, and upgrading my gear a new found priority. Emotiva has definitely won me over, whether it be my LMC-1 & XPA-5 banging out the movies or my USP-1 & ERC-1 playing non-stop, I've made my choices wisely. To each their own, and the end result should be bliss the ears.  |
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Post by LCSeminole on Feb 2, 2010 20:39:30 GMT -5
I bought it at outlaw, yeah I paid a premium, but it's still a good product, and if that's "outdated" then the UMC-1 is really outdated, check the specs/processors, onkyo has everything UMC has and more. The new Onkyo processor 5507 is not worth it, it's 2500 and the main difference is it has support for 9 channels, don't know anyone who needs 9 speakers. The other thing that all these preamps have that really is unnecessary is video processing, at this level I think we all run HD content only, and so video processing may improve the picture some, but actually more often can degrade the picture. I always run pass-thru modes. Again, I hope in the end it is worth it to you, that's all that matters.  Now I could be wrong but I have to disagree on the processors. I'm pretty sure the specs and capabilities of the dual Cirrus design are more advanced than the TI chip in the Onkyo's. Someone please correct me if my facts are incorrect. |
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Post by klinemj on Feb 2, 2010 20:43:51 GMT -5
Actually Lawrence...the Onkyo does have a superior toaster section to the UMC-1's. It accepts all the lastest lossless bread codec's just as the UMC's toaster section does, but due to the Onkyo's higher heat - it processes the bread into toast far faster. |
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Post by LCSeminole on Feb 2, 2010 20:52:03 GMT -5
Actually Lawrence...the Onkyo does have a superior toaster section to the UMC-1's. It accepts all the lastest lossless bread codec's just as the UMC's toaster section does, but due to the Onkyo's higher heat - it processes the bread into toast far faster. Mark, You're killing me!!! ;D LMAO!!! |
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Post by klinemj on Feb 2, 2010 20:57:20 GMT -5
Hehehe...I'm in a jovial mood tonight...chuckienut's post on the basis for the XPR acronym has my brain stirring with silly thoughts...
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Post by gocolts on Feb 2, 2010 21:21:22 GMT -5
I got it haha I would rather have Dan burn down my house instead of some Onkyo wanna be though.. Good point! ;D You got the joke part, and hopefully everyone else got the sarcasm part.. |
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Post by RayoVac on Feb 2, 2010 23:59:39 GMT -5
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Post by owtuv on Feb 3, 2010 2:46:14 GMT -5
Now I could be wrong but I have to disagree on the processors. I'm pretty sure the specs and capabilities of the dual Cirrus design are more advanced than the TI chip in the Onkyo's. Someone please correct me if my facts are incorrect. Well, at least the TI chip does decode DSD, while the Cirrus chip needs the LPCM stream. Best regards, Ole Willy Tuv |
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Post by solidstate on Feb 3, 2010 2:50:38 GMT -5
A lot of the abilities your talking about are licensing issues in DSP. In other words these features can be enabled and disabled when it's dev into an AVR. They are not for the most part chip specific. Notice how on some motherboards with Realtek 883 that some support dolby digital live and others do not. It's a licensing option when you purchase the commercial use license for codec decoding technology/algorithms etc.
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Post by teedub21 on Feb 3, 2010 2:59:22 GMT -5
I bought it at outlaw, yeah I paid a premium, but it's still a good product, and if that's "outdated" then the UMC-1 is really outdated, check the specs/processors, onkyo has everything UMC has and more. The new Onkyo processor 5507 is not worth it, it's 2500 and the main difference is it has support for 9 channels, don't know anyone who needs 9 speakers. The other thing that all these preamps have that really is unnecessary is video processing, at this level I think we all run HD content only, and so video processing may improve the picture some, but actually more often can degrade the picture. I always run pass-thru modes. Ordered my 5507 for $1639 shipped. No delivery until March first though. I signed up on the pre-order list for the UMC1 but never got a confirmation, but I was late to that game. I got concerned that when/if a UMC |
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Post by strindl on Feb 3, 2010 3:01:39 GMT -5
The Onkyo receivers run hot, not the preamps. I have the Integra version of the Onkyo 886, the DHC 9.9. I've had it for a year now and love it, but it does run a bit hot. The most heat is centered on the top along the back edge. There is even a sticker on it warning that running hot is normal for it and not to be concerned. I put an Antec audio component cooling platform thing on top of it to suck the heat away. That helped. The heat has caused no issues and it has worked perfectly since day one. |
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Post by teedub21 on Feb 3, 2010 3:02:11 GMT -5
I bought it at outlaw, yeah I paid a premium, but it's still a good product, and if that's "outdated" then the UMC-1 is really outdated, check the specs/processors, onkyo has everything UMC has and more. The new Onkyo processor 5507 is not worth it, it's 2500 and the main difference is it has support for 9 channels, don't know anyone who needs 9 speakers. The other thing that all these preamps have that really is unnecessary is video processing, at this level I think we all run HD content only, and so video processing may improve the picture some, but actually more often can degrade the picture. I always run pass-thru modes. Ordered my 5507 for $1639 shipped. No delivery until March first though. I signed up on the pre-order list for the UMC1 but never got a confirmation, but I was late to that game. I got concerned that when/if a UMC 1 came available to me it wouldn't be until late spring and I didn't want to wait that long. If anyone can convince me I could get one sooner I'd cancel the order for the Onkyo and save myself a grand. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2010 3:30:52 GMT -5
Hehehe...I'm in a jovial mood tonight...chuckienut's post on the basis for the XPR acronym has my brain stirring with silly thoughts... Oh sure, blame your silliness on me? ;D A. Mark, mark, mark. Q. What does a dog with a cleft palate say? |
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Post by Mike Ronesia on Feb 3, 2010 4:04:18 GMT -5
If I didn't have anything to run my new system I'd be doing something as well. How long could you guys sit around with all new speakers and an XPA-5 and do nothing but dust it. I'm guessing a lot of you would have gotten something else before now. Most of us waiting have something in place that we plan to retire, sell or reassign to another room so it's easy to be patient. Getting more and more like other forums I don't go to anymore. If you're going to pick on what someone does pick on Chuckienut. It's easy and he won't even know you're doing it.  I'm sure you will be very happy with your new system. Enjoy! |
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Post by RadTech on Feb 3, 2010 5:49:39 GMT -5
Actually Lawrence...the Onkyo does have a superior toaster section to the UMC-1's. It accepts all the lastest lossless bread codec's just as the UMC's toaster section does, but due to the Onkyo's higher heat - it processes the bread into toast far faster. It is 5:45 am and, I'm am seriously LMAO.  |
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Post by klinemj on Feb 3, 2010 7:16:00 GMT -5
Oh, no blaming at all, just claiming some great inspiration.
By the way, my cat was looking at my amp this AM and said, "e-meow-tiva".
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Post by venaka on Feb 3, 2010 8:21:31 GMT -5
If I didn't have anything to run my new system I'd be doing something as well. How long could you guys sit around with all new speakers and an XPA-5 and do nothing but dust it. since December of 2008! Got my Umc on Jan 21 2010. FInally opened 75% of my Blu-ray movies and have been watching HUrt Locker. Hearing a Barrett through a XPA-5.............Priceless |
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Post by bob (aka *bleep*) on Feb 3, 2010 9:17:01 GMT -5
the newer 5507 pre-amp has everything the 886 has and more and can be had from an authorized dealer for about $1600. Yes, it is still an Onkyo, and yes, almost $1000 more than the UMC, but ohhhh boy the tweakability...
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Post by jason1976 on Feb 3, 2010 10:33:33 GMT -5
Now I could be wrong but I have to disagree on the processors. I'm pretty sure the specs and capabilities of the dual Cirrus design are more advanced than the TI chip in the Onkyo's. Someone please correct me if my facts are incorrect. Well, at least the TI chip does decode DSD, while the Cirrus chip needs the LPCM stream. Best regards, Ole Willy Tuv Not entirely true. The TI Chips down-convert to PCM after the DSD enters the receiver/preamp for bass management and whatever post processing occurs. The Cirrus chips are capable of this, but sounds like there is a Sony licensing issue at play. www.ultimateavmag.com/avreceivers/integra_dtr-99_av_receiver/It really makes no difference. The 5.1 DSD signal has to get converted to PCM at some point for bass management and other time alignment needs. If it didn't go through this process, people with anything but large speakers and equidistant placement would be screwed. The only exception to this were the first 2 channel SACD players from Sony that took the native signal and outputted via analog from the player. So if the player sends DSD or PCM, it really makes no difference because it is going to PCM eventually. Kal Rubinsion did a writeup on the 9.8 and preferred the PCM conversion in the OPPO player. He also noted that the preamp appeared to down convert the DSD signal to 44.1khz resolution. This is pretty consistent with Lonnie's comments that the Cirrus solution can run at higher resolutions and also do post processing on top. www.stereophile.com/hirezplayers/108mitr/index2.html |
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Post by TRT on Feb 3, 2010 10:38:05 GMT -5
The Onkyo receivers run hot, not the preamps. My Integra DTC-9.8 can heat a 12' x 15' room....easily  |
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Now I could be wrong but I have to disagree on the processors. I'm pretty sure the specs and capabilities of the dual Cirrus design are more advanced than the TI chip in the Onkyo's. Someone please correct me if my facts are incorrect.
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