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Post by aussie on Sept 6, 2010 23:37:41 GMT -5
Pitty as I too was thinking of moving upto the XMC-1 with the Phono stage being the main reason why.
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Post by Erwin.BE on Sept 7, 2010 1:51:23 GMT -5
Thanks George. I presume the "nope" also means no phono preamp. That is very disappointing to me. As a loyal Emo customer, I have been quietly holding out for the XMC-1 for the primary reason that it would contain a phono section. Yes, I know I can get a quality outboard preamp. However, it is not the cost of the extra preamp that concerns me but the space requirements in my component rack. I will end up with an XPA-5. ERC-1. XDA-1, Oppo 83, XMC-1, SMS-1, Furman PC, Panny DVR and Technics turnatble all on one tall rack. I have the feeling they might have known for sometime that they had eliminated the phono section. It would have been nice if they had let us on the waiting list know about this. I signed up on the XMC-1 waiting list due to the proposed upgrades, including the phono section. Too bad they put the XMC-1 on the back burner when originally it was suppose to be an upgrade to the UMC-1. I thought there were many others who also held out for the XMC-1 because of the phono section. End of whining. No deal breaker IMO. The AVR out there that do have a phono input (like my Yamaha, not the cheapest) are MM. While the better elements are MC. I ended up with a little Clearaudio nanophono that's about the same size as a big box of matches, which I have placed "stealth" on a rack shelf. I think price was about €200. ProJect has even cheaper ones, but I was advised this one for my MC element. I presume Emotiva worked really hard to keep the price below $1,000 and a descent phono input with MC would have made that goal impossible, no? |
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Post by Nemesis.ie on Sept 7, 2010 4:30:13 GMT -5
I have an external phono pre too - somewhere, it's so small it got lost. I was really looking forward to having one on the XMC to finally look into sorting out my vinyl collection.  |
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Post by NorthStar on Sept 7, 2010 5:01:13 GMT -5
I think CB here came with a great solution for you guys with the desire of a phono preamp. And there are several more with similar small sizes and of great audio quality too. * If you're truly serious about vinyl, you have your own separate phono preamp; good for MC as well MM phono cartridges. Sooo, get on with your life right now! ;D |
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Post by chappy on Sept 7, 2010 7:11:19 GMT -5
The demo they were showing at Emofest had a "Phono". I also got on the list Sunday for one. What demo are you talking about that had a phono stage? They did have the USP-1 and XSP-1 on display that had phono stages. Well I was completely wrong...it was the XSP-1 now that you mention it. Also, wonder how that 23 year old is enjoying his "Dream Theater"... |
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Post by DYohn on Sept 7, 2010 8:44:26 GMT -5
Thanks to all for the feedback on the lack of phono section in the XMC-1. I had thought maybe they could offer a phono preamp in an RU-1 box like the XDA-1. However, I presumed if they did not have enough interest in one for the XMC-1, then that idea might not fly. On the other hand, with the reputation Emo is/will be establishing with components like the XDA-1, a high quality phono unit in a RU-1 unit would certainly be a perfect answer for me. I know all that room is not necessary but the RU shape is more practical for fitting attractively into my rack than a small remote size box. However, I would buy the small phono preamp in a box if that is what they offer. An XPP-1 (X-phono preamp in RU-1) would look great right above the XDA-1. Typical Emo style with blue lights for MC/MM indicator and switch, etc. I would rather have a full 17" width than a half wide unit that still takes up a whole space on my rack. (Jolida and Bryston make full width phono units) I might have to consider the XPS-1 as an alternative, great suggestion. The F-117 and other units from RS Audio look great. Thanks guys for the ideas. ;D Hey Chuck, if you really want a phono preamp and want it to fit into a specific size and shape, send me the size specs and I'll build you a custom one that fits where you need it to fit... |
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Post by jamesflames on Sept 7, 2010 10:26:51 GMT -5
Nope means that nope, it won't have one. I discussed this w/Lonnie, and he said that it would not. I told him they phono section in the USP-1 is fantastic and that they should offer it as a standalone head amp for those wanting to use phono, and he said he has a design for that he'd like to offer. They didn't officially say they would be doing something like it - but it makes sense to me to offer. His idea was for a head amp in a very small box - smaller than the heavy duty remote for their CD play and the milled one for the UMC-1. Surprised they would look into this anytime soon as this makes the USP/XSP more appealing now. I was holding out on the UMC due to the firmware issues and lack of phono section but now that the XMC will not have a phone section I may consider the XSP. |
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Post by MUGEN on Sept 7, 2010 10:52:56 GMT -5
XPR-5 $1699XPR-7 $1999 XPR-2 $1499 XPR-1. $1299 These are projected prices. Looks like I'll be buying a XPA-5 as the XPR-5 isn't worth twice the price for watts I don't really need. |
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Post by Erwin.BE on Sept 7, 2010 11:46:11 GMT -5
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Post by MUGEN on Sept 7, 2010 13:15:30 GMT -5
The XPR-1 is correctly priced but the XPR-2 is $700 more than the XPA-2 and the XPR-5 is $900 more than the XPA-5. If Emotiva keeps making both lines of amps I can't see the consumer picking the more expensive amp unless they really need that much power. |
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Post by RSavage on Sept 7, 2010 13:46:47 GMT -5
If Emotiva keeps making both lines of amps I can't see the consumer picking the more expensive amp unless they really need that much power. The same could be said about a Ferrari......but they seem to sell as many of those as they can make. Consumers aren't always the most logical lot.  |
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Post by jordo on Sept 7, 2010 14:50:55 GMT -5
I want one of those XPRs and I sure don't need the power, the question is, can my breaker take it?? and will it fit in my rack?? nuf said |
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Post by paintedklown on Sept 7, 2010 15:12:57 GMT -5
I must have missed it somewhere....what are the power ratings for the various XPR amps?  Are they all double the XPA series counterparts? |
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Post by klinemj on Sept 7, 2010 16:12:21 GMT -5
Based on trying to lift even the power supply of an XPR-5, I think the big question is "can you lift it into your rack w/o blowing a back disk or a hernia?" That thing is MASSIVE!
On breakers, they did cut the power output to make sure it would run a standard line w/o issues, but they do reco 220 for those really wanting the power.
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Post by Erwin.BE on Sept 7, 2010 17:24:25 GMT -5
I must have missed it somewhere....what are the power ratings for the various XPR amps? Are they all double the XPA series counterparts? all channels Watts @ 8 ohms: XPR-7 = 300 XPR-5 = 400 XPR-2 = 500 XPR-1 = 1,000 Give or take a few...  |
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Post by NorthStar on Sept 8, 2010 6:09:25 GMT -5
I bet those newer XPR amps series will find their homes with high end speakers that are starving for real power. ...And there are many of those. ...Good move Emotiva! |
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Post by ratmice on Sept 8, 2010 8:34:06 GMT -5
Really! The lack of pictures is depressing.
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Post by LCSeminole on Sept 8, 2010 9:05:38 GMT -5
I must have missed it somewhere....what are the power ratings for the various XPR amps? Are they all double the XPA series counterparts? The ratings that were given at EmoFest were conservative as quoted from Big Dan: XPR-7: 350 watts RMS @ 8 ohms per channel, all channels driven 600 watts RMS @ 4 ohms per channel, all channels driven XPR-5: 400 watts RMS @ 8 ohms per channel, all channels driven 800 watts RMS @ 4 ohms per channel, all channels driven XPR-2: 600 watts RMS @ 8 ohms per channel, all channels driven 1200 watts RMS @ 4 ohms per channel, all channels driven XPR-1:1000 watts RMS @ 8 ohms per channel, all channels driven 2000 watts RMS @ 4 ohms per channel, all channels driven |
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Post by SpeedD408 on Sept 8, 2010 9:18:38 GMT -5
Is the 2nd line supposed to be 4 ohms? |
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Post by Poodleluvr on Sept 8, 2010 9:24:04 GMT -5
Thank you LCSeminole for providing some specs on the XPR series, to include RMS ratings, but is not the XPR-1 a mono block amp; whereas, "all channels driven" remains singular as one channel of dedicated amplification?
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