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Post by Mischief on Jan 21, 2011 16:54:40 GMT -5
That just about the first I've heard about a time frame for the new code. I'm just speculating here, but, if I remember correctly the chipset used in the XMC is just about the same as the UMC. If I was them, I would get the kinks worked out of the code on the UMC first. And them port those newer tweaks over to the XMC code. Common sense is a virtue, but don't get too logical. Keep an eye out for the poison dart! ;D jamrock Damn, I just poked myself in the eye with a poison dart
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Post by xki on Jan 21, 2011 20:10:20 GMT -5
Common sense is a virtue, but don't get too logical. Keep an eye out for the poison dart! ;D jamrock Damn, I just poked myself in the eye with a poison dart So much for 3D, huh?
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Post by klinemj on Jan 21, 2011 21:18:52 GMT -5
that is a classic one, xki!
And mischief...make sure you put a cork on your fork, ala Steve Martin in Dirty Rotten Scoundrels...you don't want to risk losing #2!
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Post by xki on Jan 21, 2011 22:10:18 GMT -5
that is a classic one, xki! And mischief...make sure you put a cork on your fork, ala Steve Martin in Dirty Rotten Scoundrels...you don't want to risk losing #2! +1 Rupret rules!
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Post by xki on Jan 21, 2011 22:29:42 GMT -5
Enough malarkey: When powering off tonight, the display went dark, the halo did not flash and the other buttons stayed illuminated bright blue. Another power cycle and all was well. No impact, just a bit mysterious.
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Post by carbonsummit on Jan 21, 2011 22:54:48 GMT -5
Damn, I just poked myself in the eye with a poison dart So much for 3D, huh? Is HDMI 1.4 something they could update the UMC-1 to with just a firmware upgrade?
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Post by xki on Jan 22, 2011 8:51:46 GMT -5
Is HDMI 1.4 something they could update the UMC-1 to with just a firmware upgrade? It has been stated in another thread that it is not possible with firmware since the chipset architecture is different for 1.4. I think I read somewhere that there is another back-talk mechanism between devices that the current chips don't have. I don't know if that has anything to do with 3D. Anyone care to elaborate, link to the thread I can't find, or start a new thread?
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Post by klinemj on Jan 22, 2011 11:04:19 GMT -5
I recall the discussion but can't recall where it even was. I think there were mixed messages/stories going around, so who knows. For this one, I think it would be best to just emotiva directly.
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Post by carbonsummit on Jan 22, 2011 12:16:59 GMT -5
I guess I don't see me getting a 3D TV anytime soon anyway so if its not possible I guess I really don't care. I'm just not that excited about the whole 3D thing anyway.
Day 30 on my return policy. Hopefully all hell doesn't break loose now!
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Post by petes on Jan 23, 2011 6:12:13 GMT -5
Has anyone managed to downgrade from .05 back to .02.00? I have probelsm with .05 acquiring DD 2.0 signals which were fixed in .02.00 and I want to go back to .02.00 for now.
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Post by jamrock on Jan 23, 2011 7:55:54 GMT -5
I am in the market this year for a 65" LED w/local dimming or plasma display. I am thinking of getting a 3D version even though I might not use it. The reason being that it appears that the manufacturers are putting their best technologies in the 3D versions. So you also get those benefits where possible for 2D viewing. My wife is also fascinated with 3D especially if it can work with the wii. That makes the XMC-1 (all-digital) a must have.
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Post by klinemj on Jan 23, 2011 12:01:24 GMT -5
That is a very good point, jamrock...
I personally have not been really excited about 3D - largely because I already wear glasses, and the whole glasses over glasses thing is really a pain. It was so distracting in the new Tron movie that I hardly appreciated most of the 3D effects and would have been happier in 2D. But, what comes along for the right can be a good thing...
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Post by gd on Jan 23, 2011 12:37:16 GMT -5
I'll consider upgrading to a 3D tv when glasses are no longer required, until then 2D works for me and my wife.
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Post by xki on Jan 23, 2011 20:49:14 GMT -5
I'll consider upgrading to a 3D tv when glasses are no longer required, until then 2D works for me and my wife. I see it like this, if you had to where earphones to get surround sound would you? Of course not! So, why would you place glasses on your head to get 3D? Maybe in 20 years they will get it figured out. I'm certainly not an early adopter for the 3D push. I'll just sit back and watch the fight!
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Post by monkumonku on Jan 23, 2011 20:51:32 GMT -5
I'll consider upgrading to a 3D tv when glasses are no longer required, until then 2D works for me and my wife. I see it like this, if you had to where earphones to get surround sound would you? Of course not! So, why would you place glasses on your head to get 3D? Maybe in 20 years they will get it figured out. I'm certainly not an early adopter for the 3D push. I'll just sit back and watch the fight! Actually it would be nice to have headphones that were capable of surround sound since that way you wouldn't be limited as far as how late at night you had the HT turned up really loud. But headphones are inconvenient and so are glasses. Plus I already wear glasses so that makes it double inconvenient.
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Post by ÈlTwo on Jan 23, 2011 21:00:23 GMT -5
I'll watch 3D at home when it doesn't make me nauseous.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2011 21:01:33 GMT -5
I also think the 3D craze is a passing fad - unless they are able to implement it without the need for 3D glasses. IMHO, it is merely a marketing gimmick that allows companies to re-sell to the masses a whole new set of hardware and software. My Mitsu TV is 3D-capable, but I did not buy it for that capability and I have not invested in the ancillary equipment to implement the feature.
The picture quality of my TV is outstanding and plenty good enough for me for the forseeable future.
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Post by xki on Jan 23, 2011 21:36:20 GMT -5
I also think the 3D craze is a passing fad - unless they are able to implement it without the need for 3D glasses. IMHO, it is merely a marketing gimmick that allows companies to re-sell to the masses a whole new set of hardware and software. My Mitsu TV is 3D-capable, but I did not buy it for that capability and I have not invested in the ancillary equipment to implement the feature. The picture quality of my TV is outstanding and plenty good enough for me for the forseeable future. -RW- Agree completely. If I have 12 people over for the Superbowl, I don't want to have to buy 12 pairs of 3D glasses! Jeez what a pain! 12 beers per round is bad enough!
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Post by carbonsummit on Jan 23, 2011 22:46:50 GMT -5
I also think the 3D craze is a passing fad - unless they are able to implement it without the need for 3D glasses. IMHO, it is merely a marketing gimmick that allows companies to re-sell to the masses a whole new set of hardware and software. My Mitsu TV is 3D-capable, but I did not buy it for that capability and I have not invested in the ancillary equipment to implement the feature. The picture quality of my TV is outstanding and plenty good enough for me for the forseeable future. -RW- +1 I don't think 3D will go mainstream. What about the 3D TVs is better than current 2D TVs?
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Post by 2muchht on Jan 23, 2011 22:52:14 GMT -5
...It has been stated in another thread that it is not possible with firmware since the chipset architecture is different for 1.4... It is more than just the chipsets used, but it need not be "different" for an upgrade to be possible. Everything depends on the Rx/Tx chip combination used. Some of those are able to carry through the VSIF data needed for HDMI v.1.4a. That's the signalling that the 3D source uses to tell the sink (your TV) what type of 3D is in use so that it may switch accordingly. In reality, it is a bit more than that. In the case of the UMC they would need to have a true hardware bypass so that the 3D video does not go through the Torino, along with the changes to the HDMI stacks. Given a bit of luck in the way the original hardware was laid out it IS possible to upgrade to HDMI v.1.4a, as one or two manufacturers have done it. However, this would be for 3D only, not for ARC, as that would require significant layout changes along with all of the software. Emo promised WAY back that they would have an update for the UMC-1 to HDMI 1.4, but that seems to have fallen off the turnip truck. To be sure, it ain't easy to do and requires some time, engineering work and prescient choices in the original design. It is something they promised, but didn't deliver. Such is life in the wild world of home theater electronics.
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