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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2011 10:53:36 GMT -5
Makes total sense to kill a product line that is not selling in volume at a time when AVR's continue to deliver ever improving sound quality and performance. Just read a few reviews on the recently released Anthem all-in-ones. For me separates are about headroom and dynamics and 125wpch is just not gonna cut it. JD I am very satisfied with my UPA-5, the dynamic range is quite amazing. Almost all receivers are unable to deliver even 60 watts per channel with more than one other channel driven. I'm not someone who wants to annoy someone living three houses away. Besides, you won't enjoy music or movies as much when you are hard of hearing.
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Post by mattputt on Mar 18, 2011 12:41:11 GMT -5
I was wondering if anyone knew when the final shipment of the UPA-7 is shipping out? I am getting very excited and anxious for it to arrive!
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Post by deano86 on Mar 18, 2011 14:27:56 GMT -5
It is pretty easy to just call Emotiva... they will let you know!
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Post by choirbass on Mar 23, 2011 18:56:34 GMT -5
I had called Emotiva yesterday morning, they said when it ships on March 28th a tracking # will be emailed (had forgotten about the tracking info). It looks like it was delayed a week, which is no big deal really.
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Post by alanj on Apr 5, 2011 11:22:15 GMT -5
Just received my UPA-7 and so far I am very impressed. It runs cool and is built like a tank! The first thing I did when I got it was add some handles to the front, so that I could get it in and out of my rack. Hopefully they don't void the warranty! Attachments:
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Post by iceman66 on Apr 5, 2011 11:47:16 GMT -5
Just received my UPA-7 and so far I am very impressed. It runs cool and is built like a tank! The first thing I did when I got it was add some handles to the front, so that I could get it in and out of my rack. Hopefully they don't void the warranty! How are the handles attached? Did you fabricate them yourself or buy them as is? They look great BTW.
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Post by alanj on Apr 5, 2011 12:03:52 GMT -5
I bought the handles at ACE Hardware and attached them to the side plates from the back using a couple of half inch counter sunk screws.
Looks quite good I think!
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Post by selkec on Apr 5, 2011 19:57:22 GMT -5
I like that look with the handles. Nice job. did you use a drill press to drill the holes?
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Post by alanj on Apr 6, 2011 11:03:11 GMT -5
I like that look with the handles. Nice job. did you use a drill press to drill the holes? No. I used a center punch to mark the hole locations and held the plate in a vice while I drilled.
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Post by alotoaltosaxes on Apr 21, 2011 21:48:03 GMT -5
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Post by rocketboy on Jun 1, 2011 11:43:33 GMT -5
probably the stupidest move i've ever heard of discontinuing this product.
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Post by jamrock on Jun 1, 2011 18:00:34 GMT -5
probably the stupidest move i've ever heard of discontinuing this product. The reasons Emotiva gave for discontinuing the UPA-7 are: (1) That it is not meeting projected sales and, (2) Audiophiles prefer lesser amplifier channels (with more power). What I find disconcerting about this is, that it appears that Emotiva believes that catering to 'audiophiles' is the way to go for business in the 21st century. My take on this thinking, is that audiophiles will create a small & limited' fanatical following, but not keep you in business. Ever wonder where those "Specialized, Audiophile A/V Merchants" are today. They are dead because they could not compete, and especially with the lower profit margins of the digital age. The so called specialized A/V merchants were great for personal attention that you could not and still cannot get from the B&M stores. But, they carried very limited and high priced brands and more importantly, could not meet the needs of the wider A/V market. I recalled back in 1988 that I went to one of these audiophile shops in FT. Lauderdale to demonstrate a stereo pair of Vendersteens. The same cultist, subjectivists were the sales persons. Asking me to listen to something that only they were hearing. (But I digress). After the demonstration, I went to Sound Advice and bought the pair for about $400.00 less. Yes, $400.00 is a lot of savings to me. What has this got to do with Emo's decision regarding the UPA-7? Well, most H/Ts are designed around using limited living space. Most folks who would graduate from the Receiver class to Separates, cannot afford or have the space for 7 mono block amplifiers (The UPA-5 is also discontinued). I certainly don't have that much room or the money to spend. Very soon, when I decide to upgrade, I will have to look elsewhere for a more reasonably powerful 7 channel amplifier. But, maybe they don't mind either. The way to go in the A/V business today is to make them small, powerful, multi-purpose, reliable and easy to operate.
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Post by Wideawake on Jun 1, 2011 20:23:58 GMT -5
Jamrock, I agree with you, however, you and I may not be representative of Emotiva's market. Another thought is that perhaps, in order to raise the prices, Emo may need to introduce a different model as there might be massive resistance to significantly raising the price on an existing model. so this might be a strategic move. But I do see your point and would further reinforce the argument by suggesting that the more channels, with moderate power, the better, especially for DIYers like myself and Theresa, who like to use electronic xo's.
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Post by jamrock on Jun 1, 2011 20:42:17 GMT -5
I would have no problem or concern if they were just going to make a different, higher priced models to replace the UPA-5 & the UPA-7. It is their 2nd reason that troubles me. And, the proposed XPR-7 is not the replacement. It seems that Emo is done with reasonabled powered & priced multi-channel power amplifiers. Those might be slated for their CI market only. So, I might have to get hooked upo with Mischief (lord of the fries) to get one. But then, he now lives on the other side of planet earth. Anyhow, it will be interesting later in the year when Emo rolls out their new models.
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Post by rocketboy on Jun 2, 2011 10:14:21 GMT -5
ya, and the funniest part about all this is people selling their USED UPA-7's for more than the sale price was. It's just nuts...and honestly I think Emotiva might be pricing themselves out of business. That's just my .02 of course.
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Post by jamrock on Jun 2, 2011 16:47:27 GMT -5
What Emo needs to do to increase sales of the UPA-7, is to market the UPA-7 to current and potential Receiver Buyers. Let them know that they can couple the excellent pre/amp section of their receivers to the UPA-7 to give them the performance that a lone receiver cannot provide. Make the UPA-7 available for purchase through all online A/V mags & websites. The reputation of the UPA-7 is good enough to warrant a modest price increase to accommodate utilizing the services of specialty dealers.
I apologize to anyone who is offended by my zeal for the UPA-7. But, I've owned several multi-channel amps in my very short H/T life. The most powerful being 250 wpc. None, has performed better that the UPA-7.
Here is something that I believe is very impressive about the UPA-7: On 05/30/11, I had a Memorial Day party that started at the beginning of the Indy 500. It ended approx 12:30AM on 05/31/11. It was extremely loud between 9:30PM - 12:30AM. When I finally turned it off, I used the back of my hand to test how hot it was. It was just warm, less than the temperature of my NY apartment would be back in the days.
Great product Emo. This is the product that says 'who you are as a company' To abandon it, is shortsighted. Find ways to extract more PR from this excellent product.
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Post by jedinite24 on Jun 2, 2011 17:28:20 GMT -5
What Emo needs to do to increase sales of the UPA-7, is to market the UPA-7 to current and potential Receiver Buyers. Let them know that they can couple the excellent pre/amp section of their receivers to the UPA-7 to give them the performance that a lone receiver cannot provide. Make the UPA-7 available for purchase through all online A/V mags & websites. The reputation of the UPA-7 is good enough to warrant a modest price increase to accommodate utilizing the services of specialty dealers. I apologize to anyone who is offended by my zeal for the UPA-7. But, I've owned several multi-channel amps in my very short H/T life. The most powerful being 250 wpc. None, has performed better that the UPA-7. Here is something that I believe is very impressive about the UPA-7: On 05/30/11, I had a Memorial Day party that started at the beginning of the Indy 500. It ended approx 12:30AM on 05/31/11. It was extremely loud between 9:30PM - 12:30AM. When I finally turned it off, I used the back of my hand to test how hot it was. It was just warm, less than the temperature of my NY apartment would be back in the days. Great product Emo. This is the product that says 'who you are as a company' To abandon it, is shortsighted. Find ways to extract more PR from this excellent product. It is great to see such a fan of the UPA-7. I wish more of you existed out there. I've had my UPA-7 for some time and have been enjoying it immensely. I had a Memorial Day party and lots of friends and family were over and were amazed at the quality of sound. When they saw what I had done to get the sound they were a little taken a back. (Lots of Bose and HTiB users so they didn't get the idea of separates.) All in all the UPA-7 was a hit. It is funny you mention the receiver & the UPA-7. That was my first configuration when I bought it. I had a Sony STR DG1000 receiver at the time and using the Sony's amplification section wasn't good enough. When I used it as preamp and added the UPA-7 things all around improved a lot. Well Emo has crunched the numbers and their efforts I guess are better served on other pieces of equipment. I don't remember the exact podcast where they talk about the discontinuation of the UPA series of amps but you should give it a listen if you haven't already. They talk about why the UPA series had to go.
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Post by jamrock on Jun 2, 2011 17:47:12 GMT -5
Yes, I have listened to the podcast several times. Please refer to my post #72 of this thread. It is without question that single channel amps will have more sales than multi-channels amps to complete a home theater of 5.1 or 7.1. It takes either 5 or 7 of them to build a H/T. It is a 7:1 advantage. It will cost you $2,443.00 to purchase 7 x UPA-1s compared to $799.00 for 1 x UPA-7. Seemingly, greater profit for Emo. However, when you compare how many would purchase a UPA-7 as against 7xUPA-1s, within the larger H/T market, the UPA-7 would surpass the UPA-1. I still believe that Emo's weak side is marketing.
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Post by Wideawake on Jun 2, 2011 18:11:47 GMT -5
I feel the same way about the IPS-1 as you guys feel about the UPA-7.
I bought an IPS-1 from a lounge member. I had no clue what a class H amp sounds like and I put down $1K (if I recall correctly) for this piece of equipment that I did not even know whether I would like or not.
Well, as it turned out, this thing is marvelous and I'll probably put it in my will. ;D The MPS-2s were still available if I recall but I did not need the extra power of the MPS amps. The IPS has more than sufficient power for my use.
Notice also that you don't see too many IPS-1s on sale anywhere. The one other unit that was sold on the lounge after I got mine, I bought on behalf of my brother and several people were upset that they did not get the opportunity to buy it. If you find one on sale in the future you'll notice that it does not stay on the market for more than an eye blink.
However, as good as the IPS-1 was, and it was very well reviewed too, it seems that Emotiva had a hard time selling it. But I think if they would have persisted in keeping the IPS-1 in their linup that Emo would have eventually had yet another hit item in their inventory.
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Post by RadTech on Jun 2, 2011 18:53:38 GMT -5
The UPA 7 was my first Emo purchase and I liked it so much I bought another one. I would have really liked to get my hands on a MPS 2 after I purchased a RPA 2.
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