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Post by bootman on Sept 8, 2014 13:42:59 GMT -5
To change subjects. Still waiting for my name to come up as well. Just currious to other users. Has anyone compared the XMC-1 processing the 5.1 vs the oppo 105 outputs to see which sounds better. This is a loaded question and here is why. The XMC has room correction while the Oppo does not. So can we assume that those who will go from this config with the Oppo 105 will NOT be using the XMC room correction? (either manually via PEQ or using Dirac) To say if one sounds better than another requires that both be equally judged under equal circumstances so that the answer is fair.
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Post by bootman on Sept 8, 2014 21:54:59 GMT -5
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Post by hemster on Sept 8, 2014 22:13:03 GMT -5
I saw that video and tried to follow similar steps to see if I can reproduce the issue. I do not have an analog source but that not withstanding, was not able to get any cross-talk. Perhaps others will chime in with their experiences.
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Post by bluescale on Sept 8, 2014 23:30:04 GMT -5
I saw that video and tried to follow similar steps to see if I can reproduce the issue. I do not have an analog source but that not withstanding, was not able to get any cross-talk. Perhaps others will chime in with their experiences. From my experience, there is no cross talk in the digital inputs. It's only in the analog section. I'm going to do a more exhaustive battery of test her in a few minutes.
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Post by hemster on Sept 8, 2014 23:33:30 GMT -5
I saw that video and tried to follow similar steps to see if I can reproduce the issue. I do not have an analog source but that not withstanding, was not able to get any cross-talk. Perhaps others will chime in with their experiences. From my experience, there is no cross talk in the digital inputs. It's only in the analog section. I'm going to do a more exhaustive battery of test her in a few minutes. That explains it. If there is an issue that can be replicated we should identify the steps to reproduce the flaw and certainly urge Emotiva to resolve it.
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Post by twism on Sept 9, 2014 16:20:33 GMT -5
What cable is everyone using for IR in? The Cable from my URC mrf260 is not working. It was working great on my denon 4311.
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Post by hemster on Sept 9, 2014 18:08:34 GMT -5
What cable is everyone using for IR in? The Cable from my URC mrf260 is not working. It was working great on my denon 4311. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk That is strange because I use a URC MRF-260 also and my cable in works fine. I'm using one the cables that came with the MRF-260 but I believe it's simply like a mono trigger cable.
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Post by twism on Sept 9, 2014 18:36:03 GMT -5
hemster,
it seems that me slightly moving my mrf-260 caused it to have a lot of interference, I have sorted that out. Just was odd a movement of like 1/2 inch caused it to go all wacky...
BTW, what code set are you using for your remote from the URC database...?
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Post by bluescale on Sept 14, 2014 23:27:46 GMT -5
Anyone try the headphone out? I finally had the chance to test the headphone out today, and it works exactly like it should. Once the headphones are plugged in, bass management, EQ and other speaker settings are ignored completely. Also, the option to engage multi channel modes go away, and you can select either stereo or reference stereo. I have some graphs I could post if people want to see them, but they are just boring straight lines (which is exactly what you'd want to see) . If there's anything specific to the headphone output anyone would like to have me test, please let me know. I'm happy to give it a go.
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Post by bootman on Sept 15, 2014 8:06:29 GMT -5
Anyone try the headphone out? I finally had the chance to test the headphone out today, and it works exactly like it should. Once the headphones are plugged in, bass management, EQ and other speaker settings are ignored completely. Also, the option to engage multi channel modes go away, and you can select either stereo or reference stereo. I have some graphs I could post if people want to see them, but they are just boring straight lines (which is exactly what you'd want to see) . If there's anything specific to the headphone output anyone would like to have me test, please let me know. I'm happy to give it a go. Awesome news. Again, a big THANK YOU for doing these tests!
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Post by nickwin on Sept 22, 2014 15:31:33 GMT -5
How flexible is the bass management on the XMC-1? Specifically does it have the ability to send bass information below the x/o point of my surrounds to my mains, and then send bass information below the (lower) x/o point of my mains to my subwoofer?
I have Magnepans which require some unorthodox bass management. In my case I want to cross over my smaller center channel and surrounds to my mains at about 150hz, then cross my mains over to my sub around 60hz. Its a tall order but Ive got to ask.
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Post by geebo on Sept 22, 2014 15:47:00 GMT -5
How flexible is the bass management on the XMC-1? Specifically does it have the ability to send bass information below the x/o point of my surrounds to my mains, and then send bass information below the (lower) x/o point of my mains to my subwoofer? I have Magnepans which require some unorthodox bass management. In my case I want to cross over my smaller center channel and surrounds to my mains at about 150hz, then cross my mains over to my sub around 60hz. Its a tall order but Ive got to ask. You may want to check with Emotive on that one. There is no specific setting for what you ask but it may operate that way by default.
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Post by nickwin on Sept 22, 2014 16:04:40 GMT -5
How flexible is the bass management on the XMC-1? Specifically does it have the ability to send bass information below the x/o point of my center to my mains, and then send bass information below the (lower) x/o point of my mains to my subwoofer? I have Magnepans which require somewhat unorthodox bass management. In my case I want to cross over my smaller center channel and surrounds to my mains at about 150hz, then cross my mains over to my sub around 60hz. Its a tall order but Ive got to ask. You may want to check with Emotive on that one. There is no specific setting for what you ask but it may operate that way by default. Ill shoot them an email. I think it would be a really cool feature if this was the default operation for the center channel specifically. My reasoning is it is not uncommon for a center channel to have less bass extension and output than main front speakers, so many people might want to set the crossover of your mains lower than their center. If you do this, the mains will almost always do a better job filling in that frequency range between the crossover of the center and the crossover of the fronts than a subwoofer would. I see two advantage this way, first, front speakers are always more similar in design, size, and timbre to the center speaker than a subwoofer. Secondly if you are crossing over your center above 80hz (or even slightly below) sounds are somewhat directional and your main speakers (which are already set up for stereo imaging) will be much more believable at creating the illusion that all the sound is coming from the center speaker than a subwoofer would which could potentially even be behind you.
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Post by geebo on Sept 22, 2014 17:02:45 GMT -5
You may want to check with Emotive on that one. There is no specific setting for what you ask but it may operate that way by default. Ill shoot them an email. I think it would be a really cool feature if this was the default operation for the center channel specifically. My reasoning is it is not uncommon for a center channel to have less bass extension and output than main front speakers, so you might want to set the crossover of your mains lower than your center. If you do this, the mains will almost always do a better job filling in that frequency range between the crossover of the center and the crossover of the fronts than a subwoofer would. I see two advantage this way, first, front speakers are always more similar in design, size, and timbre to the center speaker than a subwoofer. Secondly if you are crossing over your center above 80hz (or even slightly below) sounds are somewhat directional and your main speakers (which are already set up for stereo imaging) will be much more believable at creating the illusion that all the sound is coming from the center speaker than a subwoofer would which could potentially even be behind you. Try emailing Keith or Lonnie directly. Be sure to post the reply here. I'll bet others would be interested as well.
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Post by nickwin on Sept 23, 2014 19:55:50 GMT -5
Another bass management question. Does the XMC-1 have the option to use a different mains crossover point for stereo listening than multichannel? My Denon 3808 allows me to do this. I can set different distance, trim, crossover and subwoofer settings for 2 channel/direct modes and different settings for surround modes.
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Post by doc1963 on Sept 23, 2014 20:03:05 GMT -5
Another bass management question. Does the XMC-1 have the option to use a different mains crossover point for stereo listening than multichannel? My Denon 3808 allows me to do this. I can set different distance, trim, crossover and subwoofer settings for 2 channel/direct modes and different settings for surround modes. Yes. There are three independent speaker presets... Preset 1, Preset 2 and Dirac. Each input can be assigned one preset of your choosing.
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Post by novisnick on Sept 23, 2014 20:42:08 GMT -5
Another bass management question. Does the XMC-1 have the option to use a different mains crossover point for stereo listening than multichannel? My Denon 3808 allows me to do this. I can set different distance, trim, crossover and subwoofer settings for 2 channel/direct modes and different settings for surround modes. Yes. There are three independent speaker presets... Preset 1, Preset 2 and Dirac. Each input can be assigned one preset of your choosing. I really like the three set up options!! more good things to like!!
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Post by nickwin on Sept 24, 2014 10:44:56 GMT -5
Another bass management question. Does the XMC-1 have the option to use a different mains crossover point for stereo listening than multichannel? My Denon 3808 allows me to do this. I can set different distance, trim, crossover and subwoofer settings for 2 channel/direct modes and different settings for surround modes. Yes. There are three independent speaker presets... Preset 1, Preset 2 and Dirac. Each input can be assigned one preset of your choosing. Nice thanks. So is this input signal based or input type based? For example say I use my bluray player for stereo and discrete multi channel but use HDMI for both. Could I use one preset when the XMC1 is receiving a 2 channel from the bdp and another for multichannel signals? Or do I apply a preset to an input (say HDMI 1) and that input always has that preset regardless of mode?
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Post by bluescale on Sept 24, 2014 11:06:29 GMT -5
Nice thanks. So is this input signal based or input type based? For example say I use my bluray player for stereo and discrete multi channel but use HDMI for both. Could I use one preset when the XMC1 is receiving a 2 channel from the bdp and another for multichannel signals? Or do I apply a preset to an input (say HDMI 1) and that input always has that preset regardless of mode? You can set different processing modes based on signal type, but you don't get to specify different crossovers, etc...So, for HDMI1, you can tell it to default to Direct when it gets a 2 channel signal, and Surround when it gets a 5.1 signal. The remote offers a button to quickly switch between speaker presets. Because I do all my input switching at my video processor, I use this often. You might find this is the best way to go if you need two very different settings (such as different EQ settings) for the same input.
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Post by nickwin on Sept 24, 2014 11:32:48 GMT -5
Nice thanks. So is this input signal based or input type based? For example say I use my bluray player for stereo and discrete multi channel but use HDMI for both. Could I use one preset when the XMC1 is receiving a 2 channel from the bdp and another for multichannel signals? Or do I apply a preset to an input (say HDMI 1) and that input always has that preset regardless of mode? You can set different processing modes based on signal type, but you don't get to specify different crossovers, etc...So, for HDMI1, you can tell it to default to Direct when it gets a 2 channel signal, and Surround when it gets a 5.1 signal. The remote offers a button to quickly switch between speaker presets. Because I do all my input switching at my video processor, I use this often. You might find this is the best way to go if you need two very different settings (such as different EQ settings) for the same input. Cool, thanks for the explanation. Surprisingly my Denon 3808 does this automatically, I can set it to run full range when it gets a stereo signal and crossover at 80hz for multi (even if its the same HDMI input for both). A nice feature for sure but if I can get the same results on the XMC1 with the push of a button (changing presets) thats not so bad either.
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