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Post by majorloser on Nov 10, 2009 20:29:12 GMT -5
On the topic of only 2 sub woofer outputs, most people don't realize that Emotiva buffers there outputs so that you can have upto 6 cevices connected to a single output without negatively impacting the quality of the output signal. With the XMC-1 you could have 10 to 12 sub woofers running off of those 2 ouputs -- just use a Y-adaptor to keep adding more subs. I am not sure who would ever want to use that many subs, but I am sure there is someone who would give it a try. ;D I realize this, though I am sure many have not known this. For me I just like the fact that each sub could have its own connection. Just a macho thing to say my pre-amp has 3 sub outs and I use all of them ;D But if both sub outputs are individually and fully adjustable, that's a heck of a lot better than wye connectors.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2009 21:58:11 GMT -5
the XMC will be a wireless client just like your laptop. You will not need to have a PC running to make Pandora work.;D Thanks Bootman for clarifying that for me. ;D
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Post by emovac on Nov 11, 2009 1:38:19 GMT -5
The hot rodded analog audio, and internet radio are more important for me than numerous HDMI outlets or zones.
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Post by julien on Nov 11, 2009 7:29:35 GMT -5
I only need 2 HDMI in: Satellite, Blu-Ray and one out TV. What all are ya'll hooking up? I could see a game station for three or apple TV. Are you hooking up duplicate products? Why do you need the RS232 if they have USB?.... Please make it educational as I am still learning all this as well. Remember while you only have 2 HDMI components today you can't know for sure how many you will have when the XMC-1 becomes available (likely late 3th quarter/1st quarter 11). Also if you keep it 4 years how many HDMI components will you have in 2015? Just to give an idea I have 5 right now (BD, HD DVD, Sat., VUDU and DVD-A/SA CD) and don't even have a gaming console or Apple TV. That means if I added a PS3 I would have to droop one. 5 HDMI inputs is too few to make the XMC-1 even remotely future proof. It's obvious this is a pre-alpha preliminary design and hopefully Emotiva will see the need to add more HDMI inputs. Also while I have no use for RS232 it does have some advantages over USB. Like you can make long runs and make connections to other peripherals (not just a computer).
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Post by bootman on Nov 11, 2009 8:22:11 GMT -5
Is the headphone out and phono in equivalent to what is available in the USP-1? How about the stereo analog input? These might sway me back.
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Post by bootman on Nov 11, 2009 8:55:32 GMT -5
I only need 2 HDMI in: Satellite, Blu-Ray and one out TV. What all are ya'll hooking up? I could see a game station for three or apple TV. Are you hooking up duplicate products? Why do you need the RS232 if they have USB?.... Please make it educational as I am still learning all this as well. Remember while you only have 2 HDMI components today you can't know for sure how many you will have when the XMC-1 becomes available (likely late 3th quarter/1st quarter 11). Also if you keep it 4 years how many HDMI components will you have in 2015? Just to give an idea I have 5 right now (BD, HD DVD, Sat., VUDU and DVD-A/SA CD) and don't even have a gaming console or Apple TV. That means if I added a PS3 I would have to droop one. 5 HDMI inputs is too few to make the XMC-1 even remotely future proof. It's obvious this is a pre-alpha preliminary design and hopefully Emotiva will see the need to add more HDMI inputs. Also while I have no use for RS232 it does have some advantages over USB. Like you can make long runs and make connections to other peripherals (not just a computer). I have the following HDMI sources: 1) DVR 2) Bluray 3) DVD Changer 4) Xbox 5) Sling Catcher I'll be maxed out right off the bat.
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Post by clorets123 on Nov 11, 2009 10:11:59 GMT -5
What the hell is a Venice 6.2 streaming engine and Pandora. Can someone explain in senior citizen language? ;D no idea what the Venice 6.3 streaming engine is, but Pandora is aaaaawwwwesome!!!! www.pandora.com/I could be wrong, but Pandora does not work in Canada. It used to work but now you need to use a US proxy to hide your location. I don't think it will be possible to use this feature outside USA.
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Post by Ruiner46 on Nov 11, 2009 14:18:11 GMT -5
It appears that the Analog Devices DAC/ACD's have been dropped from the XMC-1, and so it will be using the same CS42518 as the UMC-1. Is this correct? Also, I'm assuming that the volume control is done in the digital domain, requiring all analog inputs to be converted to digital and back (at high resolution). Is this correct? Very interested in the answers to these questions, along with any other information about the analog output section...
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Post by Trey on Nov 11, 2009 14:32:50 GMT -5
I have the following HDMI sources: 1) DVR 2) Bluray 3) DVD Changer 4) Xbox 5) Sling Catcher I'll be maxed out right off the bat. You can also run the HDMI from the DVR and DVD changer to the TV and the audio to the XMC-1. You can use the Optical/ Coax audio for the DVR and DVD player. Technically, the only reason to send HDMI audio to the XMC is to decode the high res audio. Today, the DVR and DVD player don't do anything more than Dolby Digital/ DTS. Use a Harmony-one remote to do the switching = hassle free. My current AVR doesn't have HDMI and I run the HDMI video from my DVR/ Blu Ray and HD-DVD to the TV. Optical audio for the DVR and HD-DVD and 6 channel audio for Blu ray. The Harmony one is a wife life saver. ;D
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Post by bootman on Nov 11, 2009 15:16:02 GMT -5
I have the following HDMI sources: 1) DVR 2) Bluray 3) DVD Changer 4) Xbox 5) Sling Catcher I'll be maxed out right off the bat. You can also run the HDMI from the DVR and DVD changer to the TV and the audio to the XMC-1. You can use the Optical/ Coax audio for the DVR and DVD player. Technically, the only reason to send HDMI audio to the XMC is to decode the high res audio. Today, the DVR and DVD player don't do anything more than Dolby Digital/ DTS. Use a Harmony-one remote to do the switching = hassle free. My current AVR doesn't have HDMI and I run the HDMI video from my DVR/ Blu Ray and HD-DVD to the TV. Optical audio for the DVR and HD-DVD and 6 channel audio for Blu ray. The Harmony one is a wife life saver. ;D I do use a harmony now (880) All current devices go to a DVDO edge for proper video scaling/deinterlacing. Optical out from the edge currently goes to my LMC and 2ch audio is passed to by display via one HDMI connection. I can have just simple TV viewing via the set's speakers or full surround with the LMC for all sources. I chose not to go via multiple inputs on the display because of the superior handling of video sources rather than just letting the TV do it.
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Post by sbavnut on Nov 11, 2009 15:18:48 GMT -5
Huge difference on the video front -- from the Feb 2009 specs.
They dropped the 2nd Zone (independent) video once they realized how HOT the processor would run. No wonder, no one else has a processor with two independent video outs...
Also, the deletion of the "hot-rodded" analog section is disappointing.
I also see that the microphone is still at the back of the unit.
Basically, this is a UMC-1 + XLR connections + a few bells and whistles....
I am almost certain that I will stick with the UMC-1
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Post by robfive on Nov 11, 2009 15:31:31 GMT -5
I have the following HDMI sources: 1) DVR 2) Bluray 3) DVD Changer 4) Xbox 5) Sling Catcher I'll be maxed out right off the bat. You can also run the HDMI from the DVR and DVD changer to the TV and the audio to the XMC-1. You can use the Optical/ Coax audio for the DVR and DVD player. Technically, the only reason to send HDMI audio to the XMC is to decode the high res audio. Today, the DVR and DVD player don't do anything more than Dolby Digital/ DTS. Use a Harmony-one remote to do the switching = hassle free. My current AVR doesn't have HDMI and I run the HDMI video from my DVR/ Blu Ray and HD-DVD to the TV. Optical audio for the DVR and HD-DVD and 6 channel audio for Blu ray. The Harmony one is a wife life saver. ;D Aside from high-res audio HDMI also helps out with cable management, which is a big issue for me. Getting rid of another 5-8 cables is huge. I have an open rack in the living room and keeping it from looking like a rat's nest even with custom length cables is no small feat. If I can use an HDMI connection I will just to cut down on excess cables. Thankfully, I do not have more than 5 HDMI devices at this time.
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Post by robfive on Nov 11, 2009 15:35:43 GMT -5
Huge difference on the video front -- from the Feb 2009 specs. They dropped the 2nd Zone (independent) video once they realized how HOT the processor would run. Is this speculation or did someone tell you this? It's hard to imagine it would get hotter than a typical Onkyo receiver. ;D
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Post by bigred7078 on Nov 11, 2009 16:37:26 GMT -5
Also, the deletion of the "hot-rodded" analog section is disappointing. Agreed, but if they did drop it i'm sure it is because they figured they would cannibalize their pre-amp sales...
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Post by julien on Nov 11, 2009 18:39:51 GMT -5
5 HDMI inputs won't be enough for me (since I have 5 already) so unless the spec is changed back I may have to go another route even though I've been looking forward to the XMC-1 (forever it seems). By the time the XMC-1 hits the market $200 receivers will likely have more HDMI inputs.
EDIT: Just looked and all of Pioneer's Elite receivers have 5 or more HDMI inputs. Come on Emotiva and please make the XMC-1 more cutting edge and have at least 8 HDMI inputs (one on front too).
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Post by roadrunner on Nov 11, 2009 19:51:06 GMT -5
I notice that many of you are continuing to think that Emotiva has "removed the hot rodded analog" in the latest XMC-1 feature list. They haven't, you just did not connect the wording that was used to the fact it is still included. The following sentence was in the middle of the feature list:
"Professional balanced (XLR) line outputs on main 7.1 channels with fully discrete balanced line driver stages for exceptional fidelity and high common mode rejection."
"...fully discrete balanced line driver stages for exceptional fidelity and high common mode rejection" is Geek Speak for hot rodded analog. The line driver stages and the common mode rejection are the key phrases that identify the THAT CORPORATION circuitry that provides the "HOT RODDED ANALOG" performance.
Come on guys, lets not start jumping to conclusions at every turn. Remember this is the first real stab they have made in trying to describe a real XMC-1 pre/pro. Also, the back plane drawing was a "quick and dirty" rendering by Lonnie to give us an idea of its layout. They rushed to give us something to look at so give them some slack already. You should know, by now, Emotiva will not deliver a crippled pre/pro. The XMC-1 is an exceptionally feature rich pre/pro that will set new standards for its performance, sound quality and build quality -- all Hallmarks of Emotiva products.
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Post by bigred7078 on Nov 11, 2009 20:27:29 GMT -5
I notice that many of you are continuing to think that Emotiva has "removed the hot rodded analog" in the latest XMC-1 feature list. They haven't, you just did not connect the wording that was used to the fact it is still included. The following sentence was in the middle of the feature list: "Professional balanced (XLR) line outputs on main 7.1 channels with fully discrete balanced line driver stages for exceptional fidelity and high common mode rejection.""...fully discrete balanced line driver stages for exceptional fidelity and high common mode rejection" is Geek Speak for hot rodded analog. The line driver stages and the common mode rejection are the key phrases that identify the THAT CORPORATION circuitry that provides the "HOT RODDED ANALOG" performance. Come on guys, lets not start jumping to conclusions at every turn. Remember this is the first real stab they have made in trying to describe a real XMC-1 pre/pro. Also, the back plane drawing was a "quick and dirty" rendering by Lonnie to give us an idea of its layout. They rushed to give us something to look at so give them some slack already. You should know, by now, Emotiva will not deliver a crippled pre/pro. The XMC-1 is an exceptionally feature rich pre/pro that will set new standards for its performance, sound quality and build quality -- all Hallmarks of Emotiva products. but what does XLR line OUTS have to do with hot rodded analog section ? That was just a fancy way of saying that XLR's can have less noise.
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Post by electroman on Nov 11, 2009 20:39:14 GMT -5
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Post by roadrunner on Nov 11, 2009 20:57:21 GMT -5
Steve said "but what does XLR line OUTS have to do with hot rodded analog section ? That was just a fancy way of saying that XLR's can have less noise."
The best way to answer that question is for you to read the information on the THAT CORP web site. Just click on the links in Electroman's reply.
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Post by Trey on Nov 11, 2009 20:59:37 GMT -5
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