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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2009 20:51:58 GMT -5
With the XMC-1, we are looking for..... exceptionally high two channel analog signal quality. We believe that the XMC-1 will rival the finest analog preamplifier's in two channel mode Not to get into semantics here about the word "rival." However, I read this to mean that those buying the XMC-1 should have two channel analog performance that is equal to or extremely close to (little if any audible difference?) the performance level of the USP-1. This could be of importance to those deciding between waiting for the XMC-1 or going with the UMC-1/USP-1 combo. Any thoughts kids? ;D
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Post by mysterymachine on Nov 13, 2009 21:05:08 GMT -5
Dann, first of all, thank you, I really respect the approach you (Emotiva) took here. Important question that will determine my short/mid term purchase: Say I buy a UMC or XMC when they become available, can I then use the 40% off on the dual independant HDMI box coming in the future?? The answer to that will determine if I buy a UMC/XMC in the near future or just get a midlevel receiver to limp along until the independant dream machine (Right now I am using a really crappy receiver loaned to me from a friend as mine died last summer) If that will be in the official upgrade path Emotiva just scored a lot from me as I'll buy a UMC or XMC + XPA/UPA amp now, make do without dual independant for now, then when the dual independant box comes out buy that one and move the UMC/XMC to the bedroom setup. Wow, suddenly now I may end up buying 2 processors and 2 multichannel amps. Everybody wins - I get the dual independant I've always dreamed about and Emotiva sells 2x the gear
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Post by RSavage on Nov 13, 2009 21:09:36 GMT -5
Nice redesign......The UMC will hold me over, but I'm glad I'm on the XMC list !!
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Post by jvgillow on Nov 13, 2009 21:12:19 GMT -5
Yeah as long as we are making wish list #2, I think aux HDMI and calibration mic on the front would be swell.
Hopefully Audyssey makes it into that 3rd super secret Emotiva processor.
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Post by bootman on Nov 13, 2009 21:16:01 GMT -5
With the XMC-1, we are looking for..... exceptionally high two channel analog signal quality. We believe that the XMC-1 will rival the finest analog preamplifier's in two channel mode Not to get into semantics here about the word "rival." However, I read this to mean that those buying the XMC-1 should have two channel analog performance that is equal to or extremely close to (little if any audible difference?) the performance level of the USP-1. This could be of importance to those deciding between waiting for the XMC-1 or going with the UMC-1/USP-1 combo. Any thoughts kids? ;D The USP would be for those that need more than just one analog out source and one phono source for extreme two channel bliss. But if all you have is say a ERC and a Rega turntable, then the XMC may be all you need. Of course I'm assuming that the balanced 2ch input and phono inpunt have a direct wire with gain connection to the left and right outputs when selected. Humm, how would the sub be handled in this case?
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Post by mysterymachine on Nov 13, 2009 21:28:01 GMT -5
Yeah as long as we are making wish list #2, I think aux HDMI and calibration mic on the front would be swell. Hopefully Audyssey makes it into that 3rd super secret Emotiva processor. +1 though we have yet to see/hear what EMO-Q offers. Perhaps by the time the 3rd super secret box is in full development the Trinnov problems will be sorted out so we can do a Trinnov vs Audyssey vs EMO-Q cage match, winner is included in future emotiva unit.
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Post by dmraupp on Nov 13, 2009 21:44:34 GMT -5
I am just really unsure about the XMC-1 being close to double the price of the UMC-1,is there really enough separation of the two products to warrant such a price increase?,I am still considering the USP-1/UMC-1 as a real option for what could end up being a $500+ difference,I would like to know if I would really be missing any SQ going this route versus buying the XMC-1.
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Post by Animo on Nov 13, 2009 22:00:23 GMT -5
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Post by bootman on Nov 13, 2009 22:18:51 GMT -5
I am just really unsure about the XMC-1 being close to double the price of the UMC-1,is there really enough separation of the two products to warrant such a price increase?,I am still considering the USP-1/UMC-1 as a real option for what could end up being a $500+ difference,I would like to know if I would really be missing any SQ going this route versus buying the XMC-1. The $699 price of the UMC will not last. I won't be surprised if it goes up to $899 next year. The dollar has fallen too much to keep that price for long.
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Post by sounder on Nov 13, 2009 22:54:06 GMT -5
I think it sounds perfect. I really like the pure analog path, and I'm really happy to see that it can be used as balanced or unbalanced. For me, I'll connect my turntable's tube pre-amp into that, and it doesn't have balanced output. I assume that pure analog path could go to zone 2, right?
Awesome work, guys! I'm on the preorder list already... can I expect it to arrive this month? ;-)
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Post by benzone on Nov 13, 2009 22:55:36 GMT -5
I assume that the Reference Analog Outs are a direct substitute for the 7.1 fronts....
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Post by emovac on Nov 13, 2009 22:57:25 GMT -5
The superior audio path and internet radio capability rocks. thanks
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Post by oscartheclimber on Nov 13, 2009 23:14:21 GMT -5
I am just really unsure about the XMC-1 being close to double the price of the UMC-1,is there really enough separation of the two products to warrant such a price increase?,I am still considering the USP-1/UMC-1 as a real option for what could end up being a $500+ difference,I would like to know if I would really be missing any SQ going this route versus buying the XMC-1. This really is the $1000,000 question. If I recall the Emofest reviewers mentioned a few shortcomings with the UMC. If these issues are addressed then I think the extra $$$ would be worth it.
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Post by Lonnie on Nov 13, 2009 23:17:30 GMT -5
I should again, say, that the words typed were mostly by Big Dan, sitting next to me, along the lines of 'Take a letter, Miss Jones'...I added embellishments, but not much.
As far as cost, as always, we will be very economical. But please keep in mind that you cannot simply comare this to the UMC-1 and add a few hundred bucks. The price on the UMC-1, $699, reflects a price we committed to, and not a practical price as such. We are honoring it, but it is not reflective of the cost of the unit.
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Post by bigred7078 on Nov 13, 2009 23:20:26 GMT -5
Seriously how many companies would change a products specs in just a matter of days because of the customers wants/needs! You guys rock! The updated specs looks great! i really have no complaints left Dann, any renderings of what the front will possibly look like?
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Post by Lonnie on Nov 13, 2009 23:27:36 GMT -5
Seriously how many companies would change a products specs in just a matter of days because of the customers wants/needs! You guys rock! The updated specs looks great! i really have no complaints left Dann, any renderings of what the front will possibly look like? Black, with silver trim. Ok, seriously...Lonnie has a draft. Similar to the UMC-1, but obviously, with more going on...including a more complicated 'quadrant' set of control buttons. Here's the big question: You guys still want a volume knob, or volume buttons, like the MMC had? Knob? No Knob?
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Post by bigred7078 on Nov 13, 2009 23:32:13 GMT -5
Seriously how many companies would change a products specs in just a matter of days because of the customers wants/needs! You guys rock! The updated specs looks great! i really have no complaints left Dann, any renderings of what the front will possibly look like? Black, with silver trim. Ok, seriously...Lonnie has a draft. Similar to the UMC-1, but obviously, with more going on...including a more complicated 'quadrant' set of control buttons. Here's the big question: You guys still want a volume knob, or volume buttons, like the MMC had? Knob? No Knob? i vote for a knob...
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Post by cwoodhall on Nov 13, 2009 23:59:57 GMT -5
i don't think i could say that with a straight face
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Post by roadrunner on Nov 14, 2009 0:11:18 GMT -5
Seriously how many companies would change a products specs in just a matter of days because of the customers wants/needs! You guys rock! The updated specs looks great! i really have no complaints left Dann, any renderings of what the front will possibly look like? Black, with silver trim. Ok, seriously...Lonnie has a draft. Similar to the UMC-1, but obviously, with more going on...including a more complicated 'quadrant' set of control buttons. Here's the big question: You guys still want a volume knob, or volume buttons, like the MMC had? Knob? No Knob? I would like to see a rendering of the two options before casting my vote. Depending upon how the volume control integrates into the appearance and the functionality of the unit, will determine which way I vote. I can see advantages and disadvantages to each solution. Once I see how it looks and how it would impact day-to-day usage, it will be easier to make up my mind. ;D ;D After all, most changes in volume will probably be via the remote control. What impact would each choice have upon the smooth, precise usage when adjusting the volume from the remote control? Decisions, decisions???
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Post by emovac on Nov 14, 2009 0:19:11 GMT -5
I would prefer a knob, which would provide for making precision volume adjustments. I never much cared for the MMC-1 up/down direct volume control, and used the remote to adjust the MMC-1 volume for the most part.
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