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Post by PapaJac on Mar 29, 2010 17:28:31 GMT -5
couple of weeks, they are testing to make sure everything works. if it doesn't, it is user error or your room!   I was told that a couple of weeks ago..........at this point I say, email people like me a beta of the FW update.......Ill take a beta version of the new FW over the present update I have now....... That's a good one ;D but "What if" they send you the beta FW and it damage your UMC-1. Who's going to pay for your device? Or if it works nice, you are going to be the envy of those who does not have it. In my case I'm jealous either way (with or without new FW) because I don't even received my email order even though I'm in the pre-order list since Oct 31, 2009.  |
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Post by mlkmgr on Mar 29, 2010 17:43:51 GMT -5
ntrain, they are checking and re-checking so this one is perfect....just like the last one! papjac, why not call, posting on a forum........sorry, i just wanted to post it first so everyone can +1 me for the next page or so and then offer an explanation as to why it is better to call and why they +1'ed me.....  |
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Post by Mike Ronesia on Mar 29, 2010 17:44:59 GMT -5
Mine was shipped today.  |
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Post by LCSeminole on Mar 29, 2010 17:48:52 GMT -5
Mine was shipped today. Mike, That makes two of us and I bet I get mine before you get yours. ;D |
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Post by threxx on Mar 29, 2010 17:51:47 GMT -5
Mine was shipped today. With the new firmware? |
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Post by Mike Ronesia on Mar 29, 2010 17:53:32 GMT -5
I won't take that bet. I should have it by next week if our FedEx guy with the old beatup pickup truck can find me. We don't have addresses here.  |
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Post by ntrain42 on Mar 29, 2010 17:54:43 GMT -5
I was told that a couple of weeks ago..........at this point I say, email people like me a beta of the FW update.......Ill take a beta version of the new FW over the present update I have now....... That's a good one ;D but "What if" they send you the beta FW and it damage your UMC-1. Who's going to pay for your device? Or if it works nice, you are going to be the envy of those who does not have it. In my case I'm jealous either way (with or without new FW) because I don't even received my email order even though I'm in the pre-order list since Oct 31, 2009. You were on the preorder list since Oct.  ?? I didnt sign up till end of Nov./ beginning of Dec...........how did you get passed over? 40% member maybe? |
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Post by LCSeminole on Mar 29, 2010 17:57:48 GMT -5
Mine was shipped today. With the new firmware? No, this shipment doesn't have the new firmware. |
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Post by RayoVac on Mar 29, 2010 18:56:57 GMT -5
More of the same....  |
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Post by hemster on Mar 29, 2010 19:32:42 GMT -5
^ Only if one has returned one's and didn't/couldn't do the update before and aren't willing to try it now. Folks do have the option to wait till the next batch if they really want to.  |
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Post by Mike Ronesia on Mar 29, 2010 20:37:50 GMT -5
I chose to take it as is because 1. I want it and 2. I have a very simple setup and 3. I want to see what the first version of EmoQ thinks of my room.
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Post by artiek on Mar 29, 2010 20:59:05 GMT -5
Masochistic Mike! ;D
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Post by visiter555 on Mar 29, 2010 21:02:25 GMT -5
I currently manage the code department for a large multi-nationl. I used to be a coder writing the original code/fixes with many, many, many others and now I review and approve the code for initial realese for testing. The first line that we follow is that we have internal QA test the devices in fully functional real world situations. We have many variations of many of our major customers environments. Secondly once it passes this level of testing (and believe me it does not go beyond this stage until QAS signs off as 100% working) the revised firmware goes out to selected test sites in a full production environment with a full report weekly (hourly if there are issues) back to our QAS section who then duplicates the customer environment and retests. Issues come back to my section to recode whereas unable to duplicate items goes back to the customer for 100% confirmation on the environemnt and rechecking the complaint. Go back to step 2 and repeat. Once my Department gets the full description of the situation and the issue caused we recode and go BACK TO STEP 1. We also continue to collect reports from QA and the other beta testers and continue to rewrite. Once we complete Steps 1 & 2 with ZERO issues raised by QA/Customers we freeze the code and announce the product for release and send the product to our outsourced technical writers for final documentation. I have worked for three multi-nationals and all follow the same process. This process must be documented for all steps to get ISO certification. I did not include sending out production run samples to UL/CSA etc prior to selling product 1 until we get our certifications. I know many of my competitors also follow the same ISO/QA processes before one $1 is taken in exchange for a product. I don't know Emotiva's QA process or if they are ISO certified. ISO actuall means nothing except that you have fully documented processes for everything that you do in place. I can not see how these process could be rigorously followed and a product like the UMC-1 released in the state it was sold. Again, this is only my response to your request...no hidden messages behind it. Any products currently out in the market that we would know? Any of them audio/video based? Zippo in the A/V market. More into the operating of buildings & infrastructure line of work these days. A long time ago I did accounting/scheduling software for legal offices, and before that I retired from the military side after doing my 20 dating back before the DG systems and System 36s and before that...abacuses!!! lol |
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Post by jr1414 on Mar 29, 2010 21:26:38 GMT -5
I take it since they are now shipping units without the upgraded firmware that they must have hit some snags in their testing.
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Post by moodyman on Mar 29, 2010 22:26:25 GMT -5
I want to see what the first version of EmoQ thinks of my room. If it doesn't operate correctly to begin with whats the point?? |
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Post by RayoVac on Mar 29, 2010 23:11:38 GMT -5
I want to see what the first version of EmoQ thinks of my room. If it doesn't operate correctly to begin with whats the point?? Exactly... There are a few folks posting positive results with EmoQ, but LOTS of folks have posted it did not work for them. I had the similar results... missed big time on distances, sizes, phase etc. Funny thing same exact room, same exact speakers, wiring etc. Audessey XT nailed it! Distances on all 7 were correct, Sizes were pretty spot on (it showed my back surrounds FR to be 100hz instead of 80). And it did not report the false phase issue that the UMC-1 did. I am not sure why one would even want to screw with the current firmware if an option existed to get or wait for the new release. Of course as long as this "two weeks" has been... I suppose I would just get it now if I had that burning desire I could not control. |
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Post by moe on Mar 29, 2010 23:40:02 GMT -5
Just having a discussion with a fellow UMC owner this evening,two actually,and listening to some concerts.We discussed how great the UMC sounds and how odd it is that for some it's heaven and some it's hell.No EQ required for great audio in my room.
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Post by RayoVac on Mar 29, 2010 23:51:55 GMT -5
Just having a discussion with a fellow UMC owner this evening,two actually,and listening to some concerts.We discussed how great the UMC sounds and how odd it is that for some it's heaven and some it's hell.No EQ required for great audio in my room. Yeah... that is the funny thing. I can't explain how the experience can be so good for one and so bad for another. For me unfortunately it was not stable enough to be "wife/family friendly" If the firmware had been being released in a more timely fashion and fixes seen happening... I would have hung on to it. But... these long spans with no updates from the staff and the ever increasing "two weeks. its almost there" stuff. I had to find something that "just worked" |
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Post by Mike Ronesia on Mar 30, 2010 0:19:44 GMT -5
I can set up the room manually until I get the new FW and will only have 3 sources for now, ERC-1, Samsung BDP (my only hdmi source) and audio coming from the tv via optic. I don't think I'll have many of the issues others are reporting with DVRs and other boxes.
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Post by moe on Mar 30, 2010 0:47:35 GMT -5
Just having a discussion with a fellow UMC owner this evening,two actually,and listening to some concerts.We discussed how great the UMC sounds and how odd it is that for some it's heaven and some it's hell.No EQ required for great audio in my room. Yeah... that is the funny thing. I can't explain how the experience can be so good for one and so bad for another. For me unfortunately it was not stable enough to be "wife/family friendly" If the firmware had been being released in a more timely fashion and fixes seen happening... I would have hung on to it. But... these long spans with no updates from the staff and the ever increasing "two weeks. its almost there" stuff. I had to find something that "just worked" If it can't work for ya you had no choice,it is unfortunate.It works great for some of us.I actually have no issues with my current settings.The only one that would effect me is the surr level reset on start up,but my speakers are all at the same 0 level setting using avia anyway. |
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