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Post by sharkman on Dec 5, 2010 23:03:55 GMT -5
And the "improved" Wadia 171i (upgraded power supply, upgraded connectors, metal remote, iPhone compatible, optical out in addition to coaxial) is $600! The Onkyo ND-S1 is not available in the US, but some have ordered it directly from Japan for ~ $250. Used Wadia 170i sell pretty quickly on Audiogon for $250 - $300. Steve I actually have a Sony ipod dock (with a 2.1speaker system) that has a USB 2.0 output that would plug into the XDA, except the XDA is of course also USB 2.0 and there are no cables that have this configuration at all(2.0 to 2.0 or "B" to "B"). All cables have USB "A" on one end and USB "B" on the other. Weird. Anyway, I've sourced a USB adapter that will adapt the "A" end into a "B". I don't know if it will work, however. I am obviously not a computer techie, but there must be a reason why all USB cables are constructed this way. |
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Post by oscartheclimber on Dec 6, 2010 9:08:23 GMT -5
Too bad about the driver - but honestly not unexpected.
AQVox.com have a custom driver that may work - for about $100. (free download and test/trial before purchasing). Realtek have one for $70.
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Post by sanjaygolf on Dec 9, 2010 18:34:40 GMT -5
I have a general question about SQ when my comp is connected via usb to the XDA-1. Is it supposed to sound like crap? Flac files playing on foobar with WASAPI output sound considerably worse than a CD played on my HD-DVD player connected to the DAC via optical.
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Post by jlafrenz on Dec 9, 2010 19:16:33 GMT -5
I have a general question about SQ when my comp is connected via usb to the XDA-1. Is it supposed to sound like crap? Flac files playing on foobar with WASAPI output sound considerably worse than a CD played on my HD-DVD player connected to the DAC via optical. It isn't supposed to, but it probably does. Not because of the DAC, but because of WASAPI. What OS are you running? Every USB DAC I have tried using Vista and WASAPI have had issues such as crackling, hissing, popping. These issues are not present when using optical though. If USB is your only option then try ASIO4ALL with foobar. |
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Post by bobbyt on Dec 9, 2010 19:48:45 GMT -5
Sorry if this has already been answered (I didn't see it anywhere), but does anyone know which chip the XDA is using between the TI TAS1020 and the older PCM270X?
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Post by jlafrenz on Dec 9, 2010 21:35:44 GMT -5
Every USB DAC I have tried using Vista and WASAPI have had issues such as crackling, hissing, popping. These issues are not present when using optical though. Interesting. You could also select the standard Direct Sound driver from within Foobar (I know it won't bypass the internal Windows mixer) just to see if there is a difference. Steve Direct Sound and ASIO4ALL both work fine with via USB. It just seems to be WASAPI that has issues. |
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Post by Topend on Dec 10, 2010 4:58:36 GMT -5
I can't get any sound from the XDA-1 connected to a Windows 7 Toshiba laptop via USB. I have tried Jriver, Foobar and Media Monkey all with ASIO4ALL, kernel and WASAPI.
The XDA-1 works with my Wadia ipod dock via digital coaxial.
Any suggestions?
Dave.
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Post by Topend on Dec 10, 2010 6:54:33 GMT -5
I know you've probably read through this thread and I know this seems too basic, but have you either made the USB Output device the default in Control Panel > Sound > Playback tabOR in JRiver Media Center selected USB as the audio device under Tools > Options > Audio Output > Output mode settings? In JRiver, after selecting the audio driver (ASIO, Kernel Streaming, WASAPI, etc.) from the Output mode dropdown, the Device also needs to be selected from the Output mode settings dropdown. The default is (Default) device, so you either need to have set USB as the default in Control Panel or choose USB here. Again, sorry if you're way beyond this. Steve I will recheck it all in the morning. It's getting late here and I'm ready for some sleep. Thanks, Dave. |
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Post by merlinwerks on Dec 10, 2010 10:37:02 GMT -5
It isn't supposed to, but it probably does. Not because of the DAC, but because of WASAPI. What OS are you running? Every USB DAC I have tried using Vista and WASAPI have had issues such as crackling, hissing, popping. These issues are not present when using optical though. If USB is your only option then try ASIO4ALL with foobar. FWIW, I'm using Win 7/WASAPI/USB for my primary HTPC source with zero issues. |
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Post by jlafrenz on Dec 10, 2010 10:42:53 GMT -5
It isn't supposed to, but it probably does. Not because of the DAC, but because of WASAPI. What OS are you running? Every USB DAC I have tried using Vista and WASAPI have had issues such as crackling, hissing, popping. These issues are not present when using optical though. If USB is your only option then try ASIO4ALL with foobar. FWIW, I'm using Win 7/WASAPI/USB for my primary HTPC source with zero issues. The issues I found have been with Vista. I do have a Windows 7 PC, but do not use it for music at all. I can set it up for this and see if any issues are present. I shall report back. |
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Post by rogerwilco on Dec 10, 2010 11:28:36 GMT -5
Has anyone found the driver Eric used to get USB to pass 24/96 and 24/192? Right now, using XP and ASIO4all the only options are 16/44.1 and 16/48.
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Post by Topend on Dec 10, 2010 21:49:47 GMT -5
I know you've probably read through this thread and I know this seems too basic, but have you either made the USB Output device the default in Control Panel > Sound > Playback tabOR in JRiver Media Center selected USB as the audio device under Tools > Options > Audio Output > Output mode settings? In JRiver, after selecting the audio driver (ASIO, Kernel Streaming, WASAPI, etc.) from the Output mode dropdown, the Device also needs to be selected from the Output mode settings dropdown. The default is (Default) device, so you either need to have set USB as the default in Control Panel or choose USB here. Again, sorry if you're way beyond this. Steve I will recheck it all in the morning. It's getting late here and I'm ready for some sleep. Thanks, Dave. OK, I have checked this and I recall checking this many times yesterday and trying all sorts of settings. Did the same this morning. Still no good. Cheers, Dave. |
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Post by jlafrenz on Dec 10, 2010 22:38:02 GMT -5
I can't get any sound from the XDA-1 connected to a Windows 7 Toshiba laptop via USB. I have tried Jriver, Foobar and Media Monkey all with ASIO4ALL, kernel and WASAPI. The XDA-1 works with my Wadia ipod dock via digital coaxial. Any suggestions? Dave. In foobar2000, have you gone to preferences - output - ASIO Devices - Add New - Configure. This should allow you to adjust the settings for ASIO and the particular device. Once that it setup correctly, go back and select output to the ASIO device you just configured. |
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Post by Topend on Dec 11, 2010 5:06:21 GMT -5
I can't get any sound from the XDA-1 connected to a Windows 7 Toshiba laptop via USB. I have tried Jriver, Foobar and Media Monkey all with ASIO4ALL, kernel and WASAPI. The XDA-1 works with my Wadia ipod dock via digital coaxial. Any suggestions? Dave. In foobar2000, have you gone to preferences - output - ASIO Devices - Add New - Configure. This should allow you to adjust the settings for ASIO and the particular device. Once that it setup correctly, go back and select output to the ASIO device you just configured. OK..... I have it working but only at a max 48KHz. I did this by search asio USB driver. If anyone can provide a link to ASIO2 that works at 96kHz I would be very grateful. Dave |
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Post by Topend on Dec 11, 2010 6:58:58 GMT -5
This is driving me nuts. From what I can see ASIO is only good for 48KHz.
I'm not prepared to pay for it unless I can get 96KHz to the XDA-1.
Dave.
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Post by rogerwilco on Dec 11, 2010 7:20:28 GMT -5
ASIO isn't your problem, it is the USB drivers. According to Lonnie Eric had it working up to 24/192 with some third party USB drivers he found on the web. Hopefully they will share that info with us. Rght now, with USB and ASIO, 48 is as good as it gets.
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Post by oscartheclimber on Dec 11, 2010 9:03:24 GMT -5
This is driving me nuts. From what I can see ASIO is only good for 48KHz. I'm not prepared to pay for it unless I can get 96KHz to the XDA-1. Dave. I didn't read back through your posts, but did you see if there was an update for your current driver? Also - what version of windows are you running? |
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Post by Topend on Dec 11, 2010 12:26:35 GMT -5
This is driving me nuts. From what I can see ASIO is only good for 48KHz. I'm not prepared to pay for it unless I can get 96KHz to the XDA-1. Dave. I didn't read back through your posts, but did you see if there was an update for your current driver? Also - what version of windows are you running? I found an ASIO driver but have not found anything better. Can someone provide a link? Running windows 7. Dave. |
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Post by jlafrenz on Dec 11, 2010 12:59:50 GMT -5
I found something for the Wavelength DAC that talks about higher rates and has a driver. You might give it a try. I'm not at home right Now or I would try it myself. You will probably need to uninstall the current driver and device first. www.usbdacs.com/hs24192/hs24192.html |
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Post by Topend on Dec 11, 2010 14:06:25 GMT -5
If the DAC USB receiving chip is limited to 16/48, no driver will get around those limitations. Higher resolution files either won't play or will play and be downsampled. Emotiva, although revealing which DAC chip (AD1955) and I/V op-amp (OPA-2134) are used, have not mentioned which USB chip is used, and it is also fairly standard for DAC manufacturers to list maxiumum bit depth and sampling rate specs for both S/PDIF and USB inputs. Once the chip is identified, we will know if we are spinning our wheels. Steve Emotiva claim 192/24. |
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