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Post by monkumonku on Dec 3, 2010 18:25:46 GMT -5
And my official opinion is I cant tell a bit of difference Don't feel bad. Most likely there IS a difference but YOU just can't hear it - not because of your audio equipment but because of your own body equipment! That is what led me to my startling new line of body sound enhancers that will enable your own anatomy to make the most of every hard-earned dollar that you have spent on expensive equipment that seems as though one sounds just like the other. My first product is Accu-Ear Liquid Hearing Enhancer and Ear Epoxy. Did you know that as you age, the insides of your ear gradually get all sorts of nooks and crannies and wrinkles that interfere with the smooth delivery of sound to your brain? Sound waves all come in at the same time but then because of all the irregularities inside of your ear, some get delayed, some bounce off of a wrinkle and smear the sound, and what happens is, each portion of what was once a unified wave reaches your poor befuddled brain at different times. Your brain can only do so much to decipher what is happening and try and piece the entire sound wave together, but winds up dazed and confused. What's an ear to do? I'll tell you what it is to do - thank you for using Accu-Ear Liquid Hearing Enhancer and Ear Epoxy, that's what. This miracle liquid not only cleans your ears, it smoothes out your ear canal by filling in all the dents and wrinkles and scars so that instead of getting trapped or bounced around, sound just slides on through like a greased pig or lightning, from your ear opening to your brain! Sounds will now be totally clear because there is no grunge or obstacle course that they have to maneuver. My second product, in case the liquid doesn't completely work, is to handle the problem nature may have given you - namely, your ear simply isn't shaped in a way that is conducive to receiving sound waves correctly. Maybe the shape of your ears makes everything sound boxy. Not everyone is lucky enough to have big, flat ears that make it like having Magnepans on your head. If you are among the less fortunate, here is my solution - simply affix the appropriate artificial ear to your own ears and see (hear) what a grand difference they make! Preorders are now being taken.. expected delivery - around the time the XMC-1 is released. By the way, I am still trying to come up with the final name of my company but I am leaning towards "Van Gogh Audio." Sounds kind of classy, don't you think?
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Post by Porscheguy on Dec 3, 2010 18:28:01 GMT -5
Once again this forum does as it will always do to bash the idea that something like a PC, IC etc could make a difference. With the attitude you guys have its not just about making jokes, no rather I would feel that if I was new and read this, that the whole idea of even wanting to try it out would be dumb and blah blah blah. Yet again, why aren't you using pro audio amps and speakers? Everything sounds the same right? Something couldn't possibly make a difference... A pro audio amp sure does cost less then an XPA-1, hell you can get it for around 400 bucks or so and put out a crap ton of power. You guys are doing it all wrong. Yet anytime someone wants to introduce the concept of doing a PC swap, etc a whole group likes to come in and say its stupid for someone to spend their money etc. Who the hell cares, its not your money. Tweaking and changing things out is one part of the hobby that can be very fun. Why not try and encourage people to try something. Even if you don't believe in it, doesn't mean that the other person can't find happiness. Oh let me guess your trying to help them spend less money, hmmm. Maybe you should then put down that 5 dollar burger, go get something off the dollar menu. OR better yet you don't need that vacation, stay home for a change. See I'm telling you want to do with your money. Why are you buying a expensive car, your dumb, your wasting money, that money could be better spent on your retirement, or your children, see I can tell you what to do with your money, and most don't like it, nor will they do it, so why the hell does this have to be different in this hobby. I don't think anyone is bashing anybody. I simply asked the question: "How does the Emo cable improve anything, and why is the last 3 or 6 feet of the ride important when you don't change everything in the wall including the outlets, wall wiring, meter contacts and wiring all the way to the transformer??" Its almost like putting six feet of glass lined pipe on your fawcet and now you are expecting the water to taste better........ WUT? I am asking the question. Some people spend upwards of $1000.00 on a power cord and I just can't conceive why...... They are pretty though........ :-)
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Post by LCSeminole on Dec 3, 2010 18:29:41 GMT -5
Has anyone on the Lounge just ever gone into a local business, not find a thing that you want or need, and still buy something to support your local businesses? I have. As a matter fact, in my XDA-1 order, I also ordered two of the 2m power cords. Not because I thought it would sound better, and not because it looks more impressive behind my home theater rack, but because I support what Emotiva is to me. So many newcomers to the Lounge have come here for support and encouragement in going from a one piece meets all requirements to taking that once elusive step into components. Experimenting and learning, sometimes the hard way, is part of the fun and experience of home theater. So what if the OP can or can't tell a difference, he's learned something either way, and will benefit from that decision on the next purchase.
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Post by LCSeminole on Dec 3, 2010 18:32:56 GMT -5
Once again this forum does as it will always do to bash the idea that something like a PC, IC etc could make a difference. With the attitude you guys have its not just about making jokes, no rather I would feel that if I was new and read this, that the whole idea of even wanting to try it out would be dumb and blah blah blah. Yet again, why aren't you using pro audio amps and speakers? Everything sounds the same right? Something couldn't possibly make a difference... A pro audio amp sure does cost less then an XPA-1, hell you can get it for around 400 bucks or so and put out a crap ton of power. You guys are doing it all wrong. Yet anytime someone wants to introduce the concept of doing a PC swap, etc a whole group likes to come in and say its stupid for someone to spend their money etc. Who the hell cares, its not your money. Tweaking and changing things out is one part of the hobby that can be very fun. Why not try and encourage people to try something. Even if you don't believe in it, doesn't mean that the other person can't find happiness. Oh let me guess your trying to help them spend less money, hmmm. Maybe you should then put down that 5 dollar burger, go get something off the dollar menu. OR better yet you don't need that vacation, stay home for a change. See I'm telling you want to do with your money. Why are you buying a expensive car, your dumb, your wasting money, that money could be better spent on your retirement, or your children, see I can tell you what to do with your money, and most don't like it, nor will they do it, so why the hell does this have to be different in this hobby. I don't think anyone is bashing anybody. I simply asked the question: "How does the Emo cable improve anything, and why is the last 3 or 6 feet of the ride important when you don't change everything in the wall including the outlets, wall wiring, meter contacts and wiring all the way to the transformer??" Its almost like putting six feet of glass lined pipe on your fawcet and now you are expecting the water to taste better........ WUT? I am asking the question. Some people spend upwards of $1000.00 on a power cord and I just can't conceive why...... They are pretty though........ :-) I agree in the looks department. No comments on improvements though!
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Post by monkumonku on Dec 3, 2010 18:35:12 GMT -5
Has anyone on the Lounge just ever gone into a local business, not find a thing that you want or need, and still buy something to support your local businesses? I have. As a matter fact, in my XDA-1 order, I also ordered two of the 2m power cords. Not because I thought it would sound better, and not because it looks more impressive behind my home theater rack, but because I support what Emotiva is to me. So many newcomers to the Lounge have come here for support and encouragement in going from a one piece meets all requirements to taking that once elusive step into components. Experimenting and learning, sometimes the hard way, is part of the fun and experience of home theater. So what if the OP can or can't tell a difference, he's learned something either way, and will benefit from that decision on the next purchase. Regardless of whether there is an audible difference in cords, those Emo power cables are really gorgeous and well built.
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Post by geebo on Dec 3, 2010 18:39:16 GMT -5
And my official opinion is I cant tell a bit of difference Don't feel bad. Most likely there IS a difference but YOU just can't hear it - not because of your audio equipment but because of your own body equipment! That is what led me to my startling new line of body sound enhancers that will enable your own anatomy to make the most of every hard-earned dollar that you have spent on expensive equipment that seems as though one sounds just like the other. My first product is Accu-Ear Liquid Hearing Enhancer and Ear Epoxy. Did you know that as you age, the insides of your ear gradually get all sorts of nooks and crannies and wrinkles that interfere with the smooth delivery of sound to your brain? Sound waves all come in at the same time but then because of all the irregularities inside of your ear, some get delayed, some bounce off of a wrinkle and smear the sound, and what happens is, each portion of what was once a unified wave reaches your poor befuddled brain at different times. Your brain can only do so much to decipher what is happening and try and piece the entire sound wave together, but winds up dazed and confused. What's an ear to do? I'll tell you what it is to do - thank you for using Accu-Ear Liquid Hearing Enhancer and Ear Epoxy, that's what. This miracle liquid not only cleans your ears, it smoothes out your ear canal by filling in all the dents and wrinkles and scars so that instead of getting trapped or bounced around, sound just slides on through like a greased pig or lightning, from your ear opening to your brain! Sounds will now be totally clear because there is no grunge or obstacle course that they have to maneuver. My second product, in case the liquid doesn't completely work, is to handle the problem nature may have given you - namely, your ear simply isn't shaped in a way that is conducive to receiving sound waves correctly. Maybe the shape of your ears makes everything sound boxy. Not everyone is lucky enough to have big, flat ears that make it like having Magnepans on your head. If you are among the less fortunate, here is my solution - simply affix the appropriate artificial ear to your own ears and see (hear) what a grand difference they make! Preorders are now being taken.. expected delivery - around the time the XMC-1 is released. Is the firmware updateable?
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Post by monkumonku on Dec 3, 2010 18:40:42 GMT -5
Don't feel bad. Most likely there IS a difference but YOU just can't hear it - not because of your audio equipment but because of your own body equipment! That is what led me to my startling new line of body sound enhancers that will enable your own anatomy to make the most of every hard-earned dollar that you have spent on expensive equipment that seems as though one sounds just like the other. My first product is Accu-Ear Liquid Hearing Enhancer and Ear Epoxy. Did you know that as you age, the insides of your ear gradually get all sorts of nooks and crannies and wrinkles that interfere with the smooth delivery of sound to your brain? Sound waves all come in at the same time but then because of all the irregularities inside of your ear, some get delayed, some bounce off of a wrinkle and smear the sound, and what happens is, each portion of what was once a unified wave reaches your poor befuddled brain at different times. Your brain can only do so much to decipher what is happening and try and piece the entire sound wave together, but winds up dazed and confused. What's an ear to do? I'll tell you what it is to do - thank you for using Accu-Ear Liquid Hearing Enhancer and Ear Epoxy, that's what. This miracle liquid not only cleans your ears, it smoothes out your ear canal by filling in all the dents and wrinkles and scars so that instead of getting trapped or bounced around, sound just slides on through like a greased pig or lightning, from your ear opening to your brain! Sounds will now be totally clear because there is no grunge or obstacle course that they have to maneuver. My second product, in case the liquid doesn't completely work, is to handle the problem nature may have given you - namely, your ear simply isn't shaped in a way that is conducive to receiving sound waves correctly. Maybe the shape of your ears makes everything sound boxy. Not everyone is lucky enough to have big, flat ears that make it like having Magnepans on your head. If you are among the less fortunate, here is my solution - simply affix the appropriate artificial ear to your own ears and see (hear) what a grand difference they make! Preorders are now being taken.. expected delivery - around the time the XMC-1 is released. Is the firmware updateable? It depends on what operating system your brain is on.
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Post by LCSeminole on Dec 3, 2010 18:42:35 GMT -5
Has anyone on the Lounge just ever gone into a local business, not find a thing that you want or need, and still buy something to support your local businesses? I have. As a matter fact, in my XDA-1 order, I also ordered two of the 2m power cords. Not because I thought it would sound better, and not because it looks more impressive behind my home theater rack, but because I support what Emotiva is to me. So many newcomers to the Lounge have come here for support and encouragement in going from a one piece meets all requirements to taking that once elusive step into components. Experimenting and learning, sometimes the hard way, is part of the fun and experience of home theater. So what if the OP can or can't tell a difference, he's learned something either way, and will benefit from that decision on the next purchase. Regardless of whether there is an audible difference in cords, those Emo power cables are really gorgeous and well built. Eeeeeeeeh, what you say??? Those nooks, crannies & wrinkles in my ears that I didn't have last year are interfering with my hearing. ;D
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Post by thepcguy on Dec 3, 2010 21:05:54 GMT -5
Sorry Monku, but I have a lot of pre-orders for this: By the way guys, I am seriously considering changing my user name to " VigKlit" ;D
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Post by BigV10 on Dec 3, 2010 21:34:50 GMT -5
They are very nice cables and I bought one to check it out, knowing full well that I wouldn't hear a difference in the sound. Frankly not having to put up with a power cable that has 12 huge kinks in it from being folded up its entire existence is worth it to me at this point in my life. Most of my gear is out in the open so it does matter to me.
As LCSeminole stated, I like what Emotiva represents, and even when they aren't perfect they are available, approachable, and try hard to fix the situation.
Brian
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Post by jmilton on Dec 3, 2010 22:57:44 GMT -5
Hmmm. The debate on power cords goes on. I have just been offered to review a $4000 cable called the Minotaur and a lesser $2400 cord called Vortex Prime from a German company. Perhaps I will finally find out for myself. That is a lot of coin for a power cord... Even if it does sound amazing!
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Post by Pauly on Dec 3, 2010 23:42:53 GMT -5
Is that in HT Mag, Jim? Or is it Secrets that you write for?
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Post by crazyhorse on Dec 4, 2010 0:33:00 GMT -5
Once again this forum does as it will always do to bash the idea that something like a PC, IC etc could make a difference. With the attitude you guys have its not just about making jokes, no rather I would feel that if I was new and read this, that the whole idea of even wanting to try it out would be dumb and blah blah blah. Yet again, why aren't you using pro audio amps and speakers? Everything sounds the same right? Something couldn't possibly make a difference... A pro audio amp sure does cost less then an XPA-1, hell you can get it for around 400 bucks or so and put out a crap ton of power. You guys are doing it all wrong. Yet anytime someone wants to introduce the concept of doing a PC swap, etc a whole group likes to come in and say its stupid for someone to spend their money etc. Who the hell cares, its not your money. Tweaking and changing things out is one part of the hobby that can be very fun. Why not try and encourage people to try something. Even if you don't believe in it, doesn't mean that the other person can't find happiness. Oh let me guess your trying to help them spend less money, hmmm. Maybe you should then put down that 5 dollar burger, go get something off the dollar menu. OR better yet you don't need that vacation, stay home for a change. See I'm telling you want to do with your money. Why are you buying a expensive car, your dumb, your wasting money, that money could be better spent on your retirement, or your children, see I can tell you what to do with your money, and most don't like it, nor will they do it, so why the hell does this have to be different in this hobby. I don't think anyone is bashing anybody. I simply asked the question: "How does the Emo cable improve anything, and why is the last 3 or 6 feet of the ride important when you don't change everything in the wall including the outlets, wall wiring, meter contacts and wiring all the way to the transformer??" Its almost like putting six feet of glass lined pipe on your fawcet and now you are expecting the water to taste better........ WUT? I am asking the question. Some people spend upwards of $1000.00 on a power cord and I just can't conceive why...... They are pretty though........ :-) Ummmm acutally ever heard of a water filter? You run your water through miles and miles of dirty pipe and then have it come up the facet and oh some people feel its still not good enough so they stick a filter on there to make it better, yet don't dig up all the other pipe. Could be the same reason why people use upgraded PC's and a power conditioner. And sorry but if I'm someone new to this forum, and just getting an idea of upgrading reading all the BS and crap you guys like to do and then joke about it as hahah your dumb if you believe this is a huge turn off and would never encourage me to try it for myself to form a belief. But I guess you look at it this way. You've never tired it yourself, just read that its a waste of money and won't make a difference and then go on and tell people that. You say science proves otherwise. Well that's nice, you really have no evidence of your OWN trial and what you HEARD just dismiss it as what others told you. Why can't someone be encouraged to think for them selves and form their own idea and make a judgment call if its something they want to do. It kinda seems like you like to tell people what to think and what not to think. If I told you blue was your favorite color but red really was, don't you think you would get a bit annoyed? So why should people here get to run their mouths at the simple idea or suggestion something could change their listening experience? Because oh science proves it, ok well thats nice, but how about you TRY IT ON YOUR OWN. Only way you'll ever know, its like trying food that you think will taste bad but you just go by what everyone else says.
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Post by geebo on Dec 4, 2010 1:12:34 GMT -5
Sorry, but a water filter is a poor analogy. A water filter is designed to take something out of the water. Perhaps the stuff it gathers in the "dirty" pipe. A power cord should do nothing to the current. Neither clean it nor muddy it. Its just to keep it the same as what is at your outlet. Nothing more and nothing less. A more proper comprison would be to put a couple of feet of clean pipe at the end of the miles of "dirty" pipe and somehow expect the water to be cleaner now because of it.
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Post by crazyhorse on Dec 4, 2010 1:28:38 GMT -5
Sorry, but a water filter is a poor analogy. A water filter is designed to take something out of the water. Perhaps the stuff it gathers in the "dirty" pipe. A power cord should do nothing to the current. Neither clean it nor muddy it. Its just to keep it the same as what is at your outlet. Nothing more and nothing less. A more proper comprison would be to put a couple of feet of clean pipe at the end of the miles of "dirty" pipe and somehow expect the water to be cleaner now because of it. whatever you say. I frankly don't give a rat's ass. All I'm saying is try it for yourself before all you make it out that someone shouldn't do it, as in stop posting your stupid BS about snake oil this and that, and then joking about it because like I said, it doesn't encourage anyone. And no one ever answered my question, if nothing matters why the hell are you all here. Go buy some cheap pro audio amps and be done with it. They are like 400 bucks but if amps don't matter, or nothing matters then Emo is just over priced as well. I frankly don't care if you don't like how I post my opinion, what I say, how I come off, or whatever. I'm sick and tired of people telling others what to think/believe/know/that their opinion is justified by SCIENCE/whatever else bull crap they pull. Audio is subjective, just like you like emo for whatever reason, such as the SOUND, I like different IC's and PC's because of it. How about encourage someone to try something for once before calling it stupid, especially if you don't have any experience in it or bothered to even try it yourself.
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Post by monkumonku on Dec 4, 2010 1:39:16 GMT -5
I don't think anyone is bashing anybody. I simply asked the question: "How does the Emo cable improve anything, and why is the last 3 or 6 feet of the ride important when you don't change everything in the wall including the outlets, wall wiring, meter contacts and wiring all the way to the transformer??" Its almost like putting six feet of glass lined pipe on your fawcet and now you are expecting the water to taste better........ WUT? I am asking the question. Some people spend upwards of $1000.00 on a power cord and I just can't conceive why...... They are pretty though........ :-) Ummmm acutally ever heard of a water filter? You run your water through miles and miles of dirty pipe and then have it come up the facet and oh some people feel its still not good enough so they stick a filter on there to make it better, yet don't dig up all the other pipe. Could be the same reason why people use upgraded PC's and a power conditioner. And sorry but if I'm someone new to this forum, and just getting an idea of upgrading reading all the BS and crap you guys like to do and then joke about it as hahah your dumb if you believe this is a huge turn off and would never encourage me to try it for myself to form a belief. But I guess you look at it this way. You've never tired it yourself, just read that its a waste of money and won't make a difference and then go on and tell people that. You say science proves otherwise. Well that's nice, you really have no evidence of your OWN trial and what you HEARD just dismiss it as what others told you. Why can't someone be encouraged to think for them selves and form their own idea and make a judgment call if its something they want to do. It kinda seems like you like to tell people what to think and what not to think. If I told you blue was your favorite color but red really was, don't you think you would get a bit annoyed? So why should people here get to run their mouths at the simple idea or suggestion something could change their listening experience? Because oh science proves it, ok well thats nice, but how about you TRY IT ON YOUR OWN. Only way you'll ever know, its like trying food that you think will taste bad but you just go by what everyone else says. That's why this is a forum - everyone is allowed to post his or her own experiences and opinions. What you wrote above is sensible and is a rebuttal to things others have written. Someone reading the thread will have to draw their own conclusions as to what to believe. No one is censoring anything; everyone is free to write what is on their mind - they are free to "run their mouths." I think most people will evaluate what they read in a logical manner. If, like your example, everyone in a thread keeps saying blue should be everyone's favorite color, a normal, reasonable reader would look at that and conclude there is no logical basis for this and not put much credence in what is being written. But in the case of two properly working power cords resulting in an audio system sounding different, logically that does not make any sense. I am not saying there is no difference, but that conclusion has some logic behind it that is backed by science whereas to say something like blue should be everyone's favorite color has no logic to support it. But since there are those who do insist that they can hear audible differences between power cords, then it is up to the reader to decide if this is something he or she should try for themselves. People who believe it makes a difference are just as free as those who think it is nonsense to post in the thread.
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Post by geebo on Dec 4, 2010 1:43:13 GMT -5
Sorry, but a water filter is a poor analogy. A water filter is designed to take something out of the water. Perhaps the stuff it gathers in the "dirty" pipe. A power cord should do nothing to the current. Neither clean it nor muddy it. Its just to keep it the same as what is at your outlet. Nothing more and nothing less. A more proper comprison would be to put a couple of feet of clean pipe at the end of the miles of "dirty" pipe and somehow expect the water to be cleaner now because of it. whatever you say. I frankly don't give a rat's ass. All I'm saying is try it for yourself before all you make it out that someone shouldn't do it, as in stop posting your stupid BS about snake oil this and that, and then joking about it because like I said, it doesn't encourage anyone. And no one ever answered my question, if nothing matters why the hell are you all here. Go buy some cheap pro audio amps and be done with it. They are like 400 bucks but if amps don't matter, or nothing matters then Emo is just over priced as well. I frankly don't care if you don't like how I post my opinion, what I say, how I come off, or whatever. I'm sick and tired of people telling others what to think/believe/know/that their opinion is justified by SCIENCE/whatever else bull crap they pull. Audio is subjective, just like you like emo for whatever reason, such as the SOUND, I like different IC's and PC's because of it. How about encourage someone to try something for once before calling it stupid, especially if you don't have any experience in it or bothered to even try it yourself. We are just gonna have to agree to disagree on this. You have your opinion and I have mine just as everyone else has theirs. And I don't recall anyone here saying they don't like the way you state your opinion. I certainly didn't.
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Post by monkumonku on Dec 4, 2010 1:44:13 GMT -5
Sorry, but a water filter is a poor analogy. A water filter is designed to take something out of the water. Perhaps the stuff it gathers in the "dirty" pipe. A power cord should do nothing to the current. Neither clean it nor muddy it. Its just to keep it the same as what is at your outlet. Nothing more and nothing less. A more proper comprison would be to put a couple of feet of clean pipe at the end of the miles of "dirty" pipe and somehow expect the water to be cleaner now because of it. whatever you say. I frankly don't give a rat's ass. All I'm saying is try it for yourself before all you make it out that someone shouldn't do it, as in stop posting your stupid BS about snake oil this and that, and then joking about it because like I said, it doesn't encourage anyone. And no one ever answered my question, if nothing matters why the hell are you all here. Go buy some cheap pro audio amps and be done with it. They are like 400 bucks but if amps don't matter, or nothing matters then Emo is just over priced as well. I frankly don't care if you don't like how I post my opinion, what I say, how I come off, or whatever. I'm sick and tired of people telling others what to think/believe/know/that their opinion is justified by SCIENCE/whatever else bull crap they pull. Audio is subjective, just like you like emo for whatever reason, such as the SOUND, I like different IC's and PC's because of it. How about encourage someone to try something for once before calling it stupid, especially if you don't have any experience in it or bothered to even try it yourself. Well now aren't you doing the same thing in your post, by telling others how to think? You are still voicing your own opinion and saying that people should listen to what you have to say. How is that any different than those who have a differing opinion? Personally I don't think a power cord that functions properly can make a difference in the sound of an audio system but that doesn't mean that's absolutely true. I never said that is a definite truth. Sure I like to make fun of things and that's my nature, but it is also my right to do so just as it is your right to say what you think. And then it is up to the reader to evaluate what he or she is reading.
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Post by monkumonku on Dec 4, 2010 1:47:49 GMT -5
And if it really does nothing why is there a $2400 power cord out there. Same reason why that company whose name I can't remember took a $500 Oppo blu ray player and put it inside of another box and charged 7x more for it. I agree there is a difference in quality among power cords, but whether or not there is a difference in the resulting sound from a system, I am skeptical and my belief is that no cord is worth that much money. But that's my opinion. However, just because something is expensive doesn't make it great or even good. Our government is expensive... draw your own conclusions.
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Post by crazyhorse on Dec 4, 2010 1:49:55 GMT -5
whatever you say. I frankly don't give a rat's ass. All I'm saying is try it for yourself before all you make it out that someone shouldn't do it, as in stop posting your stupid BS about snake oil this and that, and then joking about it because like I said, it doesn't encourage anyone. And no one ever answered my question, if nothing matters why the hell are you all here. Go buy some cheap pro audio amps and be done with it. They are like 400 bucks but if amps don't matter, or nothing matters then Emo is just over priced as well. I frankly don't care if you don't like how I post my opinion, what I say, how I come off, or whatever. I'm sick and tired of people telling others what to think/believe/know/that their opinion is justified by SCIENCE/whatever else bull crap they pull. Audio is subjective, just like you like emo for whatever reason, such as the SOUND, I like different IC's and PC's because of it. How about encourage someone to try something for once before calling it stupid, especially if you don't have any experience in it or bothered to even try it yourself. Well now aren't you doing the same thing in your post, by telling others how to think? You are still voicing your own opinion and saying that people should listen to what you have to say. How is that any different than those who have a differing opinion? Personally I don't think a power cord that functions properly can make a difference in the sound of an audio system but that doesn't mean that's absolutely true. I never said that is a definite truth. Sure I like to make fun of things and that's my nature, but it is also my right to do so just as it is your right to say what you think. And then it is up to the reader to evaluate what he or she is reading. I never said it will for sure/will not make a difference. I'm saying TRY IT FOR YOURSELF BEFORE YOU TELL OTHERS NOT TO. IE personal experience will trump the I read it somewhere that its science and proves everything wrong and that your dumb because its a cable and nothing makes a difference even though I never bothered to even try it myself. Personally for the longest time I told people to try it out for themselves and didn't even upgrade my own. Why? Because its important to see what else is other there before you settle on something. Is someone normally going to walk into a car dealership blind, not knowing anything about a car and buy the first one and stick with that car for the rest of their life just because one person told them to buy it? No, so audio is no different or any other hobby. But the lack of encouragement to try things, experiment and have fun is highly lacking for any type of cable thread on this forum just because a few people don't think it makes a difference and then want to make fun of the idea/concept and/or its believers. Its a very poor reflection of a forum that is run by a company that sells aftermarket PC's for one and then even offers type X and type Y. Why not just offer one, everything sounds the same ya? Oh build quality is different, oh thats right, but why does it matter what the build quality is like, it all sounds the same anyway....
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