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Post by sharkman on Mar 10, 2011 22:08:05 GMT -5
Is it generally agreed that this will be the next component released by Emo? Or is an amp coming first?
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Post by myryse on Mar 10, 2011 23:17:56 GMT -5
After looking at early pics of the XSP-1, I have a question for any and everyone...What other pre-amps are out there in this price range that would compare to the XSP?
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Post by sharkman on Mar 11, 2011 0:07:19 GMT -5
Parasound makes a decent offering, the 2100. It's not as feature laden as the upcoming XSP, but has a good rep for SQ, if you need something right now.
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Post by roadrunner on Mar 11, 2011 6:32:09 GMT -5
Parasound makes a decent offering, the 2100. It's not as feature laden as the upcoming XSP, but has a good rep for SQ, if you need something right now. The Parasound 2100 is a pretty close match for the Emotiva USP-1 -- not even close to the XSP-1. The Parasound Halo P7 and the JC-2 are closer to the XSP-1 as far as features go. The Bryston BP16 is also very similar to the XSP-1. The other day when I went looking for preamps that offer similar features, most of those retail for $2000 and up. When you compare the XSP's price of $799 to that of other brand offerings, its price looks like a bargain. Check out the pricing for NAD, MUSIC FIDELITY, CAMBRIDGE, VINCENT, etc if you really want to see what a bargain the XSP-1 really is. |
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Post by hpc on Mar 11, 2011 10:01:04 GMT -5
The wait is killing me! I have the second sub sitting dormant because the RSP-2
only supports a single sub. And my Lexicon DC-1+ is getting old - it wants to pass
duties onto the XMC-1.
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Post by sharkman on Mar 11, 2011 11:47:03 GMT -5
The Parasound 2100 is a pretty close match for the Emotiva USP-1 -- not even close to the XSP-1. The Parasound Halo P7 and the JC-2 are closer to the XSP-1 as far as features go. The Bryston BP16 is also very similar to the XSP-1. The other day when I went looking for preamps that offer similar features, most of those retail for $2000 and up. When you compare the XSP's price of $799 to that of other brand offerings, its price looks like a bargain. Check out the pricing for NAD, MUSIC FIDELITY, CAMBRIDGE, VINCENT, etc if you really want to see what a bargain the XSP-1 really is. Myryse was asking for units in the same price range. None of the models you mention are even close. But I think we have demonstrated that the XSP could be a new benchmark of features/SQ at the price, if rumors prove correct. |
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Post by hemster on Mar 11, 2011 13:30:32 GMT -5
The XSP-1 may be a sturdy unit but I certainly wouldn't advise standing on it!  |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2011 13:40:54 GMT -5
The XSP-1 may be a sturdy unit but I certainly wouldn't advise standing on it! Then why not just piss on it!   PS: Where the heck is my XMC-1? |
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Post by NorthStar on Mar 11, 2011 13:48:47 GMT -5
Hey how did you do that?
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Post by WTFChuck on Mar 11, 2011 13:55:20 GMT -5
The XSP-1 may be a sturdy unit but I certainly wouldn't advise standing on it! Then why not just piss on it! Fine if you're a shiny, curly-haired figurine with a wire stuck up your @$$... |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2011 18:02:48 GMT -5
Parasound makes a decent offering, the 2100. It's not as feature laden as the upcoming XSP, but has a good rep for SQ, if you need something right now. The Parasound 2100 is a pretty close match for the Emotiva USP-1 -- not even close to the XSP-1. The Parasound Halo P7 and the JC-2 are closer to the XSP-1 as far as features go. The Bryston BP16 is also very similar to the XSP-1. The other day when I went looking for preamps that offer similar features, most of those retail for $2000 and up. When you compare the XSP's price of $799 to that of other brand offerings, its price looks like a bargain. Check out the pricing for NAD, MUSIC FIDELITY, CAMBRIDGE, VINCENT, etc if you really want to see what a bargain the XSP-1 really is. How can you even make this statement or even compare the XSP to ANYTHING, quality wise, when it doesn't even exist ? Let's just wait to see how it pans out. No doubt it promises to be a fine unit, but damn...really... |
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Post by roadrunner on Mar 11, 2011 19:40:43 GMT -5
The Parasound 2100 is a pretty close match for the Emotiva USP-1 -- not even close to the XSP-1. The Parasound Halo P7 and the JC-2 are closer to the XSP-1 as far as features go. The Bryston BP16 is also very similar to the XSP-1. The other day when I went looking for pre-amps that offer similar features, most of those retail for $2000 and up. When you compare the XSP's price of $799 to that of other brand offerings, its price looks like a bargain. Check out the pricing for NAD, MUSIC FIDELITY, CAMBRIDGE, VINCENT, etc if you really want to see what a bargain the XSP-1 really is. How can you even make this statement or even compare the XSP to ANYTHING, quality wise, when it doesn't even exist ? Let's just wait to see how it pans out. No doubt it promises to be a fine unit, but damn...really... Your right, I have not heard the XSP-1 yet. However, I am very familiar with the sound of the analog output stage in the XDA-1; and, the XSP-1 uses the same output stage in its design. I also own the USP-1 which I am very familiar with. Lonnie and Big Dan have compared the sound quality and specs between these two pre-amps. The XSP-1 is said to have a noise floor 10 dB quieter than the USP-1. Taking all the little pieces and adding them to my knowledge of existing products gives me a good feel for the "quality level" of the XSP-1. If you compare the features and the specs of the name brand pre-amps I listed you will find they are all very similar to the XSP-1. If this were not enough, I completely trust Lonnie's skill in creating superb sounding components. For the past three years, everything Lonnie has shared with me on the sound and build quality of the ERC-1, USP-1, XDA-1, XPA-1, RSP-2, RPA-2, etc have been spot on. He did not exaggerate the sound quality on any of these components and I have been completely satisfied they were all as good as, or better, than advertised. This is why I feel comfortable in comparing the XSP-1 to existing products having similar features. The acid test will come once the XSP-1 is released. Yes, there is a chance that the expectations may not be met, but past performance on projects that Lonnie ramrodded support my high expectations. In the off chance that it fails to live up to those expectations, I will be able to return the XSP for a full refund during the trial period. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2011 20:13:16 GMT -5
I understand what you are saying. While I applaud your enthusiasm, people are here to get good solid information on products and comparisons. Your thoughts on the XSP are speculative and subjective at best. It's great if you think Emo's products have lived up to your expectations and that Lonnie's predictions have come true for you. I mention this because people routinely jump on you for the same comments you have just made.
I love Emo stuff as much as anyone else, but I don't tout them without having supportive arguments. I will most certainly do so when it is warranted. People want to hear what veteran forum members have to say about the Emo line, but ultimately the members with the most logical and straight forward approach will get the attention. Like anything else, no one wants to hear feedback from someone on an item of interest if there's even a hint of bias. For me, doing so is doing a disservice to those interested in what we have to say.
Just keeping it real.
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Post by LCSeminole on Mar 12, 2011 11:52:56 GMT -5
The Parasound 2100 is a pretty close match for the Emotiva USP-1 -- not even close to the XSP-1. The Parasound Halo P7 and the JC-2 are closer to the XSP-1 as far as features go. The Bryston BP16 is also very similar to the XSP-1. The other day when I went looking for preamps that offer similar features, most of those retail for $2000 and up. When you compare the XSP's price of $799 to that of other brand offerings, its price looks like a bargain. Check out the pricing for NAD, MUSIC FIDELITY, CAMBRIDGE, VINCENT, etc if you really want to see what a bargain the XSP-1 really is. How can you even make this statement or even compare the XSP to ANYTHING, quality wise, when it doesn't even exist ? Let's just wait to see how it pans out. No doubt it promises to be a fine unit, but damn...really... The question was asked above by another member, "After looking at early pics of the XSP-1, I have a question for any and everyone...What other pre-amps are out there in this price range that would compare to the XSP?" I assume RoadRunner (and yes I'm assuming), was at least working on the assumption that since the USP-1 is quite a stunning pre-amp sound-wise and build-wise, especially at its price range compared to other pre-amps that the XSP-1 will be even better on all fronts along with a few more top-tier features as have been mentioned since the XSP-1 was put out here for scrutiny. The above poster asked for comparisons, and yes we all know that the XSP-1 hasn't been released yet, but extrapolating from what he believes the XSP-1 will be, is as good as it gets, so I'm not sure why giving one's opinion based on this would be a problem. I know I actually saw (didn't hear it) a working prototype of the XSP-1 at EmoFest 2010 along with everyone else that attended, and I know from just comparing the build and parts, to the USP-1, that the XSP-1 looked to be in an entirely different class. Maybe I'm wrong to conclude that the XSP-1 will sound and perform fantastically, but I am making such a conclusion. Anyone reading this thread, obviously knows that the XSP-1 isn't in production yet, so any and all comments on the XSP-1 are definitely drawing upon one's own conclusions and past experiences with other Emotiva products. If this is a dis-service, then those potential future customers of the XSP-1 need to turn on that all-to-important filter when reading what other members are posting and come to their own conclusions. This is what makes this forum so interesting, being able to get others opinions (as long as they're stated in a respectful way) and extrapolating that information to come to my or their own conclusions.  |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2011 12:21:37 GMT -5
LC:
I respect your opinion and input. I don't discredit anything you've said, however I still stand by my comments. But I can now see how I might have come off as a bit harsh. There are many reasons that contributed to that (forum related).
I've actually corresponded a few times since then with RR and we seem to understand where we are both coming from on this issue.
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Post by LCSeminole on Mar 12, 2011 18:16:35 GMT -5
Hey neekos, it's all good.  Sometimes as a moderator I have to read into a thread before it happens and just wanted to keep our defcon level at the status level of 5. ;D en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DEFCON |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2011 18:37:10 GMT -5
Thanks LC.
I have to keep reminding myself that it's all about the fun and joy of the hobby.
I look forward to what sort of product the XSP will pan out to be. It might be just the ticket for many of us who want the best possible analog system that will integrate nicely into a h/t setup..
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Post by jerrin on Mar 12, 2011 22:54:42 GMT -5
Thanks LC. I have to keep reminding myself that it's all about the fun and joy of the hobby. I look forward to what sort of product the XSP will pan out to be. It might be just the ticket for many of us who want the best possible bang-for-the-buck analog system that will integrate nicely into a h/t setup.. Fixed it for you. You are absolutely correct that RR is speculating on the SQ of the XSP. However, I have spoken to Dan, as well as Lonnie, on specifically the SQ of the XSP. Both told me without hesitation that the analog SQ order in their lineup was XSP, USP, XMC, UMC, and, that the difference was not going to be subtle between the XSP and the UMC. Since I know and RR knows what the USP and UMC sound like, then it is a reasonable assumption (for us- since we like the sound of those units) that the XSP sound quality will be very good indeed. Personally, I would be cautious about proclaiming the XSP to be as good or better than many upper tier preamps. However, this is Emotiva opining on overall SQ and not release dates.... ;D Therefore, I and RR can feel optimistic about their assertations.  |
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Post by thomasd92 on Mar 13, 2011 10:51:09 GMT -5
I asked about the XSP-1 when I called Emotiva about a repair to an amp. The csr told me it would be early summer till it shows up. I have the USP-1 now for about a year and I am satisfied with it, but I am always looking for more,I guess I have upgraditis. I could not wait anymore so I ordered a Wyred for Sound STP-SE preamp. I should have it buy Friday I hope. They build to order. I just could not wait any longer.
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Post by magico309d on Mar 13, 2011 16:45:43 GMT -5
Will XSP-1 have individual gain control for its high and low pass outputs? In addition to a perfect choice for me, that extra functionality would also make it the only choice for me as well.
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Sometimes as a moderator I have to read into a thread before it happens and just wanted to keep our defcon level at the status level of 5. ;D
