LCSeminole
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Post by LCSeminole on Mar 22, 2012 18:15:51 GMT -5
I have always want to try a Class H power amplifier, wanted an IPS-1 or an MPS-2 for the longest time until I got the XPA-5/XPA-2. Now Big Dan is waving the XPR power amplifier line in front of us and I must admit, it's working as I'm already planning on two dedicated 20amp line for the home theater.
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Post by Pauly on Mar 22, 2012 18:27:26 GMT -5
Yeah, I'm very glad to see the Class H amps come back. I'm really happy with my XPA-5, but I really wish I had bought an MPS or IPS when they were still available. I gotta say though, I'm almost more excited about the class D Emo products. If it's affordable, I'm going to be very tempted to switch to class D for the HT.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2012 19:08:04 GMT -5
No wimpy lightweight puny class D amps for us macho dudes up in Worshington State.
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Post by Pauly on Mar 22, 2012 19:13:39 GMT -5
I don't know, Chuck. I owned the old Emo DMR-1, and it rocked! I still miss it sometimes. But it was too good for you Worshington folk. ;D
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Post by Porscheguy on Mar 22, 2012 19:15:56 GMT -5
No wimpy lightweight puny class D amps for us macho dudes up in Worshington State. +1 ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Post by Porscheguy on Mar 22, 2012 19:18:36 GMT -5
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Post by jamrock on Mar 22, 2012 19:54:27 GMT -5
Well, if it is going to be class H, at least we are guaranteed a generous amount of power. And you might be right. But I think that Dan's leaning is towards class D. Here is a quote from his posts regarding his and Lonnie's approval for the production of a 7 channel amp:
"You can expect to see a couple of interesting products from Emotiva by the end of this year that take advantage of the efficiency and power density of Class D. And by the way, they sound wonderful too!!"
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Post by Porscheguy on Mar 22, 2012 19:55:46 GMT -5
Well, if it is going to be class H, at least we are guaranteed a generous amount of power. And you might be right. But I think that Dan's leaning is towards class D. Here is a quote from his posts regarding his and Lonnie's approval for the production of a 7 channel amp: "You can expect to see a couple of interesting products from Emotiva by the end of this year that take advantage of the efficiency and power density of Class D. And by the way, they sound wonderful too!!" Not for this though... H it is..
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2012 20:11:58 GMT -5
Specs! Specs! Specs please ! Here is my very off the top of my flat head guess: Power Output 353 watts/channel RMS; continuous; into 8 ohms; 20 Hz - 20 kHz; <0.05% THD; any 2 channels driven (FTC) At <1% THD at 1 kHz: 432 watts/channel RMS; ALL channels driven; into 8 ohms 505 watts/channel RMS; 3 channels driven; into 8 ohms 607.5 watts/channel RMS; 1 channel driven; into 8 ohms 648.5 watts/channel RMS; ALL channels driven; into 4 ohms 858 watts/channel RMS; 3 channels driven; into 4 ohms 1206.75 watts/channel RMS; 1 channel driven; into 4 ohms S/N ratio: > 104.7 dB (A-weighted) Frequency response: 20 Hz to 20 kHz + / - 0.076 dB at 1 watt (- 1.9 dB at 80 kHz)
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Post by Pauly on Mar 22, 2012 20:12:50 GMT -5
XPR=Class H, some future products=Class D. So...Class A/B+Class H+Class D=something for everybody and a lot of happy customers.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2012 20:17:25 GMT -5
Yay
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2012 20:20:00 GMT -5
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Post by jamrock on Mar 22, 2012 20:30:19 GMT -5
Some folks are hoping that any 7 channel amp will be a low powered class D or H. They might make such amps but I have never come across any. I just think that a 7 channel class A/B is not in the runnings for several reasons. I still feel that it will be class D rated at 7 x 250 wpc. Weight = 53 lbs. 2/7 triggers. ThD < 0.05.
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Post by SticknStones on Mar 22, 2012 20:34:00 GMT -5
You guys are quite the class act this evening. ;D
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Post by jamrock on Mar 22, 2012 20:39:06 GMT -5
Where do you place the emphasis? Class or Act?
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Post by Golden Ear on Mar 22, 2012 20:47:12 GMT -5
When these amps get release, we will see many thread between class A/B vs class H topology. As with any design, there is a trade off. Class H are very efficient in exchange with higher distortion. I'm interested to see XPA-2 vs XPR-2 in term of refinement in sound quality.
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Post by RadTech on Mar 22, 2012 20:50:54 GMT -5
As I've said time and time again I love my RPA 2! ;D The XPRs have got me interested but so have the Red Dragons. If I had the money that MPS 2 recently in the Emporium would have been mine. ;D ;D ;D
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Post by jamrock on Mar 22, 2012 21:47:11 GMT -5
When these amps get release, we will see many thread between class A/B vs class H topology. As with any design, there is a trade off. Class H are very efficient in exchange with higher distortion. I'm interested to see XPA-2 vs XPR-2 in term of refinement in sound quality. Class-H amplifiers take the idea of class G one step further creating an infinitely variable supply rail. This is done by modulating the supply rails so that the rails are only a few volts larger than the output signal at any given time. The output stage operates at its maximum efficiency all the time. Switched-mode power supplies can be used to create the tracking rails. Significant efficiency gains can be achieved but with the drawback of more complicated supply design and reduced THD performance. In common designs, a voltage drop of about 10V is maintained over the output transistors in Class H circuits
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Post by ausman on Mar 23, 2012 2:34:37 GMT -5
hmmm make you wonder what amps people will go with..
them some purdy lights...
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Post by briank on Mar 23, 2012 6:54:59 GMT -5
Specs! Specs! Specs please ! Here is my very off the top of my flat head guess: Power Output 353 watts/channel RMS; continuous; into 8 ohms; 20 Hz - 20 kHz; <0.05% THD; any 2 channels driven (FTC) At <1% THD at 1 kHz: 432 watts/channel RMS; ALL channels driven; into 8 ohms 505 watts/channel RMS; 3 channels driven; into 8 ohms 607.5 watts/channel RMS; 1 channel driven; into 8 ohms 648.5 watts/channel RMS; ALL channels driven; into 4 ohms 858 watts/channel RMS; 3 channels driven; into 4 ohms 1206.75 watts/channel RMS; 1 channel driven; into 4 ohms S/N ratio: > 104.7 dB (A-weighted) Frequency response: 20 Hz to 20 kHz + / - 0.076 dB at 1 watt (- 1.9 dB at 80 kHz) Thanks for posting this Chuckie, I can't wait to see the Audio Precision Test Data.
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