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UPA-500
Apr 28, 2012 14:45:11 GMT -5
Post by brubacca on Apr 28, 2012 14:45:11 GMT -5
I curently have an Acurus 100x3 amp that I'm using along with a Pioneer Elite receiver in my system. The Acurus is driving three Thiel speakers up front.....SCS3 center channel and 1.6 mains.....it works great, but I have been thinking for awhile now about replacing it with an XPA3 for the additional power, but mostly for the 12 volt trigger that the Acurus does not have. I was going to wait till the July 4th sale, but now am really giving some thought to the new UPA-500. The Thiels are 4ohm minimum so it should be interesting to see the specs on these amps. Hopefully pics and specs will be up soon. I remember Acurus as a brand, they have good equipment. I'm also a fan of the Thiels. I would think that the XPA-3 would give you a much more dramatic improvement over just using a 125w amp. I would think that the new UPA-500 would be more of a lateral move.
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UPA-500
Apr 28, 2012 14:48:11 GMT -5
Post by tchaik on Apr 28, 2012 14:48:11 GMT -5
Good point! As you know, the site is a living thing an it will continue to be fleshed out and expanded as we move along... Cheers, Big Dan sort of a living, breathing document? like the US constitution?
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UPA-500
Apr 28, 2012 15:59:09 GMT -5
Post by edoggrc51 on Apr 28, 2012 15:59:09 GMT -5
I don't want or need 500 wpc. The two channel versions of the XPR are just too darn powerful. XPR-2 on our not so big living room will make the cops knocking our door. You guys know that there's a lot more to these higher powered amps than just sheer volume right?? Its not just about being loud.
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UPA-500
Apr 28, 2012 17:06:27 GMT -5
Post by jamrock on Apr 28, 2012 17:06:27 GMT -5
I don't want or need 500 wpc. XPR-2 on our not so big living room will make the cops knocking our door. You guys know that there's alot more to these higher powered amps than just sheer volume right?? Its not just about being loud. Party Pooper ;D ;D ;D
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Apr 28, 2012 17:23:47 GMT -5
Post by bootman on Apr 28, 2012 17:23:47 GMT -5
I don't want or need 500 wpc. I was referring to the XPR series when I said that. What Emo had for amps 5-7 years ago would be right in my sweet spot. The current line, XPA, I find a little loose in the bass response and at the threshold of hiss in my tweeters with no volume, at least with my XPA-3(The UPA stuff was not up to par with the XPA line). I'm willing to pay more to get more from Emo, but at the 200 watt limit. They have nothing I would be interested in. This new UPA line is going the wrong direction for me. Maybe I'm out of touch. Have you looked into tube amps? I think you are leaning in that directions and don't even know it yet. Now a nice 300B tube amp from Emotiva with blue glowing ring.....Hint use WE 300Bs Lonnie knows what I'm talking about. yummy.
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Apr 28, 2012 17:28:44 GMT -5
Post by bootman on Apr 28, 2012 17:28:44 GMT -5
It could be something like this. Attachments:
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Apr 28, 2012 17:37:58 GMT -5
Post by brubacca on Apr 28, 2012 17:37:58 GMT -5
I know that I want everything, but I'd be interested in this 300b tube amp too. I keep on hearing that my Soliloquy's really sing with tubes.
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UPA-500
Apr 28, 2012 17:53:31 GMT -5
Post by edoggrc51 on Apr 28, 2012 17:53:31 GMT -5
You guys know that there's alot more to these higher powered amps than just sheer volume right?? Its not just about being loud. Party Pooper ;D ;D ;D Just saying. ;D
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UPA-500
Apr 28, 2012 18:08:32 GMT -5
Post by garbulky on Apr 28, 2012 18:08:32 GMT -5
edogg I think what we are all saying is we want the quality and the quality related specs of the reference amp at a lower price and we are willing to sacrifice tons of power to get it at that price.
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UPA-500
Apr 28, 2012 18:26:44 GMT -5
Post by stiehl11 on Apr 28, 2012 18:26:44 GMT -5
The power part of electronics isn't always the expensive part. The price of the amp would only go down a few dollars by making it less powerful.
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Apr 28, 2012 18:31:03 GMT -5
Post by jamrock on Apr 28, 2012 18:31:03 GMT -5
The difference between a well made low powered amp and a well made high powered amp is the HP amp's ability to drive more complex loads and maintain channel integrity without distortion. However, there are also parts selections and circuit designs that will guarantee more problem free operation over time. A power amp is supposed to amplify and faithfully reproduce whatever signal it receives. Adding any "sound characteristic" is an aberration! Take a look at the specs for the XPA-1 and the UPA-2 at 18Hz - 25KHz and identify any difference!
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Apr 28, 2012 18:35:07 GMT -5
Post by stiehl11 on Apr 28, 2012 18:35:07 GMT -5
All amps have a sonic signature whether we like it or not. The best amps minimize the amount of coloration (negative or positive) they add to the signal.
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UPA-500
Apr 28, 2012 19:25:01 GMT -5
Post by Golden Ear on Apr 28, 2012 19:25:01 GMT -5
New amp for May! 5ch 125W ea. $399 Discus That is better value than UPA-2 that was went clearance for the same rated power. Is this class AB topology?
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Apr 28, 2012 19:41:18 GMT -5
Post by jamrock on Apr 28, 2012 19:41:18 GMT -5
New amp for May! 5ch 125W ea. $399 Discus That is better value than UPA-2 that was went clearance for the same rated power. Is this class AB topology? For your benefit, you might have missed what Dan posted today: "Hi all, You should know us better by now. The new Ultra Series amps are designed from the ground up to be great performers at GREAT prices! The problem with the old models was not quality or reliability.... they were just too expensive to build and too much like X series. We couldn't continue losing money on them. We've taken a fresh look at how to design high quality amplifiers for the budget audiophile and have designed a line of amplifiers that sound great, are extremely reliable, and match the look and feel of all of the current models, at price points that make them affordable for everyone. I think you will be well pleased by these new models. Forget the amazing price points, these are great amps and you'll be blown away by how good they sound and how nicely they are put together. And yes, they still use our fully discrete Class AB amp design, high current toroid power transformers, big caps, etc. etc. We've just gotten clever in our packaging and mechanical design. Remember, we've got our name on these products and they are Emotiva, through and through. NO PLASTIC FACEPLATES!!!! No hollow front panels allowed!! Wow, I wonder if a nice two channel amp and maybe even a seven channel amp might round up the line nicely... Maybe an entry level processor?? Maybe a or a Remember. we've got over 20 new products coming out... so, lots of things to dream about. I wonder what the new models might be??? Hmmmmm...." Cheers, Big Dan I hope that this answered your question ;D
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UPA-500
Apr 28, 2012 20:54:42 GMT -5
Post by sharkman on Apr 28, 2012 20:54:42 GMT -5
edogg I think what we are all saying is we want the quality and the quality related specs of the reference amp at a lower price and we are willing to sacrifice tons of power to get it at that price. That says it better than I did, nice post.
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UPA-500
Apr 28, 2012 22:13:53 GMT -5
Post by knucklehead on Apr 28, 2012 22:13:53 GMT -5
I'd like it use this logo: Hey - I had one of those many years ago. A 2 door 68 with a 390. I curently have an Acurus 100x3 amp that I'm using along with a Pioneer Elite receiver in my system. The Acurus is driving three Thiel speakers up front.....SCS3 center channel and 1.6 mains.....it works great, but I have been thinking for awhile now about replacing it with an XPA3 for the additional power, but mostly for the 12 volt trigger that the Acurus does not have. I was going to wait till the July 4th sale, but now am really giving some thought to the new UPA-500. The Thiels are 4ohm minimum so it should be interesting to see the specs on these amps. Hopefully pics and specs will be up soon. I remember Acurus as a brand, they have good equipment. I'm also a fan of the Thiels. I would think that the XPA-3 would give you a much more dramatic improvement over just using a 125w amp. I would think that the new UPA-500 would be more of a lateral move. Don't underestimate Acurus amps. I had an A150 up until a few months ago. I wish I'd kept it. I've decided to go back to Acurus so I'm replacing the XPA-2 and 5 for an A200 2 channel amp and an A200x3 three channel amps that the seller claims have been used very little. Acurus has an excellent reputation - and are understated in their power claims. The A150 delivered 200wpc into 4ohm but it seemed like more - subjective of course and JMO.
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UPA-500
Apr 28, 2012 22:16:44 GMT -5
Post by texasnav on Apr 28, 2012 22:16:44 GMT -5
I will most likely get one of these amps, along with two UPA-1s for my system, but now I may hold off to see the additional products Big Dan was talking about. This sounds like a great addition to my Swan Diva speakers I just got, well for the surrounds that is.
I tell all my buddies about Emotiva, since most just dont know any better and low and behold, my buddy just bought two UPA-1s and the USP-1. I will probably wait until we get back from deployment but he couldnt wait so his will be waiting for him when we get back in a few months.
Not gonna lie, not knowing what they are coming out is sort of killing me. I want to know!
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UPA-500
Apr 29, 2012 7:29:07 GMT -5
Post by Dan Laufman on Apr 29, 2012 7:29:07 GMT -5
Good point! As you know, the site is a living thing an it will continue to be fleshed out and expanded as we move along... Cheers, Big Dan sort of a living, breathing document? like the US constitution? NO, not like that.... don't get me started on politics!!
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Apr 29, 2012 7:30:32 GMT -5
Post by Dan Laufman on Apr 29, 2012 7:30:32 GMT -5
I don't want or need 500 wpc. I was referring to the XPR series when I said that. What Emo had for amps 5-7 years ago would be right in my sweet spot. The current line, XPA, I find a little loose in the bass response and at the threshold of hiss in my tweeters with no volume, at least with my XPA-3(The UPA stuff was not up to par with the XPA line). I'm willing to pay more to get more from Emo, but at the 200 watt limit. They have nothing I would be interested in. This new UPA line is going the wrong direction for me. Maybe I'm out of touch. Have you looked into tube amps? I think you are leaning in that directions and don't even know it yet. Now a nice 300B tube amp from Emotiva with blue glowing ring.....Hint use WE 300Bs Lonnie knows what I'm talking about. yummy. Sure they hiss, but it's musical hiss!! ;D
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Apr 29, 2012 7:40:51 GMT -5
Post by jamrock on Apr 29, 2012 7:40:51 GMT -5
edogg I think what we are all saying is we want the quality and the quality related specs of the reference amp at a lower price and we are willing to sacrifice tons of power to get it at that price. The Reference Series amps are not even available for purchase as yet so how do you know what 'quality parts' they have? And how did you get the specs? ;D
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