Emotiva XPA-7 coming soon!!!!

[qwertyqwerty44]

Thanks for the info.

And, thank you Mark for the excellent write up. I actually had read through it, but was hoping that somehow something about the XPA-7 had slipped through a crack.

I do wish I had purchased a UPA-7 when they were available through Emo. It's a rarity to see a UPA-7 on the used market. I guess I'll give it until Christmas to see if the XPA-7 is launched or at least more information is available before I make a decision.

Bobby

[jamrock]

But no amp, except a very underpowered mono amp, is ever driven at rated power with any constancy. Using the XPA-7 in conjunction with subs means that it would never ever draw 50% its rated power I think. Non-audiophiles are more likely to be attracted to 1 pre/pro and 1 power amp combo to complete a 7.xxxx system than having to use 2 power amps. If Emo considers attracting the high-end AVR consumers, the XPA-7 has got to be built IMO.

[garbulky]

Hey all the more power to them if they release it

[klinemj]

Given the shear # of amps that DID show at Emofest...I would not get my panties in a wad over not hearing about 1 specific one. Given the XPA-1L showed up "out of nowhere", the same MIGHT happen with an XPA-7.

My reco: chill. Wait. See what happens. Be happy over what you can buy, don't fret over what you cannot.

Mark

[jlafrenz]

Lonnie stated that he was working on a very long list of projects. All the stuff that was at Emofest is just a sample of what is going on.

[stiehl11]

Further more, Emotiva is not the only game in town. So, if a 7 channel amp with more power than a UPA-700 is needed, there are others who would love to sell you one of theirs. Want Emo and you gotta have it now? Go with what they've got: if it's a 2 amp solution or a 1 amp solution.

[AudioHTIT]

Go look for a high power 7 channel amp, they're expensive (and often big and heavy). If Emo can pull off the XPA-7 for $1100-$1200 that's about half of what is out there. Also on my short list is the Wyred4Sound Mini MC 7, 220W x 7, it's based on ICE technology so it produces less heat, is much smaller and lighter and consumes a less power (I do like that). It's $2395 ... and no blue lights! (they have an even beefier version for $3595)

I also liked the B&K 200.7 before they were sold, I don't know if ATI will start making them again, also around $2400 IIRC. They generally go up from there, and there's not a lot of them. I will admit a 5U 90 lb amp isn't for everyone, but I believe there is a market.

[UT-Driven]

Sept 3, 2012 18:35:12 GMT -5 jamrock said:

Sept 3, 2012 18:28:41 GMT -5 garbulky said:

20 A receptacle requirement. It cuts off most of the consumer base right there. Not many want to go mucking about in the walls and electricians for an amp.

So how do you explain the XPR-5. It too needs a 20a line. In fact, an XPA-7 @ 250 wpc would be easily accommodated on a 15a line. maximum draw for a 15a line is 1800 VA. The XPA-7 would 1750 VA. Let's build the darn thing ;D

Don't you need to take the efficiency into account? The XPR series has a class H? power supply which is more efficient than a class A/AB.

You'd need more than 7x250 watts to drive a class AB amp (typically 60% efficiency?) to full power. Like ~2916 watts?

Doug

[AudioHTIT]

So I'm not sure why 250 x 7 keeps getting used, what I understood we're expecting is an XPA-5 plus 2 channels - that would be 200W x 7. Outlaw is often mentioned as an alternate to Emotiva, here's their current 200 x 7 amp, it's rated to draw 1800 Watts maximum (the limit of a 15A circuit) - it weighs 93 lbs and goes for $2149. It doesn't say but I assume class A/B.

www.outlawaudio.com/products/7700.html

[jamrock]

Big Dan did give the indication that there would be an XPA-7. And he mentioned that it would be an XPA-5 with 2 more amp blades with a more powerful transformer. He did not give an estimated time when it would be available. Am I to understand that we should not ask if any information about it was disseminated at EmoFest? We are to look elsewhere or take the next best thing available? BTW, I believe that you could safely use the XPR-5 on a dedicated 15A line if you are using a subwoofer Xed/O at 80Hz and you don't play your system very loud. Since in a similar set up, the XPA-7 would not make maximum draw on the line, I don't see why it could not have 250 wpc.

[AudioHTIT]

I agree Jam, even if they did decide to use a 20A power supply many could use the XPA-7 on a 15A circuit (like the XPR-5) - especially as you note when not run full range. I don't know why we shouldn't talk or ask about it, I just think their hands are full. I just used the Outlaw reference to show someone building a 200 x 7 on a 15A circuit. One thing that seems clear to me after watching what came out of EmoFest, Emotiva can get amps built.

[qwertyqwerty44]

Well I broke down and bought the XPA-5 at an incredible price from the warehouse sale.

While placing my order with Vincent I asked about the XPA-7 and was told that they will not be available until late 2013

Oh well I have my XPA-5 for now and I might turn around and sell it if/when the XPA-7 becomes available.

- Bobby

[bkdc]

I'm really interested in this one. How did this thread die off? Whether it's XPR-7 or XPA-7, a high power 7-channel Emotiva amp is something I'd buy. Late 2013?

[Jim]

Dec 11, 2012 9:43:18 GMT -5 bkdc said:

I'm really interested in this one. How did this thread die off? Whether it's XPR-7 or XPA-7, a high power 7-channel Emotiva amp is something I'd buy. Late 2013?

I thin it probably just died due to lack of information. I don't think there is any movement on the XPR-7. I think that unless there is suddenly some sign of demand, it won't happen.

I imagine the XPA-7 is still in the pipes, probably somewhere behind the XPA-1L. I could see late 2013 or maybe even 2014 as likely (but that's just my speculation).

[sharkman]

I remain puzzled why Emotiva has never offered a 7 channel version of the XPA series since all of the competition have long had 7 channel options with at least 200 wpc. Hopefully we'll hear more news soon.

[Jim]

Dec 11, 2012 15:43:20 GMT -5 sharkman said:

I remain puzzled why Emotiva has never offered a 7 channel version of the XPA series since all of the competition have long had 7 channel options with at least 200 wpc. Hopefully we'll hear more news soon.

I'm guessing that it's been lack of demand. I think even something like the XPA-7, which though it might sell well, still won't match the demand of the XPA-1/2/3/5.

I'd guess that even though the competition does have those products - that they aren't huge sellers either.

My UPA-7 was my first Emotiva amp, and I still love it, even if they didn't sell that well!

[sharkman]

That's a lot of guessing!

[Jim]

Dec 11, 2012 16:08:25 GMT -5 sharkman said:

That's a lot of guessing!

Indeed!!

Perhaps educated guessing....... but hey, aren't we all???

[jamrock]

This forum has a lot of "audiophile members" who have mistakenly proffered that 5.xx is all that is needed to experience all the glories of surround sound. Therefore, any discussion or argument for additional channels (even 7.xxx discrete) is shoved aside. Additionally, Emo discontinued their 7 channel line previously because of slow sales. I and many others have argued that the reason for the seemingly inadequate sales was due to misguided advertisement by Emo. The UPA-7 (I own one) was advertised as a replacement for the enemic AVR, but it did not offer more power on paper (it has much better drive capability than a similarly rated AVR). However, Emo has promised to make a 7-channel amp of similar power rating as the XPA-5 (200 wpc). I was hoping for at least 250 wpc. I would not expect to see a 7-channel PA (low priority for Emo) before 2014. The XMC-1, Reference Series speakers, RS subs, UMC-500 and replacements for the Ultra & X Series speakers would be higher priorities than a 7 channel HP amp that Emo seems unmotivated about.

[bootman]

The lack of demand isn't guessing.
Dan mentioned this here before in another thread.

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