RMC-1

[urwi]

Sept 13, 2012 18:31:23 GMT -5 dean70 said:

Actually most BluRay content is at 23.976fps. Playing at 24hz will introduce a slight judder every 40secs or so.

Where does the judder come from? The player playing at 24fps although content is 23.976 or the receiver trying to process a 23.796fps signal with 24fps?

[Tip]

Sept 16, 2012 10:40:26 GMT -5 Erwin.BE said:

Been snooping around a bit on TacT website... Think I may found out why the RMC-1 will probably be "9.3" or twelve channel in total:

www.tactlab.com/Products/TCSmkIII/index.html

A lot more to learn from there, maybe a bit old info. They also sell pre-amps which look exactly like Lyngdorf. And Lyngdorf teamed up with Steinway. All expensive stuff, so we are lucky to see TacT in modest priced devices as the XMC-1 and the RMC-1. Okay, the RMC-1 is not going to be cheap but should score very high value for money.

*VIRUS* www.tactlab.com/index.html *VIRUS*

www.steinwaylyngdorf.com/

www.lyngdorf.com/

See my post: emotivalounge.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=preamps&thread=24565&page=6#408694

!WARNING! Do not open the "tactlab.com/index.html" link! It is infected with a Trojan. If you did open it, run a virus scan on your PC immediately. For those who don't know, TacT Audio has been on "hiatus" since the beginning of the year. The members of the TacT Audio User Group (TAUG) on Yahoo thought that TacT Audio had gone out of business, since its email address and phone number have been disconnected and its dealers and distributors have not had any communication with TacT Audio. Some hacker has now infected the TacT Audio website. Dan Laufman informed me a few months ago that TacT is OK and will be making an announcement about its future by the end of this year (and then Boz showed up at Emofest!)

[Erwin.BE]

Okay, missed your post earlier.

For those who wonder: there's a 12-channel TacT processor. I presumed that's why the RMC-1 may be 9.3, so it can use the room correction of that one.

[LCSeminole]

Tip, Thanks for the warning. I tried the link and AVS blocked it, thankfully.

[urwi]

Sept 16, 2012 13:39:38 GMT -5 Tip said:

!WARNING! Do not open the "tactlab.com/index.html" link! It is infected with a Trojan. If you did open it, run a virus scan on your PC immediately. For those who don't know, TacT Audio has been on "hiatus" since the beginning of the year. The members of the TacT Audio User Group (TAUG) on Yahoo thought that TacT Audio had gone out of business, since its email address and phone number have been disconnected and its dealers and distributors have not had any communication with TacT Audio. Some hacker has now infected the TacT Audio website. Dan Laufman informed me a few months ago that TacT is OK and will be making an announcement about its future by the end of this year (and then Boz showed up at Emofest!)

Did you ask Boz what this is all about? Doesn't sound good at all.

[Tip]

Sept 16, 2012 15:56:08 GMT -5 urwi said:

Sept 16, 2012 13:39:38 GMT -5 Tip said:

!WARNING! Do not open the "tactlab.com/index.html" link! It is infected with a Trojan. If you did open it, run a virus scan on your PC immediately. For those who don't know, TacT Audio has been on "hiatus" since the beginning of the year. The members of the TacT Audio User Group (TAUG) on Yahoo thought that TacT Audio had gone out of business, since its email address and phone number have been disconnected and its dealers and distributors have not had any communication with TacT Audio. Some hacker has now infected the TacT Audio website. Dan Laufman informed me a few months ago that TacT is OK and will be making an announcement about its future by the end of this year (and then Boz showed up at Emofest!)

Did you ask Boz what this is all about? Doesn't sound good at all.

Up until Emofest, the only person I knew of who had actually communicated with Boz this year was Dan Laufman. As I mentioned, the TacT Audio email account and phone number has been disconnected. One of the TAUG members called Boz's personal phone number and the woman who answered said that Boz was dead! She was probably an old girl friend.

[sharkman]

Sept 16, 2012 13:39:38 GMT -5 Tip said:

!WARNING! Do not open the "tactlab.com/index.html" link! It is infected with a Trojan. If you did open it, run a virus scan on your PC immediately. For those who don't know, TacT Audio has been on "hiatus" since the beginning of the year. The members of the TacT Audio User Group (TAUG) on Yahoo thought that TacT Audio had gone out of business, since its email address and phone number have been disconnected and its dealers and distributors have not had any communication with TacT Audio. Some hacker has now infected the TacT Audio website. Dan Laufman informed me a few months ago that TacT is OK and will be making an announcement about its future by the end of this year (and then Boz showed up at Emofest!)

What the deuce?!

TACT has been on hiatus since the beginning of the year? It's email and address have been disconnected and its dealers have not had any communication with TACT?

That does not sound good or describe a company in good shape.

[klinemj]

Separate in your mind the company Tact, the brains behind it, the $ behind it, and Emotiva. Even if there are issues w/ the company Tact...there are business relationships between individuals and Emotiva that matter. To those of us awaiting an XMC or RMC, that's the important part. At Emofest, we all met Dr. Boz. And, in one moment, others of us met an important link (person) between "tact" and Emotiva.

I'll end by saying "there is a relationship that matters", and that's all I know. It leaves me with no reason to doubt what Emotiva has been saying. So...conspiracy theorists...cool it for now and let's see what happens.

Mark

[rogersch]

Now consider this: A technical genius might not always be a good business man. But what would happen if this technical genius would combine it's talents with a good business man?

[suffolk112000]

Sept 16, 2012 19:41:34 GMT -5 klinemj said:

Separate in your mind the company Tact, the brains behind it, the $ behind it, and Emotiva. Even if there are issues w/ the company Tact...there are business relationships between individuals and Emotiva that matter. To those of us awaiting an XMC or RMC, that's the important part. At Emofest, we all met Dr. Boz. And, in one moment, others of us met an important link (person) between "tact" and Emotiva.

I'll end by saying "there is a relationship that matters", and that's all I know. It leaves me with no reason to doubt what Emotiva has been saying. So...conspiracy theorists...cool it for now and let's see what happens.

Mark

I doubt this is true. Maybe it's partially true. Maybe there is trouble brewing just beyond the horizon.

Either way.... you just can't make this $hit up...

If I had to say, I'd say there may be some truth to financial instability, but I don't think it will affect the implementation of TacT into the XMC-1.

[kt10r]

Who said it would sulfolk?

[roadrunner]

Sept 16, 2012 20:14:17 GMT -5 rogersch said:

Now consider this: A technical genius might not always be a good business man. But what would happen if this technical genius would combine it's talents with a good business man?

Very astute observation. I had a conversation with Dr. Boz at Emofest and he said that his relationship with Emotiva is based on his personal relationship with Dan. He also said that the RCS being ported to the XMC/RMC will have about 90% of the power of his standalone brand processor/RCS; and that the only thing left to do is to make the user interface friendly enough that the average user can operate the system without encountering major problems -- basically make it "idiot proof".

I will have to check my notes, but I believe he said the version Emotiva will have gives upto 4000 room correction models based on the actual acoustic properties of your listening room and each model has a dynamic range of 148 dB.... sweeet

[suffolk112000]

Sept 16, 2012 13:39:38 GMT -5 Tip said:

!WARNING! Do not open the "tactlab.com/index.html" link! It is infected with a Trojan. If you did open it, run a virus scan on your PC immediately. For those who don't know, TacT Audio has been on "hiatus" since the beginning of the year. The members of the TacT Audio User Group (TAUG) on Yahoo thought that TacT Audio had gone out of business, since its email address and phone number have been disconnected and its dealers and distributors have not had any communication with TacT Audio. Some hacker has now infected the TacT Audio website. Dan Laufman informed me a few months ago that TacT is OK and will be making an announcement about its future by the end of this year (and then Boz showed up at Emofest!)

Hi kt10r, I can only imagine what this thread could look like when I check it tomorrow evening.

[suffolk112000]

Sept 16, 2012 21:26:29 GMT -5 roadrunner said:

Very astute observation. I had a conversation with Dr. Boz at Emofest and he said that his relationship with Emotiva is based on his personal relationship with Dan. He also said that the RCS being ported to the XMC/RMC will have about 90% of the power of his standalone brand processor/RCS; and that the only thing left to do is to make the user interface friendly enough that the average user can operate the system without encountering major problems -- basically make it "idiot proof".

I will have to check my notes, but I believe he said the version Emotiva will have gives upto 4000 room correction models based on the actual acoustic properties of your listening room and each model has a dynamic range of 148 dB.... sweeet

I remember others who had the privilege to attend Emofest talking about all these points you mention.
I'm trying not to get too excited about the XMC-1, but every time I visit these boards, it gets harder and harder to quell my anticipation.

[sharkman]

I just visited the Tactaudio website, and it tried to hit me with a virus. Just what kind of shape is Tact in? I presume that sales have been pretty awful for some time that the company is basically shuttered.

[suffolk112000]

Sept 16, 2012 21:35:12 GMT -5 sharkman said:

Yeah, then you have the sudden unexpected announcement that Tact will not be included with the released XMC.

Company owners wanting to sell products will give the rosiest view of thei products(Tact), but when their phone number no longer works and their web site now gives viruses, it gives one pause.

Well, you have to remember that Boz was just at Emofest. That sure seems to effectively contradict any notion that the XMC-1 will not get TacT implemented due to some financial issues from TacT. I personally don’t think we have anything to worry about.

[zaphod2012]

Well it would not be the first time that a technical genius gets into financial problems and negotiates alternative use of their skills. If you recall DPA in England, DPA went belly up and i was negotiating US franchise, his company failed and Robert Watts moved into consulting for CHORD and put his pulse array technology in the DAC64. They had several good years together. I am certain they will make it work, it is a love, a skill and a hobby. Let's face it even without TACT is am sure this will be a stinkingly good processor, my issue is not waiting on TACT but how much better the RMC-1 might be than the XMC-1. I can wait. If people are so worried about TACT, wait, but this technology is not simple and we are all better served if they do what they need to do to get it right, better than pushing out a release that isn't ready. So go for it, i loog forward to a very interesting 2013 :-)

[suffolk112000]

Sept 16, 2012 21:38:44 GMT -5 sharkman said:

I just visited the Tactaudio website, and it tried to hit me with a virus. Just what kind of shape is Tact in? I presume that sales have been pretty awful for some time that the company is basically shuttered.

I am just glad I have a UMC-1 to tide me over till the XMC-1 is offered to me. I watched War Horse last night with my family and my mom and dad who came over and everyone was impressed with the clarity of the audio.
As far as the XMC-1 is concerned… I would imagine I am so far down the list that it COULD be close to spring before I actually get the opportunity to purchase one. By then, it'll probably be shipping with TacT and all of this will be a non-issue. At least for me.

[ansat]

Sept 16, 2012 21:49:07 GMT -5 suffolk112000 said:

Sept 16, 2012 21:38:44 GMT -5 sharkman said:

I just visited the Tactaudio website, and it tried to hit me with a virus. Just what kind of shape is Tact in? I presume that sales have been pretty awful for some time that the company is basically shuttered.

I am just glad I have a UMC-1 to tide me over till the XMC-1 is offered to me. I watched War Horse last night with my family and my mom and dad who came over and everyone was impressed with the clarity of the audio.
As far as the XMC-1 is concerned… I would imagine I am so far down the list that it COULD be close to spring before I actually get the opportunity to purchase one. By then, it'll probably be shipping with TacT and all of this will be a non-issue. At least for me.

I wouldn't count on that. Since the xmc does on a boat. The release numbers should be limited by production. That's where its nice to have a made in china sticker on your stuff. It wouldn't be worth the freight to ship only a small bath of units.

[Tip]

I didn't mean to stir things up so much

Sept 16, 2012 19:08:45 GMT -5 sharkman said:

What the deuce?!

TACT has been on hiatus since the beginning of the year? It's email and address have been disconnected and its dealers have not had any communication with TACT?

That does not sound good or describe a company in good shape.

When I heard that the XMC-1 was going to use the TacT room correction system, my first thought was that Boz was shutting down TacT Audio and licensing the TacT RCS to other companies, like what Lyngdorf is doing with RoomPerfect, and of course, what Audyssey does. I then contacted Dan Laufman to ask if he knew what was happening with TacT Audio, even mentioning the rumor that Boz was dead. Dan replied, "Well, don't tell Boz he's dead. I just spoke to him today and he doesn't seem to know it! "

Sept 16, 2012 19:41:34 GMT -5 klinemj said:

Separate in your mind the company Tact, the brains behind it, the $ behind it, and Emotiva. Even if there are issues w/ the company Tact...there are business relationships between individuals and Emotiva that matter. To those of us awaiting an XMC or RMC, that's the important part. At Emofest, we all met Dr. Boz. And, in one moment, others of us met an important link (person) between "tact" and Emotiva.

I'll end by saying "there is a relationship that matters", and that's all I know. It leaves me with no reason to doubt what Emotiva has been saying. So...conspiracy theorists...cool it for now and let's see what happens.

Mark

Sept 16, 2012 20:06:19 GMT -5 sharkman said:

Uh, that's quite a defensive post for a mere question.

On the other hand, people who are looking to lay out 1500 bucks deserve to have an understanding about Tact and where it's at. That this is only coming out now is surprising.

Mark has the right attitude about this. The TacT room correction system already exists (it's been around since the mid 1990s) and what is happening over at TacT Audio doesn't affect Emotiva. I could have mentioned this months ago (it's old news to me ) but I didn't think it would matter to you guys.

Sept 16, 2012 20:14:17 GMT -5 rogersch said:

Now consider this: A technical genius might not always be a good business man. But what would happen if this technical genius would combine it's talents with a good business man?

Peter Lyngdorf was the businessman (one of the best in the audio business) and Boz was the technical genius. Boz made a huge mistake when he split up with Peter.