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Post by repeetavx on Dec 13, 2012 11:43:25 GMT -5
I am hoping these new Reference series products will be compared to the super-expensive big boys for power and performance. Emotiva has hit the ball out of the park in my opinion.
I too am looking forward to hearing how good this behemoth sounds. Emotiva has certainly made wonderful claims on how it will preform with statements like the above mentioned "Performance beyond the best of the best." I have no doubt that it will sound fantastic, but a claim of "performance beyond the best of the best" can only be proven by a side by side comparison with something like the Mark Levinson Nº53 (500 watts into 8 ohms Monoblock). That being said, now that they're available the "performance beyond" is here for us to savor. |
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Post by sharkman on Dec 13, 2012 12:14:06 GMT -5
It's actually quite an accomplishment to bring these to market at the price. They're not for me, but they really do look stunning, and that kind of power is unheard of, let alone at that cost.
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Post by Jim on Dec 13, 2012 13:05:56 GMT -5
It's actually quite an accomplishment to bring these to market at the price. They're not for me, but they really do look stunning, and that kind of power is unheard of, let alone at that cost. If you haven't seen an XPR in person, you're missing out! They look even better in person...  |
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Post by Jim on Dec 13, 2012 13:08:39 GMT -5
I have no doubt that it will sound fantastic, but a claim of "performance beyond the best of the best" can only be proven by a side by side comparison with something like the Mark Levinson Nº53 (500 watts into 8 ohms Monoblock). I bet an XPA-1 could hold it's own against most Levinson amps. Still, would love to see an XPR-1 side by side. |
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Post by audiofile on Dec 13, 2012 14:10:23 GMT -5
oooh....I haven't really been perusing the Emotiva website much as I have a full complement of their amps but, dang, that is an impressive piece of equipment!
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Post by sharkman on Dec 13, 2012 14:20:45 GMT -5
That's not what your back will say!
There does seem to be a lot of interest on these new reference amps if thread traffic is any indication. They should sell well and I wonder when the speakers will start blowing!
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Post by audiofile on Dec 13, 2012 14:22:37 GMT -5
LOL...my back cusses me out whenever I need to move one of my XPA-1's!!!
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Post by Ctuna on Dec 13, 2012 16:34:14 GMT -5
I am sure that this is a great amp and the looks are sweet, the only thing that kinda of upsets me is if I was to buy them the current Emotiva pre-amps, processors do not have the same styling cue as these amps.
You would think they would design them to look similar ?
But that's not that big of deal if its great sound you are looking for.
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Post by bouba on Dec 13, 2012 17:33:33 GMT -5
Why does the XPR-1 features displayed onto the website precise that a 20 amp circuit dedicated to the amp is necessary ?
Is that a compulsory condition if one want to use 'cause I'd probably buy one but if you do have to live into a nuclear center to get these working that's not really simple
My current pair of XPA-1 have no dedicated current circuit and they work fine.
So with no dedicated 20 amp circuit may I have problems using them .
No means to build a new 20 amp circuit, I rent a flat
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Post by garbulky on Dec 13, 2012 17:49:12 GMT -5
That's what they reccomend. There is an in between plug (forgot which one) they said was okay to use with a converter but the official supported reccomendation is a 20 A circuit. Two XPR-1's can provide 4,000 watts of power @ 4 ohms, so the amount of current your line can give can turn out to be a limiting feature.
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Post by roadrunner on Dec 13, 2012 18:26:47 GMT -5
Why does the XPR-1 features displayed onto the website precise that a 20 amp circuit dedicated to the amp is necessary ? Is that a compulsory condition if one want to use 'cause I'd probably buy one but if you do have to live into a nuclear center to get these working that's not really simple My current pair of XPA-1 have no dedicated current circuit and they work fine. So with no dedicated 20 amp circuit may I have problems using them . No means to build a new 20 amp circuit, I rent a flat It is just like tthe XPR-5 being rated at 20 amp. To meet the electrical code and avoid any law suites they have to say 20 amps even if most people can get by with a 15 amp circuit. You need to look at your individual usage to know if you can reasonably get by with using just a 15 amp circuit. If you have hard to drive speakers, a large listening room, and you like to blow the walls out you do not want to even think of anything less than 20 amps. However, if you have efficient speakers, a typical size listening room, and rarely play the soundtrack at painfully loud volume you can use an adaptor you should be able to use a 15 amp circuit. If you plan on getting the XPR amps you want to use dedicated circuits to power your A/V gear. Remember the XPR-1 has 36 250 Watt output devices and 240,000 uF of capacitors needing to be fed some serious power |
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Post by ratso on Dec 13, 2012 18:58:07 GMT -5
as has already been mentioned in this thread, there is NO WAY that emotiva will ever be compared to the upper echelon of amps in the audiophile world. too many people have it stuck in there head that if an amp costs ten times more it has to be better. stupid? yes. but that is the reality of it. and it will be confirmed by the audiophile magazines that sell ads to these big bux manufacturers. besides, we all know that a "home theater" company can't compete with the big name amp manufacturers, right?
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Post by danr on Dec 13, 2012 19:06:42 GMT -5
Like I've said before...I'll put my XPR-5 against any multichannel amp out there. :-)
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Post by kzone on Dec 13, 2012 19:16:27 GMT -5
what about the xpr1 that will make its " Performance beyond the best of the best", say against the flagships fm the levinsons, krells, pass labs, karan and oh.. the XPA1 !!
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Post by kse on Dec 13, 2012 19:22:49 GMT -5
BEAST! The pic showing what's under the hood is frightening.
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Post by garbulky on Dec 13, 2012 21:31:07 GMT -5
as has already been mentioned in this thread, there is NO WAY that emotiva will ever be compared to the upper echelon of amps in the audiophile world. too many people have it stuck in there head that if an amp costs ten times more it has to be better. stupid? yes. but that is the reality of it. and it will be confirmed by the audiophile magazines that sell ads to these big bux manufacturers. besides, we all know that a "home theater" company can't compete with the big name amp manufacturers, right? I'm not sure if you are being serious or tongue in cheek but: Take the mark Levinson N 532H monoblock Price: ML: $9,500 XPR-1: $1,250 (sale) Power: ML: 600 watts@ 8ohms (no 4 ohm rating given) XPR-1: 1000 watts @ 8 ohms (1750 watts @ 4 ohms) SNR: ML: 85db @ reference level XPR-1: 118 db @ full output (A-weighted so it may be lower unweighted but still likely higher than ML) 93 db (A-weighted) @ 1 watt Frequency response: ML: 10-20 khz 0.5db deviation XPR-1: 20-20 khz 0.1 db devation, 5-80 khz (0db, -3db @80khz) THD+N ML: 300 watts/channel @ <0.05% thd (no noise rating) unclear if this is THD or THD at rated power XPR-1 at rated power 1000 watts: <0.5%, THD+N rating: <0.0025% Gain: ML 26 db XPR-1: 29 db Both are fully balanced Amps. So in the end measurement wise it's clear that they do compare and in a lot of cases the xpr-1 outperforms the mark-levinson for about 13% the price. THIRTEEN PERCENT.  Now does this mean the xpr-1 sounds BETTER than a mark-levinson monoblock. I have no idea as I haven't heard it. I don't think measurements are a 100% indicator of how a product actually sounds. If i had to guess, I would side with the ML. But the point remains that measurement wise the emotiva's appear to compete very well. |
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Post by junchoon on Dec 13, 2012 22:22:14 GMT -5
is there measurements for 3ohms or lower?
thanks,
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2012 22:23:53 GMT -5
is there measurements for 3ohms or lower? thanks, wps No, just 8 and 4. |
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Post by operaman on Dec 13, 2012 23:55:37 GMT -5
In another tread I remarked that I was a little disappointed that the XPR-1 has a 2500 VA transformer ( still larger than the 1200 VA of my XPA-1s); I was hoping it would have the larger 3300 VA of the XPR-5
Now with the 2500 VA transformer the XPR-1 ( 3000$/pair) is rated @ 1000 W into 8 ohms & 1750 W into 4
Compare this with the 11000/pair Sanders Magtech amp "1600 watts RMS into an 8 ohm load 2000 watts RMS into a 4 ohm load"
the emotiva certainly looks like a better value but even if it cost a few hundred more , it would have been a better value if it had more power.
At least IMHO
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Post by briank on Dec 14, 2012 0:07:10 GMT -5
I have no doubt that it will sound fantastic, but a claim of "performance beyond the best of the best" can only be proven by a side by side comparison with something like the Mark Levinson Nº53 (500 watts into 8 ohms Monoblock). I bet an XPA-1 could hold it's own against most Levinson amps. Still, would love to see an XPR-1 side by side. Uh no, I've had the XPA-1 in my home and its a great amp but the Levinson wins hands down. The XPA-1 is quite an accomplishment for the money though. |
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