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Post by Lonnie on Dec 21, 2012 14:37:43 GMT -5
All the amps will do 2 ohm so this is nothing new. We just don't openly spec them as such.  As much as I would like to tell you what it does at 2 ohm (which is quite substantial) that little voice in the back of my head is yelling NOOOOOOO, don't say a word. ;D |
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Post by Porscheguy on Dec 21, 2012 14:38:40 GMT -5
All the amps will do 2 ohm so this is nothing new. We just don't openly spec them as such. As much as I would like to tell you what it does at 2 ohm (which is quite substantial) that little voice in the back of my heads is yelling NOOOOOOO, don't say a word. ;D Even a bridged XPA-2? |
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Post by Lonnie on Dec 21, 2012 15:15:14 GMT -5
All the amps will do 2 ohm so this is nothing new. We just don't openly spec them as such. As much as I would like to tell you what it does at 2 ohm (which is quite substantial) that little voice in the back of my heads is yelling NOOOOOOO, don't say a word. ;D Even a bridged XPA-2? Not bridged, that would be 1 ohm per channel! See what I mean, whatever you spec, someone always wants to go lower. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D |
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Post by Jim on Dec 21, 2012 15:23:12 GMT -5
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Post by Porscheguy on Dec 21, 2012 15:31:21 GMT -5
Not bridged, that would be 1 ohm per channel! See what I mean, whatever you spec, someone always wants to go lower. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Just testing your product knowledge Lonnie |
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Post by Lonnie on Dec 21, 2012 16:29:11 GMT -5
Not bridged, that would be 1 ohm per channel! See what I mean, whatever you spec, someone always wants to go lower. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Just testing your product knowledge Lonnie ;D |
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Post by sharkman on Dec 21, 2012 18:19:17 GMT -5
Not bridged, that would be 1 ohm per channel! See what I mean, whatever you spec, someone always wants to go lower. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Yep, point taken! |
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Post by The Mad Norseman on Dec 21, 2012 19:22:15 GMT -5
"more resolving"? What does that mean?  It means there's more "detail". I dunno, maybe its just me,...but I liked the "highly organic and chocolatey" explanation better!  |
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Post by agent9215 on Dec 21, 2012 21:46:45 GMT -5
On my resolving comment, the guys have it right. The high power Sanders amps had the power to flesh out small details while having the reserves to go both loud and deep. Gives you that sense of air people write about. With a good pre- amp it is a smooth chocolate expensive sound. My XPR 1s will be in Monday. They have pretty big shoes to fill. Believe me, if they come up short they will go back, so we will soon see whether they live up to their billing.
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Post by bulldozer on Dec 21, 2012 23:13:49 GMT -5
On my resolving comment, the guys have it right. The high power Sanders amps had the power to flesh out small details while having the reserves to go both loud and deep. Gives you that sense of air people write about. With a good pre- amp it is a smooth chocolate expensive sound. My XPR 1s will be in Monday. They have pretty big shoes to fill. Believe me, if they come up short they will go back, so we will soon see whether they live up to their billing. After a few days of listening to your new xpr-1's please give us a review,I am anxious to see if they meet your approval. |
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Post by highfihoney on Jan 22, 2014 23:47:19 GMT -5
as has already been mentioned in this thread, there is NO WAY that emotiva will ever be compared to the upper echelon of amps in the audiophile world. too many people have it stuck in there head that if an amp costs ten times more it has to be better. stupid? yes. but that is the reality of it. and it will be confirmed by the audiophile magazines that sell ads to these big bux manufacturers. besides, we all know that a "home theater" company can't compete with the big name amp manufacturers, right? I wouldnt bet on it , im a 20 yr vet of ultra expensive Mcintosh gear & Emotiva has won me over , i own the XPR-1's as well as a pair of Mcintosh Mc-1201 1,200 watt monoblocks ($25,000 ) & ive ran both amps dry of every last watt they could muster driving a pair of Mcintosh XR-290 speakers , the emo amps perform just as well as the big Mac's do at 1,000 watts , the Mcintosh amps do have a bit more umph but only beacuse they are 1,200 watts vs emo's 1,000 watts .
I dont post in the forums much anymore so no pics but if your interested in what high end gear ive done side by side comparisons of the XPR-1's with a few of my Mcintosh systems can be seen at audioholics in a thread titled " our current Mcintosh rig " under the same username of highfihoney , not all audio guys are fools , Emotiva is new to most big spenders but give them a few more yrs .
Ive done critical listening as well as full out blast with the XPR-1's on both of my reference speaker systems which are Mcintosh XRT-22 dual column line arrays & My ultra reference speaker system the Mcintosh XR-290 single box array system , on both speaker systems the XPR-1's held their own against the Mc amps .
However in all fairness im obligated to mention that the Mcintosh amps have features like powergaurd ( not a standard soft clip feature )which makes blowing a speaker next to impossible & autoformers which optimizes most all speaker loads & Emotiva amps do not offer those features .
If emo follows through with a line of tube preamps that follow their current styling of closed cases while allowing for tube visability much like dynacos tube output cdv tube cd player, or along the lines of the Mcintosh C-2300 & C-2500 tube preamps they will get noticed alot faster . |
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Post by Dan Laufman on Jan 23, 2014 0:05:27 GMT -5
I believe the member will be well served by his new XPR amps... I'm not losing any sleep. |
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Post by Larry on Feb 27, 2015 11:54:15 GMT -5
I am hoping these new Reference series products will be compared to the super-expensive big boys for power and performance. Emotiva has hit the ball out of the park in my opinion.
I too am looking forward to hearing how good this behemoth sounds. Emotiva has certainly made wonderful claims on how it will preform with statements like the above mentioned "Performance beyond the best of the best." I have no doubt that it will sound fantastic, but a claim of "performance beyond the best of the best" can only be proven by a side by side comparison with something like the Mark Levinson Nº53 (500 watts into 8 ohms Monoblock). That being said, now that they're available the "performance beyond" is here for us to savor. |
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Post by Larry on Feb 27, 2015 11:54:48 GMT -5
Uh no, I've had the XPA-1 in my home and its a great amp but the Levinson wins hands down. The XPA-1 is quite an accomplishment for the money though. in what way? very interested in your thoughts as i have no experience in the Levinsons. |
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Post by Larry on Feb 27, 2015 12:03:10 GMT -5
I own 2 XPR-1's and spent the cash to have dedicated 20amp lines brought in to feed them. The amps are wonderful! I believe that I will own them for a very long time. That said; while "Performance beyond the best of the best", is a great marketing term, its just not accurate. Get a grip guys! I have had Levinson's and Macs in this system that sound much better. They are warmer, more dynamic, have a better sound stage etc etc. I am simply no longer willing to pay multiples for incremental returns. The accurate slogan should be "The highest Value amp on the planet"!
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Post by brand on Feb 27, 2015 14:04:29 GMT -5
I own 2 XPR-1's and spent the cash to have dedicated 20amp lines brought in to feed them. The amps are wonderful! I believe that I will own them for a very long time. That said; while "Performance beyond the best of the best", is a great marketing term, its just not accurate. Get grip guys! I have had Levinson's and Macs in this system that sound much better. They are warmer, more dynamic, have a better sound stage etc etc. I am simply no longer willing to pay multiples for incremental returns. The accurate slogan should be "The highest Value amp on the planet"! Just read this sentence a couple of times. "Performance beyond the best of the best" is obviously a better slogan for a company's "high end"/top product line than "The highest Value amp on the planet" is as you recognized yourself. What are you getting at? Unless you just wanted us to know that you've owned Levinons before? Not implying anything just curious |
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Post by Larry on Feb 27, 2015 19:17:41 GMT -5
Sensei: I appreciate the note and am no marketing genious to be sure. My point was that yes, in my experience, some of the esoteric amps sound better than my Emotiva's. However, when you pay 6x the price and only get small differences, for me, its just not worth it. Now a word on my Levinson experience...Frankly I am not bragging about owning them, I am embarrassed at having owned them! They sounded incredible to be sure, but I couldn't keep them running for more than a few months at a time! They were constantly in the shop, expensive to fix, had power supply problems...the list goes on and on. I finally sold them. The XPR-1's are fantastic, and have been in my system for 6 months and are never turned off. They get me about 90% of what I got from Levinson at a great value. I love them. I invite healthy, honest opinions. Lets keep the ball rolling! Now on the table = The War on Drugs.
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Post by novisnick on Feb 27, 2015 20:00:36 GMT -5
Have I EVER told anyone how much I Love my XPR-1 s??  |
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Post by brand on Feb 28, 2015 8:36:14 GMT -5
Have I EVER told anyone how much I Love my XPR-1 s?? I think 50% of your posts are simply you yelling "MONOBLOCK SOCIETY" and then another 25% are posts somehow mentioning the XPR or talking about them.  Larry Thanks for the insight, didn't know such a high class product could be such a pia! And like I wrote above didn't mean to lecture you. |
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Post by Porscheguy on Feb 28, 2015 9:03:28 GMT -5
I own 2 XPR-1's and spent the cash to have dedicated 20amp lines brought in to feed them. The amps are wonderful! I believe that I will own them for a very long time. That said; while "Performance beyond the best of the best", is a great marketing term, its just not accurate. Get a grip guys! I have had Levinson's and Macs in this system that sound much better. They are warmer, more dynamic, have a better sound stage etc etc. I am simply no longer willing to pay multiples for incremental returns. The accurate slogan should be "The highest Value amp on the planet"! That's your opinion. I compared my XPR-1's to a pair of MC601's and it was a toss up if you ask me. Macs are great but really no better. Just a lot more money.. And remember the dealer gets half of the MSRP just for selling them to you.... Maybe if I had a pair of $50,000.00 speakers I'd hear a difference. But I don't so I won't.. |
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As much as I would like to tell you what it does at 2 ohm (which is quite substantial) that little voice in the back of my head is yelling NOOOOOOO, don't say a word. ;D
