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Post by creimes on Nov 4, 2013 21:18:15 GMT -5
Hello All, I recently purchased and did a quick, simple set up of the Sherbourne PT-7030. When watching satellite channels, and I pause my DVR then play again, the video instantly resumes, but there is a 2-3 second delay in the audio. Almost always, I miss onscreen dialog because of this. It is EXTREMELY annoying. In my previous set up, I did NOT have this problem. I'm a newby to the Preamp world, so any help is appreciated! Here's my current 7030 setup for which the problem exits: 1. DirecTV satellite HR34-700 DVR connected to 7030 HDMI input 1 I1 is set to HDMI audio. I tried setting it to analog and connecting the DVR analog to it, but apparently, if HDMI is connected to DVR, it only outputs HDMI audio. 2. 7030 HDMI Output 1 to Samsung Series 8000 Plasma, input 1 3. 7030 unbalanced LF, RF, Center outputs to Emo XPA-5 Amp respective inputs. 4. Amp connected to respective B&W speakers. 6. Logitech Harmony 900 remote communicates to Logitech IR extender Here's my previous setup, with which I did NOT have the problem: 1. Same DVR connected to the TV HDMI 1 input 2. TV analog audio out connected to Emo USP-1 Aux-1 input 3. USP-1 connected to unbalanced inputs of emo XPA-2 4. Same Logitech set up. If your DVR has an optical output I would try that instead of the audio over HDMI, you will have no loss in quality and it should be faster or have no audio lag at all. Chad |
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Post by bosshogg on Nov 5, 2013 3:49:07 GMT -5
I tried to search for this but nothing came up.
It there a setting for crossover slope (12db , 24db)? I remember the PT-7020A, UMC-1 and SR-120 all had this. If not what does it default to 24db for the sub and 12db for everything else I hope?
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Post by cwt on Nov 6, 2013 1:42:17 GMT -5
Thats something it doesnt have bosshog ;switchable slopes ; nothing in the setup menu or mentioned in the features as the 8100 does .. Found this jpeg which shows the measured lfe slope ; seems steep maybe 24hz ? Expect the mains to be 12db like most maybe  www.soundandvision.com/images/032013_Sherbourn-Proc-Meas.jpg |
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Post by bosshogg on Nov 6, 2013 19:32:30 GMT -5
Thanks for the info... not too happy about not having an adjustable slope but at least it looks like its set up they way I would do it anyway.
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Post by mgbpuff on Nov 8, 2013 14:36:48 GMT -5
The speaker balance configuration in the PT-7030 is not accurate (as several have stated). The sub level is off by 10db (meaning you must boost it by 10db after setting it by the menu speaker balance program. How could this have gotten by the software engineers?
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Post by intgenx on Nov 8, 2013 23:27:39 GMT -5
Folks,
I'm seriously considering purchase of a PT-7030.
I couldn't find the THD figures on the website or the manual.
Does anyone have the THD figures?
Has anyone objectively compared the SQ to Integra DHC series or Marantz AV series?
Thanks for all replies...
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Post by cwt on Nov 9, 2013 4:43:06 GMT -5
Folks, I'm seriously considering purchase of a PT-7030. I couldn't find the THD figures on the website or the manual. Does anyone have the THD figures? Has anyone objectively compared the SQ to Integra DHC series or Marantz AV series? Thanks for all replies... Best not to take 1 parameter in isolation intgenx and in fact some components with terrible distortion can sound very nice if its the right type of distortion but that's a debate for another place  That said the pt7030 measures very well and has a wonderful analog stage www.soundandvision.com/content/sherbourn-pt-7030-surround-processor-pa-7-350-amplifier-ht-labs-measures |
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Post by thepar on Nov 9, 2013 15:25:56 GMT -5
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Post by repeetavx on Nov 9, 2013 16:39:03 GMT -5
Has anyone objectively compared the SQ to Integra DHC series or Marantz AV series? Thanks for all replies... Our own Andrew Robinson wrote two reviews comparing his old Reference Preamp, the Integra DHC 40.2, and the PT-7030 here, and here |
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Post by joelsolid on Nov 10, 2013 19:57:18 GMT -5
The speaker balance configuration in the PT-7030 is not accurate (as several have stated). The sub level is off by 10db (meaning you must boost it by 10db after setting it by the menu speaker balance program. How could this have gotten by the software engineers? That is a good question. I have called and asked about that specific thing. I was told there is no problem. So does that mean this will not be address in the firmware update that we were promised? Joel |
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Post by mgbpuff on Nov 11, 2013 8:22:51 GMT -5
Yes, well there is indeed a problem. I performed the speaker balance test with a Radio Shack sound level meter. I adjusted the subwoofer channel to the same 75db C weighted slow setting as the other speakers (yes I know the RS meter's response drops off at the frequency extremes which would have make me set the sub level higher). I played some dynamic blu-ray movies and the bass was way down, almost missing. Then I checked the settings with AIX Record's audio calibration disc in my blu-ray player. The sub level was down by a least the 10db I mentioned. Now since the level CAN be corrected via other means, this does not mean there is NO problem with the software.
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Post by force10 on Nov 11, 2013 20:22:01 GMT -5
Hi new guy here, I'm thinking hard on picking 7030 up and selling my Pioneer Elite SC-77 I do not mind dropping back down to 7 channels. Thoughts and opinions would be great.
Thank you
Gareth
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Post by novisnick on Nov 11, 2013 20:25:32 GMT -5
Welcome force10, glad to have you here. Watch out for all of the nuts,,,,,
Ha! Gotcha guys again,,,,,,,He,,,,,,,He,,,,,,,,
We're all here for you.
Peace,
Nick
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Post by bootman on Nov 11, 2013 20:32:58 GMT -5
Yes, well there is indeed a problem. I performed the speaker balance test with a Radio Shack sound level meter. I adjusted the subwoofer channel to the same 75db C weighted slow setting as the other speakers (yes I know the RS meter's response drops off at the frequency extremes which would have make me set the sub level higher). I played some dynamic blu-ray movies and the bass was way down, almost missing. Then I checked the settings with AIX Record's audio calibration disc in my blu-ray player. The sub level was down by a least the 10db I mentioned. Now since the level CAN be corrected via other means, this does not mean there is NO problem with the software. I always thought we were supposed to set the LFE channel ~ 10db hot. (If you go old school manual. I usually wind up about +6) www.film-tech.com/warehouse/manuals/TN99051701.pdfMaybe I'm reading this wrong...... |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2013 20:50:17 GMT -5
Hi new guy here, I'm thinking hard on picking 7030 up and selling my Pioneer Elite SC-77 I do not mind dropping back down to 7 channels. Thoughts and opinions would be great. Thank you Gareth I know the sc-77 is in another league but when I went from my pioneer vsx-32 to my umc-1 it was a huge step up in channel separation and overall sound quality but the pt-7030 brought me to a whole new level in dynamic range, my sound stage grew and even my wife turned to me and said during one of her favorite songs "I can actually understand what he's saying in the chorus". If your looking for great sound this piece will deliver, if your looking for bells and whistles and pretty on screen displays this is not it. I'm not a super technical type guy all I can give is my personal experience so hope I helped if not someone else will chime in... Oh yeah and welcome to the lounge |
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Post by scpanel on Nov 11, 2013 21:30:41 GMT -5
Just back from 2 week cruise, and back to listening to the 7030 and really am pleased the more and more I listen to it. I will be upgrading to the XMC eventually. I was not able to get my mic to work correctly to do the eq setup, but will try again here shortly maybe this weekend. I have my DMC 1 on the dining room table right now. and just upgraded my Center, and have an Onix Ref 100 for someone that may need a cheap center.
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Post by thepar on Nov 12, 2013 8:04:01 GMT -5
Just did my setup for 7.1. So far I am pretty impressed by the 7030. Menu is pretty easy. I know a lot of people complained about the remote but it isn't that bad just a little getting used too. There is two things I am having trouble with. Is there a way to EQ from 200 - 500 hz?
Also I am having problems with Bluetooth dropping out. Does anyone else have this issue?
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Post by mgbpuff on Nov 12, 2013 8:39:45 GMT -5
Yes, well there is indeed a problem. I performed the speaker balance test with a Radio Shack sound level meter. I adjusted the subwoofer channel to the same 75db C weighted slow setting as the other speakers (yes I know the RS meter's response drops off at the frequency extremes which would have make me set the sub level higher). I played some dynamic blu-ray movies and the bass was way down, almost missing. Then I checked the settings with AIX Record's audio calibration disc in my blu-ray player. The sub level was down by a least the 10db I mentioned. Now since the level CAN be corrected via other means, this does not mean there is NO problem with the software. I always thought we were supposed to set the LFE channel ~ 10db hot. (If you go old school manual. I usually wind up about +6) www.film-tech.com/warehouse/manuals/TN99051701.pdfMaybe I'm reading this wrong...... Interesting, but confusing. The article talks about dubbing studio settings - does this apply to discs intended for home reproduction. I thought that the high freguency pre-emphasis (for screen losses) was removed on home intended material. I also thought that the 10db increase needed in the LFE was built into the speaker balance program. Well obviously it is not built into the PT-7030 speaker balance setup, but I see nothing in the manual to caution about this. I'm thinking there is a problem with high frequencies also when using the PT-7030 speaker balance program because I feel the resultant sound is somewhat strident. I quess I must get into PE setup and get the semi-professional required tools, but I'm irked that Sherbourn/Emotiva does not give more input on this matter as it affects every set up done by the normal customer (oh yeh -I forgot that this product was aimed at installers not customers!). Also, this setup phenomenon does not happen with the UMC-1 - the high frequencies and low LFE frequencies come out right (but that may be due to EmoQ). |
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Post by bootman on Nov 12, 2013 9:53:33 GMT -5
I was always under the impression that auto setups took into account the 10dB difference in the LFE channel but that if you go full manual, you should raise it.
That has been my experience anyway with different gear.
Even in auto I have to raise my sub a bit with the Pioneer's setup program.
Same with the older Onkyo I used to have.
I did not with the umc-1 when I had it but really only thought, hey they hit the levels right!
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Post by cwt on Nov 13, 2013 4:52:36 GMT -5
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That said the pt7030 measures very well and has a wonderful analog stage 
] This is from the equivalent US model ;