vadym
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Post by vadym on Feb 4, 2014 14:14:28 GMT -5
Sounds like the 7030 is not for you. You have to like what you hear or it's no fun. What do You mean? The tonal balance is good especially for the cinema.
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Post by swampfire on Feb 4, 2014 15:20:53 GMT -5
Vadym, I suggest calling Emotiva customer support.
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Post by sahmen on Feb 4, 2014 15:30:23 GMT -5
Behringer headphone pre amp and an hdmi to analog audio converter and use the second hdmi output on the 7030. Kind of a weird setup but the only work around I know to get DTSHD-MA and Dolby TrueHD to headphones. I think Sony makes some surround wireless headphones that have an HDMI imput and process all the lossless codecs but they are pricey. Or you could buy a bottom of the line mainstream receiver and use that with the second hdmi output on the 7030. Bosshogg: A belated thank you for these suggestions... The most practical one would probably be the receiver (especially, since I have an idle Denon on standby). There is however a little matter of rack-space to worry about, as my rack is quite overcrowded already, which makes me feel weird about adding something that bulky in order to use a headphone... The short of this is that I might consider using it, if I get desperate enough, but the search for a more elegant solution will continue... Thanks again, for chiming in, and if you happen to think of another solution, do not hesitate to let me know if you do not mind.
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Post by vadym on Feb 4, 2014 15:42:10 GMT -5
Vadym, I suggest calling Emotiva customer support. Thank You. I have e-mailed them yet. As I read here You made a lot of experiments with PT 7030. Could You measure the fronts outputs in yours proc when they set at the level 0db. Because everybody know about sub but nobody looks at fronts.
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Post by rocky500 on Feb 4, 2014 22:53:35 GMT -5
It is best to test with a player that can invert left and right channels as I find music itself can be weighted to one side. eg. Voices coming from right of middle and not dead center. This program Aimp3 had an option to swap channels at the click of a button. Great for testing stuff like you are doing. They removed the option in later versions though. Here is a link to the one which still had the option www.aimp.ru/files/setups/aimp_3.20.1165.zipI have used it to test crossovers in the past when changing caps and resistors.
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Post by Nodscene on Feb 5, 2014 20:01:22 GMT -5
Just a question for everyone that has this. I'm finding there is a huge difference in volume between the UMC-1 and the Sherbourne. With the UMC-1 I found that once I hit 50 or so on the volume it was plenty loud and couldn't go over 60 before I would get distortion. With the PT, I'm reaching 80+ on it to get to the same levels. With all other equipment being equal (which it is), did anyone else notice this or do I potentially have a problem.
FYI I'm using the UPA-7 as an amp.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2014 20:10:30 GMT -5
Just a question for everyone that has this. I'm finding there is a huge difference in volume between the UMC-1 and the Sherbourne. With the UMC-1 I found that once I hit 50 or so on the volume it was plenty loud and couldn't go over 60 before I would get distortion. With the PT, I'm reaching 80+ on it to get to the same levels. With all other equipment being equal (which it is), did anyone else notice this or do I potentially have a problem. FYI I'm using the UPA-7 as an amp. I found the exact same thing, you've got to take into account the umc-1 maxed out at 80 and the sherbourn goes to 100.... I also found that when I switched to XLR cables it made it so I only have to go to about 50 for normal listening and 60 is enough when I want to rock the house.
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Post by Nodscene on Feb 5, 2014 20:28:06 GMT -5
That's good to know...thanks. For some reason I always though the UMC-1 went to 100 as well.
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Post by swampfire on Feb 5, 2014 23:00:22 GMT -5
Yep, with XLR cables and the XPA-5 amp, 65 is the number that brings the wife down quick.
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Post by cwt on Feb 6, 2014 4:56:51 GMT -5
Just a question for everyone that has this. I'm finding there is a huge difference in volume between the UMC-1 and the Sherbourne. With the UMC-1 I found that once I hit 50 or so on the volume it was plenty loud and couldn't go over 60 before I would get distortion. With the PT, I'm reaching 80+ on it to get to the same levels. With all other equipment being equal (which it is), did anyone else notice this or do I potentially have a problem. FYI I'm using the UPA-7 as an amp. This is one reason I would prefer a relative volume control readout on the 7030 nodscene rather than the absolute we have now [or at least switchable ] Most understand if you describe the volume as say -15db ; its more universally understood . Everyone knows how loud 0db reference is And its a logarithmic scale like speaker spl's Shamelessly pilfered ;
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Post by monkumonku on Feb 6, 2014 10:14:50 GMT -5
Just a question for everyone that has this. I'm finding there is a huge difference in volume between the UMC-1 and the Sherbourne. With the UMC-1 I found that once I hit 50 or so on the volume it was plenty loud and couldn't go over 60 before I would get distortion. With the PT, I'm reaching 80+ on it to get to the same levels. With all other equipment being equal (which it is), did anyone else notice this or do I potentially have a problem. FYI I'm using the UPA-7 as an amp. I believe Lonnie said a long time ago that the volume on the UMC-1 was not linear, so as you turned it up it would get disproportionately louder. I think the 7030 is more linear, at least that is how it seems to me. I've never turned mine up to 80, though.. 70 is about as loud as I've gone.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2014 14:10:55 GMT -5
Maybe some of you guys can help me with picking up the 7030 and at the price it's going for even with the few bugs it has it is still a nice unit plus it is a true Pre-Pro and I always wanted one. so with that said how are you guys liking your 7030? and would you feel it's better then most AVR's at surround? and for two channel how would you say it holds up to music? I have been following this Thread for a long time yeah I see where audio is dropping off 1 to 6 sec..but not when playing a CD or using other inputs I had a H/K 3600 that would drop off the sound but only in HDMI use ect..when watching TV and using HDMI as the input. again at the price 699 the unit really is a steal..
Mike
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Post by monkumonku on Feb 6, 2014 14:25:14 GMT -5
Maybe some of you guys can help me with picking up the 7030 and at the price it's going for even with the few bugs it has it is still a nice unit plus it is a true Pre-Pro and I always wanted one. so with that said how are you guys liking your 7030? and would you feel it's better then most AVR's at surround? and for two channel how would you say it holds up to music? I have been following this Thread for a long time yeah I see where audio is dropping off 1 to 6 sec..but not when playing a CD or using other inputs I had a H/K 3600 that would drop off the sound but only in HDMI use ect..when watching TV and using HDMI as the input. again at the price 699 the unit really is a steal.. Mike I am happy with my 7030. I use an XSP-1 for two channel listening, however. But I did use it for 2 channel for a little bit just to see how it sounds and it sounds just fine to me, as does the sound for movies. For $699 it is a no-brainer purchase. I paid about $1,080 and it was still worth it.
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Post by Nodscene on Feb 6, 2014 15:41:17 GMT -5
I think it's a no-brainer as well. I'm not really dealing with any issues to speak of. There may be a second or so audio drop but it's a lot less than the UMC-1 and sounds a lot better. I'm finding it sounds better with TV and Movies over Music but a lot of that is due to the quality of the recordings more than anything else (a lot of the music I listen to is underground so it hasn't always been recorded the best). I'm even used to the remote that everyone hates haha.
I can't say if it has more or less issues than some of the bigger brand models. Whatever I've encountered hasn't bothered me at all. My system is also seperate from what the wife uses so I don't have to worry about that either. Of course there have been enough times when I've had to fix the other system as there have been HDMI handshake issues (Yamaha receiver, LG 60" plasma, HDMI splitter).
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Post by creimes on Feb 6, 2014 16:16:41 GMT -5
Maybe some of you guys can help me with picking up the 7030 and at the price it's going for even with the few bugs it has it is still a nice unit plus it is a true Pre-Pro and I always wanted one. so with that said how are you guys liking your 7030? and would you feel it's better then most AVR's at surround? and for two channel how would you say it holds up to music? I have been following this Thread for a long time yeah I see where audio is dropping off 1 to 6 sec..but not when playing a CD or using other inputs I had a H/K 3600 that would drop off the sound but only in HDMI use ect..when watching TV and using HDMI as the input. again at the price 699 the unit really is a steal.. Mike IMO a no brainer for $699, I don't have any issues other than maybe a second or two of audio loss at times, basically put it this way, the cheapest pre/pro I can locally purchase in a store is This One and for 10x the price at $6997 I don't care if the audio dropout is a second less or non-existent, spending $7000 on that processor would get me both in financial trouble and presumably divorced haha. Chad
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2014 20:01:25 GMT -5
Thanks guys for the input on this it does help like I said always wanted a Pre-Pro and I had a NAD the 187 two years ago that one set me back 3 g's sounded awesome but HDMI issues so sent it back now I am glad I did cause EMO's 7030 really seems to be just as good as the NAD and with the new Pre-Pro getting ready to come in seems like great timing for me.
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Post by swampfire on Feb 7, 2014 15:19:19 GMT -5
how are you guys liking your 7030? and would you feel it's better then most AVR's at surround? and for two channel how would you say it holds up to music? I think surround decode is like JPEG decode: it either works or it doesn't. It doesn't really matter where you do the decoding. The PT-7030 is great in 2-channel stereo mode (L/R/sub), as well as L/R passthru ("bypass").
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Post by ericmnel on Feb 10, 2014 11:55:58 GMT -5
I just bought the 7030 receiver, and it is fantastic except for three problems:
1. My xbox 360 can't sync hdmi (I get no video, and the hdmi indicator on the receiver goes on and off). I even paid $80 for a monster cable hdmi (probably a rip off I know) and it didn't fix anything.
2. The component video to hdmi conversion looks terrible, like the sharpness and brightness are turned all the way up.
3. It looks like the analog video -> hdmi conversion settings are shared between all sources, so I have to have them set to 480p to accommodate the nintendo wii, which is sub-optimal for the xbox.
Is there any trick to getting the hdmi working on the xbox? I have the xbox set to 2 channel PCM so I don't think that the audio is the problem. All of my other sources (AppleTV, PS3, nintendo wii, roku) are working fine.
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Post by rosenbom on Feb 10, 2014 13:33:25 GMT -5
I have Xbox 360 connected to PT-7030 and it's working flawlessly. Did you try all (1-6) inputs? Or did you try to connect Xbox 360 to TV directly?
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Post by cwmcobra on Feb 10, 2014 13:37:05 GMT -5
If anyone is on the fence about purchasing this jewel, you'd better get off soon. Last call has just been announced by Jessica!
Last Call PT-7030 Cheers!
Chuck
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