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Post by monkumonku on Mar 6, 2014 21:50:59 GMT -5
Hello everyone, I just picked up a 7030 used off of ebay. Everything works great except for the analog inputs. I have a Mac Mini that connects to a XDA-1 via optical. I have RCAs connected from the xda to the 7030. I can hear a whisper if I turn up the volume to 85. The HDMI connections work great. I did a direct connect from Mac mini to 7030 via the same optical cable and it works fine. I went to the menu to make sure I had it configured to analog and I did. When I go into the menu it only give me an single analog option. When scroll through the other types of connection is say HDMI1-HDMI2-etc, Optical 1-Optical-3 etc and the same for coaxial. Hopefully I am missing something that is so simple I will smack myself in the head later saying "I should of know that. Any help would greatly appreciated. Thanks This may sound like a dumb question, but do you have the RCA's connected to analog input #1 on the back of the 7030? If so, then you must also use input #1 when doing your setup for the analog input. In other words, you can't connect the RCA's to input #1 on the back and then select a different input other than input #1 to assign that to when doing your setup. If you aren't doing this, then try it and see if that works. You would have to assign the digital inputs to #'s 2 and above in the setup and leave analog as input #1. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2014 21:55:03 GMT -5
Hello everyone, I just picked up a 7030 used off of ebay. Everything works great except for the analog inputs. I have a Mac Mini that connects to a XDA-1 via optical. I have RCAs connected from the xda to the 7030. I can hear a whisper if I turn up the volume to 85. The HDMI connections work great. I did a direct connect from Mac mini to 7030 via the same optical cable and it works fine. I went to the menu to make sure I had it configured to analog and I did. When I go into the menu it only give me an single analog option. When scroll through the other types of connection is say HDMI1-HDMI2-etc, Optical 1-Optical-3 etc and the same for coaxial. Hopefully I am missing something that is so simple I will smack myself in the head later saying "I should of know that. Any help would greatly appreciated. Thanks This may sound like a dumb question, but do you have the RCA's connected to analog input #1 on the back of the 7030? If so, then you must also use input #1 when doing your setup for the analog input. In other words, you can't connect the RCA's to input #1 on the back and then select a different input other than input #1 to assign that to when doing your setup. If you aren't doing this, then try it and see if that works. You would have to assign the digital inputs to #'s 2 and above in the setup and leave analog as input #1. PT-7030: User Manual Configuration and Operation Note: The On-Screen Display (OSD) is ONLY displayed on the HDMI outputs. Input Configuration Paradigm The PT-7030 allows any input connector to be assigned to any input source using the Input Setup configuration screen. By default, the source input buttons are configured as follows: Input Input Connector Input 1 Reference Stereo (balanced) Input 2 Tuner Input 3 Analog 1 Input 4 Analog 2 Input 5 Analog 3 Input 6 Analog 4 Input 7 Analog 5 Input 8 Analog 6 I found that I could not assign analog inputs they were set at above settings only |
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Post by HunTer on Mar 6, 2014 22:35:29 GMT -5
Try calling them, they are actually known for their great support so I'm sure it will get resolved quickly. I have had positive experiences when I have called the tech support number so I agree, he needs to call them to get this resolved. However, Emotiva may want to remove their email address for tech support as it seems there have been a lot of complaints about a lack of response when people use this form of communication. When people complain about not receiving a response to their email request (s), the response from Emotiva or other forum members always seems to be that you need to call them to get an issue resolved, do not email them. So why have a tech support email address?[/b] Well, just remember, Emotiva has also an international market, so they are dealing with foreign customers from another countries. Some of them have not any problem reading & comunicating on written English, but may be, could not be so fluently to speak English. Then, the support email address is a must. Just my 2 cents |
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Post by monkumonku on Mar 6, 2014 23:03:25 GMT -5
This may sound like a dumb question, but do you have the RCA's connected to analog input #1 on the back of the 7030? If so, then you must also use input #1 when doing your setup for the analog input. In other words, you can't connect the RCA's to input #1 on the back and then select a different input other than input #1 to assign that to when doing your setup. If you aren't doing this, then try it and see if that works. You would have to assign the digital inputs to #'s 2 and above in the setup and leave analog as input #1. PT-7030: User Manual Configuration and Operation Note: The On-Screen Display (OSD) is ONLY displayed on the HDMI outputs. Input Configuration Paradigm The PT-7030 allows any input connector to be assigned to any input source using the Input Setup configuration screen. By default, the source input buttons are configured as follows: Input Input Connector Input 1 Reference Stereo (balanced) Input 2 Tuner Input 3 Analog 1 Input 4 Analog 2 Input 5 Analog 3 Input 6 Analog 4 Input 7 Analog 5 Input 8 Analog 6 I found that I could not assign analog inputs they were set at above settings only Thanks for correcting me on that. I was thinking about the balanced reference stereo input on the back - that has to be set up as input #1. Anyway I hope what you wrote solves the problem because I suspect the input wasn't set up properly. |
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Post by Noble on Mar 7, 2014 5:29:39 GMT -5
Yes, I made sure of that. I guess no question is a dumb question. I have found the culprit. It was the XDA giving me problems. When I switched the optical cable to the optical 2 input on the XDA it works fine. Thanks for the suggestion though.
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Post by cwt on Mar 17, 2014 4:09:10 GMT -5
Just mention something I stumbled upon while playing with the cec control . Switching the cec separate power on mode activates an equivalent power on standby mode ;just like the umc200 ::)Was thinking it was for remote component turn on/off only - nice surprise .. As per the umc200 just leave it on the same hdmi input before turning the pt7030 off  Certainly saves configuration of the amp triggers  |
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Post by vadym on Apr 15, 2014 17:17:10 GMT -5
Hi,
Does anybody have the list of valid hex codes for remote control. My remote dont work. The Sherbourn site is closed.
Is it posible to send it to my email: vertikal-k@ukr.net
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Post by cwmcobra on Apr 15, 2014 19:14:09 GMT -5
Email on its way.
Cheers!
Chuck
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Post by nickxp23 on May 1, 2014 19:00:15 GMT -5
I would love the hex as well. I have the 7020 hex. Also anyone have a link to the rew setup the dumbed down mode. Have used in the past on stereo but what i have read the new release is much improved. But with lacking auto set up want to run this to full ability, being my 6th pre/pro in about 3 months. Ready to settle down and hang with this one.
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Post by cwmcobra on May 1, 2014 21:50:17 GMT -5
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Post by cullenhall on May 7, 2014 10:54:13 GMT -5
Hello All,
It seems like others have had similar issues but I have not found any resolution yet - curious as to the groups thoughts:
I have an HDMI cable from my Pioneer Elite BDP-62FD to an HDMI input (via 1 meter Monster cable HDMI cable) on the PT-7030. From the main HDMI out from the PT-7030 I have a 50 foot Monoprice RedMere HDMI cable going to my Sony VPL-HS60 projector. I also have a Pioneer DV-563A DVD / SACD player connected to the 7.1 analog input and a component video connection.
The PT-7030 scales the component video connection well from the DV-563A and sends that out the HDMI cable to the projector with no issue. The PT-7030s setup menu shows up well on my projection screen.
My issue is when I attempt to play a BlueRay disk from the Pioneer Elite BDP-62FD its like the handshaking fails and i get no image or audio -sometimes the VPL-HS60 complains of the frequency being out of range.
If I plug the HDMI cable from my projector into the main HDMI out of the BDP-62FD and the HDMI cable going to the PT-7030 into the second HDMI output of the BDP-62FD both the video and audio work beautifully - except I can no longer see the on screen display of the PT-7030 and I lose the HDMI switching of the PT-7030.
Just to test I took a LCD HDTV with an HDMI input that we have around the house and I plugged the HDMI output of the PT-7030 into an input of the LCD HDTV and the hand shaking worked well and I got both a solid audio and video. Its seems that I only have issues when I attempt to introduce the projector to the system and the original sources is HDMI... I would have thought my HDMI cable is too long from the PT-7030 to the VPL-HS60 but it seems to work so well when I have the PT-7030 scale the component video from DV-563A and directly connecting the projector the BluRay player works...
I would like the video and audio from my BDP-62FD to run over the same HDMI cable into the PT-7030 as we have several other HDMI sources and the VPL-HS60 only has one HDMI input - so the HDMI switching of the PT-7030 would be desirable.
Any ideas as to what could cause this behavior and how to correct it?
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Post by cwt on May 7, 2014 13:13:42 GMT -5
My issue is when I attempt to play a BlueRay disk from the Pioneer Elite BDP-62FD its like the handshaking fails and i get no image or audio -sometimes the VPL-HS60 complains of the frequency being out of range. You've done a good job ruling out the hdmi cables cullen . I had a pio 51hd once ;make sure you're sending standard 8bit bluray and not a higher bandwidth colour gamut like 10 or 12bit ; switch of any xvycc colour space and dithering . If this doesn't work try sending rgb instead of y cb cr . Auto should negotiate what the display wants but sometimes if you know what it wants - a specific computer level rgb or component - it can help the handshake behavior |
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Post by cullenhall on May 7, 2014 13:19:17 GMT -5
Thanks cwt, Ill check those things when I get home tonight and report back!
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Post by cullenhall on May 8, 2014 9:25:33 GMT -5
Update from testing last night. I tried all the permutations of color space and even turning of all CEC and HDMI control options. No luck still no audio or video if the source is HDMI. I also contacted Emotiva support yesterday with the same issue as I posted earlier and they suggested that I turn off all CEC, etc. (no effect there) and then test with a shorter HDMI cable from the PT-7030 to my projector - which hopefully I can do tonight - but I have to pull the projector off of the ceiling and move it into the equipment room... oh well. Just out of curiosity I connected our HDTV tuner (we dont have cable or satellite) that has an HDMI output to the PT-7030 and I noticed that with that device it does pass a video signal through (not sure about audio - didn't get there yet) the PT-7030 but it has this slight magenta color (tint) to it. when I connect the HDTV tuner directly the projector the color is exactly like its supposed to be. I attempted to take pictures to show. This further indicates to me indicates that HDMI cable length from the PT-7030 to the projector is not the issue and that there might be something wrong with the HDMI board in my PT-7030. I also should have mentioned that my previous Pioneer Elite receiver had no issues with HDMI in what is essentially the same setup. I do have an unopened UMC-200 sitting on the table that I was going to return if I liked the PT-7030, maybe I should open that up and see if it has the same issue.... Here is the HDTV tuner passing through the PT-7030: Attachment DeletedHere is the HDTV tuner connected directly to the PT-7030:  |
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Post by cullenhall on May 8, 2014 10:28:56 GMT -5
Also I could not find a picture of a PT-7030 in a 19" rack so here is my setup for the moment. This is using the included rack mount ears. Attachment Deleted |
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Post by cwt on May 8, 2014 13:59:13 GMT -5
I also contacted Emotiva support yesterday with the same issue as I posted earlier and they suggested that I turn off all CEC, etc. (no effect there) and then test with a shorter HDMI cable from the PT-7030 to my projector - which hopefully I can do tonight - but I have to pull the projector off of the ceiling and move it into the equipment room... oh well. This further indicates to me indicates that HDMI cable length from the PT-7030 to the projector is not the issue and that there might be something wrong with the HDMI board in my PT-7030. I also should have mentioned that my previous Pioneer Elite receiver had no issues with HDMI in what is essentially the same setup. I do have an unopened UMC-200 sitting on the table that I was going to return if I liked the PT-7030, maybe I should open that up and see if it has the same issue.... That magenta screen certainly looks like handshake problems cullen ; I imagine the hi speed redmere cable is rated for that length because its got a signal booster ? The umc200 would be the way ide go to test ; but less work the better yes Does the 7030's osd come up ok I should have asked before by the way ? I imagine you've tried assigning different hdmi ports in the input setup with other physical hdmi ports ? may just be an individual port the problem ? What happens when you adjust your pio's hdmi conversion to 1080i or 480i/p say in the 7030 ; any effect on the hdmi pass through ? Hope its sorted and it's good you have the umc200 as there's some leeway with returns  |
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Post by cullenhall on May 8, 2014 14:12:54 GMT -5
Thanks cwt. I am not sure what exactly is in the RedMere cables but my guess some kind of passive (no power supply) signal booster/conditioning, as an engineer how that works always seemed kind of sketchy to me but I cant argue with results. The OSD does come up from the PT-7030 just fine, as does any video source I have thrown at it via the component inputs. I have tried all 6 HDMI ports with two different cables - same results. I did set the Pioneer Blu-Ray to both 1080i and 480P - again same issue (to check that my projector would still work in those modes I plugged the project in directly to the Blu-Ray player at these resolutions and it displayed just fine. I went out over lunch today and bought a cheep Samsung BD-F5700/ZA Blu-Ray player for $80. Ill plug that in just as a point of reference and then move it to my garage system Looks like I am going to crack open the UMC-200 as well and see if it behaves better in the chain.... |
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Post by cullenhall on May 9, 2014 8:50:50 GMT -5
Finally got around to doing what Emotiva support asked last night and pulled the projector moving it into the equipment room. With a 1 meter HDMI cable between the PT-7030 and the projector it worked beautifully.
I guess there is just something different about how handshaking works between my old Pioneer Elite receiver and the PT-7030 that keeps my 50 foot HDMI cable from working well with the PT-7030.
As a side note trying another Blu-Ray player had no effect.
When I installed the 50 foot cable I was not sure of the layout for the racks so I gave myself plenty of length and at least 20 feet of the cable is excessive. Thankfully I have 2" conduit in between the equipment rack and the projector (as well as to other locations in the theater - best thing I have ever done - I highly recommend it!) so I should have no problem pulling out the old 50 foot HDMI cable and installing a 30 footer...
Thanks for the suggestions and support cwt!
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Post by cullenhall on May 20, 2014 8:54:29 GMT -5
Quick update. I ordered and installed a 30 foot Monoprice Redmere HDMI cable and replaced the 50 footer and it everything works perfectly.
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Post by cwmcobra on May 20, 2014 9:42:15 GMT -5
Good news when a fix is found. Congrats!
Cheers!
Chuck
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