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Post by GreenKiwi on Jun 6, 2013 10:17:56 GMT -5
He looks SO happy in that picture!
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Post by Axis on Jun 6, 2013 10:19:35 GMT -5
I sure hope Mr Carver has a big say in the design of Emotiva tube gear. Not to take away from Dan, Lonnie and crew, they know there stuff also.
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Post by jmilton on Jun 6, 2013 10:22:59 GMT -5
And my comment about Bob "being mad" in no way implies he isn't a perfect fit with Emotiva!
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Post by chaosrv on Jun 6, 2013 10:33:02 GMT -5
I predict a similar picture of Dan with the XMC-1 once released. Even if we have to get him drunk at Emofest to do it!
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Post by DYohn on Jun 6, 2013 10:51:58 GMT -5
I believe that amp requires a home nuclear reactor for mains power...
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Post by Chuck Elliot on Jun 6, 2013 10:53:19 GMT -5
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Post by DYohn on Jun 6, 2013 10:58:54 GMT -5
You forgot to add a blue LED and a knob...
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Post by AudioHTIT on Jun 6, 2013 13:26:01 GMT -5
WHAT?! SERIOUSLY?!?  WHAT?! That's <ahem> six hundred watts of tube power (!!) in a stereo setup.  My VTL monoblocks are 450 Watts a piece, that's 900 tube watts using your method. Though I doubt I'd have paid over $10K to get them new, I found a nice used pair I've been very happy with. VTL also makes an 800 watt MB! But I can't recommend their customer service anymore, no follow up to eMails or phone calls. There's a place for Emo/Carver here. |
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Post by Ref on Jun 6, 2013 14:45:23 GMT -5
AudioHTIT, your VTL's make my pants wet, you can't go wrong with those mono blocks.
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Post by AudioHTIT on Jun 6, 2013 18:07:32 GMT -5
AudioHTIT, your VTL's make my pants wet, you can't go wrong with those mono blocks. Well then here you go ... naked and uncaged.  Attachments:
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Post by Chuck Elliot on Jun 6, 2013 21:28:53 GMT -5
These are a possible* contender for my pocketbook if Carver/Emotiva doesn't come out with something similar.  NOS Valves *XPA-1Ls are still on the list too |
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Post by ocezam on Jun 7, 2013 7:26:14 GMT -5
WHAT?! SERIOUSLY?!? WHAT?! That's <ahem> six hundred watts of tube power (!!) in a stereo setup. My VTL monoblocks are 450 Watts a piece, that's 900 tube watts using your method. Though I doubt I'd have paid over $10K to get them new, I found a nice used pair I've been very happy with. VTL also makes an 800 watt MB! But I can't recommend their customer service anymore, no follow up to eMails or phone calls. There's a place for Emo/Carver here. Yeah, I wish we could not do that. Power is quoted PER CHANNEL. It gets confusing when it's quoted wrong. ... |
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Post by ocezam on Jun 7, 2013 7:35:58 GMT -5
These are a possible* contender for my pocketbook if Carver/Emotiva doesn't come out with something similar. NOS Valves *XPA-1Ls are still on the list too $3200 for 60 watts? I'm still thinking I'd rather have the 100 watt Rogue Atlas for $2K. Granted, the Atlas isn't monoblocks, and the NOS look better. They're really drool worthy aesthetically. I understand that for a lot of "tube guys", 60 watts can be considered pretty big, but I'd like to see Emotiva push the boundaries a little. Emotiva is known for big power for small money. I think they still need to aim for this in their tube venture. Personally, I'm not interested in an amp under 100w. That's why for now I'll stay Tube preamp and SS power amp. ... |
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Post by Chuck Elliot on Jun 7, 2013 8:26:50 GMT -5
These are a possible* contender for my pocketbook if Carver/Emotiva doesn't come out with something similar. NOS Valves *XPA-1Ls are still on the list too $3200 for 60 watts? I'm still thinking I'd rather have the 100 watt Rogue Atlas for $2K. Granted, the Atlas isn't not monoblocks, and the NOS look better. They're really drool worthy aesthetically. I understand that for a lot of "tube guys", 60 watts can be considered pretty big, but I'd like to see Emotiva push the boundaries a little. Emotiva is known for big power for small money. I think they still need to aim for this in their tube venture. Personally, I'm not interested in an amp under 100w. That's why for now I'll stay Tube preamp and SS power amp. ... Ocezam, That's why it's only a contender. $3200 is pretty steep, but these units are hand built/tested. Emotiva should be able to do something similar for a lot less. KT-120s are the only tube that will give 100W without going to parallel tubes in a push-pull configuration. Even though I could do with 60W, I agree with you though that the main-stream design point should be 100W. A non-monoblock will save money too as it only has a single power transformer, but it makes doing all three speakers in the front difficult for HT people. Maybe we should work on a wish list here for what we'd buy from Emotiva? If we assume the above my list would be: - 100W using KT-120
- Monoblock
- Switchable Triode Mode
- DC filaments
- Tube rectification or SS rectification with B+ soft-start (Prevention of cathode stripping)
- Balanced input (Allows dumping of phase splitter stage)
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Post by bootman on Jun 7, 2013 8:57:44 GMT -5
A non-monoblock will save money too as it only has a single power transformer, but it makes doing all three speakers in the front difficult for HT people. How about a three ch or even a 5 ch tube amp at 100W a channel for HT tube freaks?  |
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Post by DYohn on Jun 7, 2013 9:02:20 GMT -5
I have a 10wpc stereo amp that retails for over $10K. Cost per watt is a COMPLETELY different animal in the valve world than with solid state. Tubes cost a LOT more.
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Post by AudioHTIT on Jun 7, 2013 9:26:40 GMT -5
Yeah, I wish we could not do that. Power is quoted PER CHANNEL. It gets confusing when it's quoted wrong. Right, and into 8 ohms. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2013 9:45:30 GMT -5
> My prediction: whatever they come up with will cost less through Emotiva than it would have through Carver's company.
Emotiva will privide quality and bring down prices; that's their philosophy. But not too much. The whole point of tubes is snob appeal and status; you don't generate envy if the tube amp is inexpensive. Who would buy a $29 Rolex? Tubes only make sense as a premium product for EMO; thus that won't be cheap.
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Post by AudioHTIT on Jun 7, 2013 10:35:05 GMT -5
> My prediction: whatever they come up with will cost less through Emotiva than it would have through Carver's company. Emotiva will privide quality and bring down prices; that's their philosophy. But not too much. The whole point of tubes is snob appeal and status; you don't generate envy if the tube amp is inexpensive. Who would buy a $29 Rolex? Tubes only make sense as a premium product for EMO; thus that won't be cheap. Sincerely, /b Not sure I agree with that, tubes certainly look cool but when people see my system they're much more fascinated by the Maggies than the VTLs that drive them. Most don't even notice the amps unless they're enthusiasts who want to see all the stuff. I bought them for their sound and ability to drive my speakers well, if I impress people with the sound that's great, but I'm not looking for any glowing bottle envy. But it do agree that any Emo tube product won't be inexpensive, except in relation to the rest of the market. |
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Post by DYohn on Jun 7, 2013 11:08:38 GMT -5
"Snob appeal and status" is what's usually said by someone who has never experienced a good tube-based system or who is simply jealous of those who can afford them. |
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