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Post by cawgijoe on Jun 3, 2024 7:35:11 GMT -5
Progress report (for anyone who cares) - For the time being, I have abandoned my AVR aspirations. I lack a contemporary AVR, a center channel speaker, surround speakers, and a subwoofer. And although I could easily afford to buy them, we’re still trying to get prepared to move and the last thing we need is more stuff to deal with. If it isn’t small, I don’t need it at all… I think we’re rapidly approaching one of those inflection points in life where everything changes - kind of like going off to college or joining the Army. You think that once you reach adulthood, things become stable (and that they won’t ever significantly change again). And then life pulls the rug from under your feet and suddenly, in many ways, you have to start over again. That happened to me when the company I worked for (24 and a half years) began going bankrupt. I walked into the plant one Friday and was told that my job no longer existed. I was laid off with no pension, no medical insurance, and less than $41k of non-contributory retirement for 24.5 years of service. Very fortunately for us, my smart and thrifty wife had always insisted that we live below our means and I had a sufficient nest egg to start a successful consulting business that (for an additional 24 years) made us a living. But retirement hasn’t been as advertised, either. Don’t get old, folks - it can be challenging! Since we will be moving soon, ready or not, a lot of things are up in the air (my music system being the least of them). And although I don’t hope to fade off into the sunset in the immediate future, things definitely look different in the Fall of your life than in the Spring. I’m a man of little wit and less wisdom, but the main thing I’ve learned that I wish I’d known much earlier is “be kind to people.” It costs you little and returns enormous benefits. Those benefits help others, but benefit you far, far more. Courtesy, kindness, and empathy are worth more than gold. Now you can blow a raspberry at me and be on your way. LOL. But I’d like to offer a heartfelt thanks to all my friends and acquaintances here on the Lounge who have educated me, entertained me, and chided me when I have so richly deserved it. I’m the better for having known all of you. Cordially Boomzilla aka Glenn Young I agree with this life assessment. We are moving into retirement. Most of my audio stuff is packed. We are in the very early stages of a brand new home build and are very fortunate to be able to live temporarily in a home owned by the in-laws who have passed. We kept the house shared between my wife and her sister. There is no mortgage, just the ineveitable taxes and utilities. We are hoping that the new home can be built in six months time, but are still waiting for a price estimate. So many things to think about with retirement...can we survive on alot less money? Have we saved enough? Will our health hold up? What Medicare plans are good? Fortunately my wife and I are on the same wavelength in terms of wanting to travel, and we both have hobbies. Don't want to sit around doing nothing as many do. In the meantime, life has thrown a curve, a hurt back. Likely precipitated from lifting stuff, though probably already there. MRI shows disc issues, bone spurs, etc. Will be seeing a spine specialist. being kind to people is spot on. Not arguing with old friends should be added to that list. Pride can lose those friends.
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Post by marcl on Jun 3, 2024 8:02:52 GMT -5
Progress report (for anyone who cares) - For the time being, I have abandoned my AVR aspirations. I lack a contemporary AVR, a center channel speaker, surround speakers, and a subwoofer. And although I could easily afford to buy them, we’re still trying to get prepared to move and the last thing we need is more stuff to deal with. If it isn’t small, I don’t need it at all… I think we’re rapidly approaching one of those inflection points in life where everything changes - kind of like going off to college or joining the Army. You think that once you reach adulthood, things become stable (and that they won’t ever significantly change again). And then life pulls the rug from under your feet and suddenly, in many ways, you have to start over again. That happened to me when the company I worked for (24 and a half years) began going bankrupt. I walked into the plant one Friday and was told that my job no longer existed. I was laid off with no pension, no medical insurance, and less than $41k of non-contributory retirement for 24.5 years of service. Very fortunately for us, my smart and thrifty wife had always insisted that we live below our means and I had a sufficient nest egg to start a successful consulting business that (for an additional 24 years) made us a living. But retirement hasn’t been as advertised, either. Don’t get old, folks - it can be challenging! Since we will be moving soon, ready or not, a lot of things are up in the air (my music system being the least of them). And although I don’t hope to fade off into the sunset in the immediate future, things definitely look different in the Fall of your life than in the Spring. I’m a man of little wit and less wisdom, but the main thing I’ve learned that I wish I’d known much earlier is “be kind to people.” It costs you little and returns enormous benefits. Those benefits help others, but benefit you far, far more. Courtesy, kindness, and empathy are worth more than gold. Now you can blow a raspberry at me and be on your way. LOL. But I’d like to offer a heartfelt thanks to all my friends and acquaintances here on the Lounge who have educated me, entertained me, and chided me when I have so richly deserved it. I’m the better for having known all of you. Cordially Boomzilla aka Glenn Young Well said ... as with all of your insights. I find that you have created a central core of conversation in this forum that brings us together on many topics, and at time branches us out into some unexpected ones. I probably didn't notice when I started following the forum several years ago, but just switching to following Latest Posts instead of individual threads gave me this view that includes your threads of conversation, which I always enjoy. We audiophiles tend to fit a certain demographic much of the time. It was obvious at an SVS event I attended last week at World Wide Stereo - with maybe 50-60 very similar-looking folks - and it's even more obvious at audio shows. And indeed many of us are approaching or well into retirement. My retirement story differs from many in that I am not downsizing anything ... well except I am embarking on a serious effort to lose about 30-40lbs! Having had around 15 employers (depending how you count), worked for a dozen or so additional companies in consulting assignments, and been laid off four times ... I've managed to do so in the same house where we have retired and intend to stay. Along the path - including 13 years with one partner and 19 with my current wife - I always ended up prioritizing toys and travel over moving to a bigger house. And so the loop closed at retirement and I've ended up where many others do ... but without going anywhere. By some skill and luck I've been "right-sized" all along. So in four years of retirement instead of selling off or packing up audio gear, I've expanded the system and continue to tweak. Though I have taken some advantage of the Paleo Nostalgic world in which we live to sell off a bunch of old stuff that was of no use to me, but of great value to others. The biggest thing that stresses me, and has for several years, is the lack of kindness toward others that surrounds us. We don't tolerate it in this forum, for sure! But all around us ... well, I don't know if I'm just more sensitive or it really is worse than its ever been in my lifetime. Well ... I won't solve that one, so we move on ... Thanks for the opportunity to have us join your journey Glenn!
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Post by Boomzilla on Jun 3, 2024 8:52:47 GMT -5
I hope I can be like my Aunt Archie-Mae. As she aged, every time I called her, my first question was "How are you doing?" Her reply, every time, was "Oh, about as well as can be expected for my age." And then she'd change the subject.
I loved that Aunt!
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Post by Zombie on Jun 3, 2024 8:57:11 GMT -5
Progress report (for anyone who cares) - For the time being, I have abandoned my AVR aspirations. I lack a contemporary AVR, a center channel speaker, surround speakers, and a subwoofer. And although I could easily afford to buy them, we’re still trying to get prepared to move and the last thing we need is more stuff to deal with. If it isn’t small, I don’t need it at all… I think we’re rapidly approaching one of those inflection points in life where everything changes - kind of like going off to college or joining the Army. You think that once you reach adulthood, things become stable (and that they won’t ever significantly change again). And then life pulls the rug from under your feet and suddenly, in many ways, you have to start over again. That happened to me when the company I worked for (24 and a half years) began going bankrupt. I walked into the plant one Friday and was told that my job no longer existed. I was laid off with no pension, no medical insurance, and less than $41k of non-contributory retirement for 24.5 years of service. Very fortunately for us, my smart and thrifty wife had always insisted that we live below our means and I had a sufficient nest egg to start a successful consulting business that (for an additional 24 years) made us a living. But retirement hasn’t been as advertised, either. Don’t get old, folks - it can be challenging! Since we will be moving soon, ready or not, a lot of things are up in the air (my music system being the least of them). And although I don’t hope to fade off into the sunset in the immediate future, things definitely look different in the Fall of your life than in the Spring. I’m a man of little wit and less wisdom, but the main thing I’ve learned that I wish I’d known much earlier is “be kind to people.” It costs you little and returns enormous benefits. Those benefits help others, but benefit you far, far more. Courtesy, kindness, and empathy are worth more than gold. Now you can blow a raspberry at me and be on your way. LOL. But I’d like to offer a heartfelt thanks to all my friends and acquaintances here on the Lounge who have educated me, entertained me, and chided me when I have so richly deserved it. I’m the better for having known all of you. Cordially Boomzilla aka Glenn Young We too are right in the middle of a move. Sold the house in California and relocated to Texas. We’ve been coming out to Texas for several years visiting as we’ve got two daughters and families there. Still two sons out west but we just finally decided to leave the left coast. House sold fairly quickly in December for what we asked and the fun part started. Packing. I systematically packed most of the stuff in black bins (Costco) and few big moving boxes I got from some neighbors. I really took my time each day wrapping stuff trying to keep from things getting broken during the move. I moved all the valuable and really delicate stuff myself using a U-Haul truck. My youngest son (29) and I took turns driving. 19 hours in a noisy uncomfortable truck wasn’t especially fun. And, the alignment was a mess so it was constantly fighting the wheel to keep the truck straight. We did stop and spend the night in AZ before finishing the trek the next day. Parked the truck at the rental house we previously secured and spent the night at my daughters. First thing the following morning we unpacked the truck with 4 guys in an about 30 minutes. U-Haul was ridiculously expensive because the truck was leaving California and not coming back. It was 3 times the cost because of this. They offered to take $700 off the bill if I towed a loaded trailer for someone else. I declined unless they comped the bill and paid my gas, lol. They weren’t interested and I’m glad I didn’t do it. It was hard enough driving the truck as it was. My son and I flew back the next day after unloading. We had a professional moving company take the large stuff (beds, dressers, etc.). I sold all my appliances, TV’s and pool table to the new buyers of the house so I didn’t have to move that stuff. I shipped my almost new Audi in an enclosed trailer. Dropped my wife at the airport at the same time my son-in-law arrived to ride back with me in our Toyota. I would have driven solo but he insisted so we did the drive together. He literally arrived at the San Diego airport the same time I dropped my wife. She got out and he got in. I offered to pay for a nice hotel and dinner and start the drive the following morning. He wanted to just get going so off we went. Left San Diego about 1:45 pm and arrived at our destination in Texas at 9:00 the following morning. Non-stop except for gas, bathroom and one food stop. Driving across the desert in the middle of the night was actually quite easy. We switched drivers at each gas stop. Neither of us slept in the car. Drive was pretty non eventful although stopping for gas in El Paso at around midnight was kind of sketchy. Once officially in Texas we started looking at houses and different surrounding areas. Literally every day we went out looking. Actually it got old and somewhat exhausting. I’m glad though that we put the effort in and after about 7 weeks finally pulled the trigger. 95% of our stuff is still packed up. A couple of pots/pans, dishes and cups were unpacked. That’s it. House is being built but won’t be done until around the end of the year or early next. Sooooo, this move when completed will have taken about a year. Certainly not a lot of fun and a bit overwhelming when looking at the entire project. But it’s been doable by just focusing on the task at hand. The final move into the new house shouldn’t be too bad as we’ll do the move in stages spread out across a month or so. Honestly I think most of the hard work is already done. Unpacking is much easier. I rank moving as a top three least desirable thing to do behind public speaking and going to the dentist…
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Post by leonski on Jun 3, 2024 13:02:43 GMT -5
Progress report (for anyone who cares) - For the time being, I have abandoned my AVR aspirations. I lack a contemporary AVR, a center channel speaker, surround speakers, and a subwoofer. And although I could easily afford to buy them, we’re still trying to get prepared to move and the last thing we need is more stuff to deal with. If it isn’t small, I don’t need it at all… I think we’re rapidly approaching one of those inflection points in life where everything changes - kind of like going off to college or joining the Army. You think that once you reach adulthood, things become stable (and that they won’t ever significantly change again). And then life pulls the rug from under your feet and suddenly, in many ways, you have to start over again. That happened to me when the company I worked for (24 and a half years) began going bankrupt. I walked into the plant one Friday and was told that my job no longer existed. I was laid off with no pension, no medical insurance, and less than $41k of non-contributory retirement for 24.5 years of service. Very fortunately for us, my smart and thrifty wife had always insisted that we live below our means and I had a sufficient nest egg to start a successful consulting business that (for an additional 24 years) made us a living. But retirement hasn’t been as advertised, either. Don’t get old, folks - it can be challenging! Since we will be moving soon, ready or not, a lot of things are up in the air (my music system being the least of them). And although I don’t hope to fade off into the sunset in the immediate future, things definitely look different in the Fall of your life than in the Spring. I’m a man of little wit and less wisdom, but the main thing I’ve learned that I wish I’d known much earlier is “be kind to people.” It costs you little and returns enormous benefits. Those benefits help others, but benefit you far, far more. Courtesy, kindness, and empathy are worth more than gold. Now you can blow a raspberry at me and be on your way. LOL. But I’d like to offer a heartfelt thanks to all my friends and acquaintances here on the Lounge who have educated me, entertained me, and chided me when I have so richly deserved it. I’m the better for having known all of you. Cordially Boomzilla aka Glenn Young Well said ... as with all of your insights. I find that you have created a central core of conversation in this forum that brings us together on many topics, and at time branches us out into some unexpected ones. I probably didn't notice when I started following the forum several years ago, but just switching to following Latest Posts instead of individual threads gave me this view that includes your threads of conversation, which I always enjoy. We audiophiles tend to fit a certain demographic much of the time. It was obvious at an SVS event I attended last week at World Wide Stereo - with maybe 50-60 very similar-looking folks - and it's even more obvious at audio shows. And indeed many of us are approaching or well into retirement. My retirement story differs from many in that I am not downsizing anything ... well except I am embarking on a serious effort to lose about 30-40lbs! Having had around 15 employers (depending how you count), worked for a dozen or so additional companies in consulting assignments, and been laid off four times ... I've managed to do so in the same house where we have retired and intend to stay. Along the path - including 13 years with one partner and 19 with my current wife - I always ended up prioritizing toys and travel over moving to a bigger house. And so the loop closed at retirement and I've ended up where many others do ... but without going anywhere. By some skill and luck I've been "right-sized" all along. So in four years of retirement instead of selling off or packing up audio gear, I've expanded the system and continue to tweak. Though I have taken some advantage of the Paleo Nostalgic world in which we live to sell off a bunch of old stuff that was of no use to me, but of great value to others. The biggest thing that stresses me, and has for several years, is the lack of kindness toward others that surrounds us. We don't tolerate it in this forum, for sure! But all around us ... well, I don't know if I'm just more sensitive or it really is worse than its ever been in my lifetime. Well ... I won't solve that one, so we move on ... Thanks for the opportunity to have us join your journey Glenn! 'Audiophile Demographic' ![???](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/huh.png) At the last show I was at? Few younger persons. VERY few. More Asian men (of wealth, I presume?) with a few lady friends along. More senior men with HEARING AIDS (can't figure that one out) than any other single group. At least photography draws a younger and perhaps more diverse group. If I had been paying attention, I'd have registered for the DelMar Fair Photo Challenge day..... /AS FOR MOVING??? "U-Haul was ridiculously expensive because the truck was leaving California and not coming back. It was 3 times the cost because of this." We were moving to Florida from Chicago. Horrible idea, but I didn't get a vote. Confronted with same $$$ issue, we RENTED LOCAL for a week and drove the piss out of it....Truck arrived BACK in Miami and had to be towed. Waterpump was leaking at least a pint a mile and needed frequent top-ups.....
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Post by Boomzilla on Jun 3, 2024 13:35:21 GMT -5
One can never anticipate reliability with a rental...
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Post by leonski on Jun 3, 2024 15:09:23 GMT -5
One can never anticipate reliability with a rental... people tend to treat rentals poorly........ I would NEVER buy a pre-owned from any rental fleet.....even if it had complete service records.... but you can learn from a rental, too. Wife once was curious and liked the big Jeep Grand Cherokee. So we RENTED one while on holiday. 10 miles later, she said it drove like a truck and that was the last I ever heard of THAT idea...... I rented a first model MX-5 Miata. With Auto trans. Drove the piss out of it for 2 days and later (2nd model) bought one. Man, that was FINE.
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Post by Boomzilla on Jun 3, 2024 15:29:45 GMT -5
I also liked to try different brands & sizes of cars & trucks as rentals. It gave me mostly a really good idea of what makes and models I didn't ever want to buy. I like the ergonomics of GM products, but not their reliability. I like the technology of Ford/Lincoln products and would consider one if I ever need to buy another vehicle. But my favorites are Lexus, Toyota, Honda, and Genesis. Our current 2018 Honda Odyssey has less than 36k miles on it, and we'll probably drive it until the wheels fall off.
There are a LOT of brands that I've never tried. And I probably wouldn't consider buying any of them, no matter how good they are. Why? An amigo who knows a LOT about the car business pointed out to me that if I ever get anything but Ford, GM, Honda, or Toyota, I might well find myself with no dealer anywhere close after we move. Those four makes seem to have dealers everywhere. That said, not only can things change, but also we don't really know exactly WHERE we will end up.
As a young man, I used to buy broken cars, fix them, and sell them for spending cash. I mostly did Volkswagens, but also had two or three Fords, a couple of Lincolns, a psychedelic chicken Firebird, and an MG (the HDMI of cars).
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Post by Zombie on Jun 3, 2024 16:39:09 GMT -5
I also liked to try different brands & sizes of cars & trucks as rentals. It gave me mostly a really good idea of what makes and models I didn't ever want to buy. I like the ergonomics of GM products, but not their reliability. I like the technology of Ford/Lincoln products and would consider one if I ever need to buy another vehicle. But my favorites are Lexus, Toyota, Honda, and Genesis. Our current 2018 Honda Odyssey has less than 36k miles on it, and we'll probably drive it until the wheels fall off. There are a LOT of brands that I've never tried. And I probably wouldn't consider buying any of them, no matter how good they are. Why? An amigo who knows a LOT about the car business pointed out to me that if I ever get anything but Ford, GM, Honda, or Toyota, I might well find myself with no dealer anywhere close after we move. Those four makes seem to have dealers everywhere. That said, not only can things change, but also we don't really know exactly WHERE we will end up. As a young man, I used to buy broken cars, fix them, and sell them for spending cash. I mostly did Volkswagens, but also had two or three Fords, a couple of Lincolns, a psychedelic chicken Firebird, and an MG (the HDMI of cars). I previously owned a GM Sierra Crew Cab 2500HD Duramax with the Allison 6 speed tranny. Lifted 6” with 35’s. Great vehicle for towing my boats. Only problem I had with it was a blown turbo. But that happed when it got stolen and turbos weren’t given the time to properly spool down. Was recovered and insurance paid the 12k to fix it. 110k miles on it when I sold it. Not a lot for a diesel but I thought it was a well-made vehicle. Have owned a lot of Toyotas. Our 2004 Sequoia currently has 341k miles and still going strong. Bought it new at the end of 2003. My Audi RS5 is a fun car to drive and pretty quick. I don’t drive it too much so the miles are incredibly low. Fit and finish on the car is very good but I probably won’t keep it much past the warranty for fear of ridiculous repair costs. My next car or SUV will most likely be a Lexus. For peace of mind if nothing else. I rented a 2023 Jeep Wagoneer back in March for a week. Comfortable to drive but I didn’t think the quality was all that good and it felt huge when parking.
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Post by Boomzilla on Jun 3, 2024 17:18:51 GMT -5
My last Chevy was a Caprice. The engine block cracked.
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Post by tropicallutefisk on Jun 3, 2024 18:57:45 GMT -5
My last Chevy was a Caprice. The engine block cracked. The cam on my ‘83 Caprice broke at 110k miles. Been a Honda and Toyota guy since. Traded a Pilot off at 190k without having had any issues and Sienna at 190k also without having had any issues. Now on a Sienna with 65k and problem free
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Post by klinemj on Jun 3, 2024 20:35:07 GMT -5
I walked into the plant one Friday and was told that my job no longer existed. I was laid off with no pension, no medical insurance, and less than $41k of non-contributory retirement for 24.5 years of service. Very fortunately for us, my smart and thrifty wife had always insisted that we live below our means and I had a sufficient nest egg to start a successful consulting business that (for an additional 24 years) made us a living. But retirement hasn’t been as advertised, either. Don’t get old, folks - it can be challenging! Since we will be moving soon, ready or not, a lot of things are up in the air (my music system being the least of them) I retired at 55 a little over 6 years ago after a little over 30 years service. Luckily, I got my Profit Sharing Plan from Procter & Gamble, I'd lived below our means and had a lot saved outside P&G's plan, got retirement insurance, and my wife is 7 years younger and wanted to keep working. I do consulting to keep my brain working and "only do what I love to do and nothing I don't". I've got a fun one now helping a startup with their intellectual property strategy and execution. For a couple hours a week, I'll make about 30% of what I used to make in a year. I am good with that. I dread moving. We have a large house (4500 ft2 + separate barn...2 story), a lot of stuff, and I'd prefer to never move again. Our cost of living in lovely Okeana Ohio is low, property taxes are really low ($5500/year for a $600K house on 6 acres), and local income taxes are almost nothing. My wife mentions "we should move" once in a while, but...we can go anywhere we want for such low cost. There's no other place we could live that's so cheap, so safe, so pretty, AND so close to a major city center on the rise (Go Cincy!)
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Post by Boomzilla on Jun 3, 2024 21:44:25 GMT -5
Awesome, klinemj - carry on my wayward son!
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Post by leonski on Jun 4, 2024 1:42:09 GMT -5
I also liked to try different brands & sizes of cars & trucks as rentals. It gave me mostly a really good idea of what makes and models I didn't ever want to buy. I like the ergonomics of GM products, but not their reliability. I like the technology of Ford/Lincoln products and would consider one if I ever need to buy another vehicle. But my favorites are Lexus, Toyota, Honda, and Genesis. Our current 2018 Honda Odyssey has less than 36k miles on it, and we'll probably drive it until the wheels fall off. There are a LOT of brands that I've never tried. And I probably wouldn't consider buying any of them, no matter how good they are. Why? An amigo who knows a LOT about the car business pointed out to me that if I ever get anything but Ford, GM, Honda, or Toyota, I might well find myself with no dealer anywhere close after we move. Those four makes seem to have dealers everywhere. That said, not only can things change, but also we don't really know exactly WHERE we will end up. As a young man, I used to buy broken cars, fix them, and sell them for spending cash. I mostly did Volkswagens, but also had two or three Fords, a couple of Lincolns, a psychedelic chicken Firebird, and an MG (the HDMI of cars). Just my Opinion, but you need a new car 'amigo'. I would NEVER buy a Ford. My Taurus, Ranger and F150 ALL had a continuous stream of problems.......And the dealer had NO idea of quality. But WAS willing to take more money on what I finally figured were 'experiments'. My Taurus, for example, blew burned oil smell into car EVERY cold start. The DEALER wanted to 'flush' the air intake system. I replaced the Cabin AirFilter for 25$ and FIXED. Spilled oil at a change started it all off......And it used about 1qt per 1000 miles........or more. I would also never buy a car from the Stellantis Group. That would be Peugeot, Alfa, Dodge -FCA, JEEP, Lancia, Vauxhall and a few others. Honda is in bed with GM with their Electric Car platform.......I'd give that 4 or 5 years to shake out before buying. 4 or 5 years ago I rented a Chevy Malibu. Actually enjoyed it. But it ran HOT and I suspect if you get more than 100,000 out of the engine, you are 'lucky'...... I would also never buy anything built in the UK. Even the beautiful Jag or Aston models. I wish I could afford a Lexus LC500...... BTW? When I was back east in 2001......weeks after 9-11, I ran across one of the largest Subaru Dealers I'd ever seen.....ACRES of cars and a going concern. A very popular car back where it snows. I saw very FEW Mercs, Volvo, SAAB or 'other' so-called bad weather cars.....Subaru even down to rusted out wrecks..... I think that was in KEENE NH, where some exteriors for the movie Jumanji were filmed.....
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Post by Boomzilla on Jun 4, 2024 7:57:44 GMT -5
Yes, leonski, I've been told that Subaru IS popular in cold climates. I'll put that one on my list too.
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Post by cawgijoe on Jun 4, 2024 8:32:17 GMT -5
Yes, leonski, I've been told that Subaru IS popular in cold climates. I'll put that one on my list too. If you are looking for reliability, consider Subaru Forester...Honda CRV. Both are highly rated by Consumer Reports. I have a friend who both he and his wife own a Forester and they love them. We have a 2016 CRV that my wife mainly drives. Coming up on 87K miles and has been very reliable, knock on wood. Just my .02
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Post by Boomzilla on Jun 4, 2024 8:47:52 GMT -5
Since I have no experience driving in ice and snow, I want (at least initially) some mass around me if we should crash. The Forester might be in consideration for my second snow car, but my first needs to be a tank.
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Post by cawgijoe on Jun 4, 2024 9:19:49 GMT -5
Since I have no experience driving in ice and snow, I want (at least initially) some mass around me if we should crash. The Forester might be in consideration for my second snow car, but my first needs to be a tank. A full-size SUV will be costly, both in purchase price and use. I believe the most reliable ones are Toyota built.
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Post by Zombie on Jun 4, 2024 10:08:56 GMT -5
Since I have no experience driving in ice and snow, I want (at least initially) some mass around me if we should crash. The Forester might be in consideration for my second snow car, but my first needs to be a tank. I owned a Subaru Outback when I lived in the mountains (Mammoth Lakes, CA). My house was at 7,500 feet. Fantastic snow car, loved it. Not tons of room but I always felt very safe when driving in weather. Our snow storms were typically measured in feet not inches.
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Post by leonski on Jun 4, 2024 15:01:23 GMT -5
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