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Post by novisnick on Oct 19, 2015 21:19:56 GMT -5
After further review we've found that no foul will be called.,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,what!!! It would appear that the code for my Tivo is very closely matched to that of the new 3.1 for the XMC-1. This is where im placing my bet!,,,,,,,any takers??
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Post by skippy1977 on Oct 20, 2015 8:55:29 GMT -5
I've had mine lockup with nobody in the room, but haven't had a chance to see a repeat. What I can confirm is my oppo go looked up when I turned on the tv and then all volume steps on the xmc generated clicks going up or Dow...and got louder clicks as the volume went up too. Had to power off the oppo (that was also in DSD at the time. Oppos lock up all the time. This is not an Emotiva problem. XMC made ticks with volume steps because the Oppo is putting out DC when locked up.. I've had one or two lockups with Oppo players in about 4-5 years time. I wouldn't say that's "all the time". At least that's my experience.
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Post by skippy1977 on Oct 20, 2015 9:01:21 GMT -5
After further review we've found that no foul will be called.,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,what!!! It would appear that the code for my Tivo is very closely matched to that of the new 3.1 for the XMC-1. This is where im placing my bet!,,,,,,,any takers?? I'd take that bet. The remote IR issue was already mentioned by digi in the post linked below. So any winnings on any of those bets should go to him.
emotivalounge.proboards.com/post/769413
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Post by foggy1956 on Oct 20, 2015 9:01:48 GMT -5
Oppos lock up all the time. This is not an Emotiva problem. XMC made ticks with volume steps because the Oppo is putting out DC when locked up.. I've had one or two lockups with Oppo players in about 4-5 years time. I wouldn't say that's "all the time". At least that's my experience. I have owned 3 Oppo's, never had a lockup.
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Post by novisnick on Oct 20, 2015 9:23:12 GMT -5
After further review we've found that no foul will be called.,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,what!!! It would appear that the code for my Tivo is very closely matched to that of the new 3.1 for the XMC-1. This is where im placing my bet!,,,,,,,any takers?? I'd take that bet. The remote IR issue was already mentioned by digi in the post linked below. So any winnings on any of those bets should go to him.
emotivalounge.proboards.com/post/769413
To be fair, id already discussed this possibility with Emotiva engineering at that time about the code being so close. You see, i dont really gamble! If you ever see me place a bet, it for good reason,,,,,he,,,,he,,,,he,,,,,, ie; I know something. Coin is really to hard to come by to actually take a chance. But if theres any money involved Id happily share it!
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Post by digi on Oct 20, 2015 9:29:37 GMT -5
After further review we've found that no foul will be called.,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,what!!! It would appear that the code for my Tivo is very closely matched to that of the new 3.1 for the XMC-1. This is where im placing my bet!,,,,,,,any takers?? I'd take that bet. The remote IR issue was already mentioned by digi in the post linked below. So any winnings on any of those bets should go to him.
emotivalounge.proboards.com/post/769413
Thanks Skippy. More Details on my issue: Passthru mode High volume setting in xmc-1 for passthru sources LG 55" LEDTV - circa 2011 (?) Volume changes using TV remote shuts down XMC-1 using the new feature- I will try the FrontierTv(IPTV) remote to compare I have another issue that I am confused about. Every time I boot up the xmc, lately after a shutdown from video passthru mode, the OSD does not work. Occasionally I will get some arrows or corrupt data on screen. I had this issue with firmware 3.0 which turned out having to do with setting the XMC-1 on unit display to 0%. Once I changed this to 30% then everything worked fine. The settings are the same as what I had in 3.0 as best as I can tell. Once, I turned off using the back power switch and the OSD worked ok. I have not had time to turn off video passthru to see the result. Has anyone else had any issues with OSD?
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Post by raydyo on Oct 20, 2015 9:31:03 GMT -5
It appears that there are some issues with other remotes interfering with new 3.1 feature where you can force low power standby by holding the standby button for several seconds. My apologies for this but y'all need to understand that it is impossible for Emotiva (or anyone else) to test with every remote on the market. There's just too many. We get a good variety from beta testers but problems can still happen. We will do our best to fix this problem quickly or remove the new feature. But in order to do that I need accurate detailed information on what is causing the problem. There is no reason to think that this has anything to do with any other system setting so lets stop speculating on that for now. It seems fairly clear that FF in TiVo is one of the culprits. But I use a TV Roamio every day and have not seen this. Is it some other TiVo model? Or is it because I'm using a URC remote instead of the factory remote? Then there are some reports about one or more TVs with volume changes. Or was it the cable box changing volume? Not 100% clear. Is it volume up or volume down? The more accurate the details, the sooner we can come up with a fix.. I'll start looking at TiVo right away. Anyone want to volunteer to collect an accurate list of verified problems with volume? Be sure what the actual volume control is (TV, cable box, etc), factory remote or other, up or down, etc. -ray I have observed the problem here with a factory TiVo remote. I believe that I know the cause and will try to get an update out soon. In the mean time there is a simple work-around. After you put the XMC to sleep, press some other button on the XMC remote so that the last command the XMC saw was not standby. The problem is not a specific remote code, but related to a particular type of remote code. Any remote that uses that type of coding could potentially cause the same problem. Any button on the TiVo remote that repeats will cause it. It shows up in FF because that's the most commonly used repeating button. I don't have a TV remote that is causing the problem with volume up/down but I'm reasonably confident that the fix will take care of all of these. -ray
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Post by AudioHTIT on Oct 20, 2015 9:32:50 GMT -5
More reporting of equipment and conditions like this will help solve the remote interaction problem. More Details on my issue: Passthru mode High volume setting in xmc-1 for passthru sources LG 55" LEDTV - circa 2011 (?) Volume changes using TV remote shuts down XMC-1 using the new feature- I will try the FrontierTv(IPTV) remote to compare
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Post by skippy1977 on Oct 20, 2015 10:05:51 GMT -5
To be fair, id already discussed this possibility with Emotiva engineering at that time about the code being so close. You see, i dont really gamble! If you ever see me place a bet, it for good reason,,,,,he,,,,he,,,,he,,,,,, ie; I know something. Coin is really to hard to come by to actually take a chance. But if theres any money involved Id happily share it! We'll need documentation (times etc.) of that call to determine who the actual winner is ;-). Looking back on previous posts it looks like AudioHTIT was on the right track as well with it being an issue with the TV's remote.
emotivalounge.proboards.com/post/769365
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Post by novisnick on Oct 20, 2015 10:21:11 GMT -5
Im not aware of anyone else calling Emotiva to discuss these issues. If there are more then me please report your findings. There may be issues with "noise" from othere sources interfering. ie; lights, daylight and or other sources of "noise" . Ill get yall more info when i have a chance to share more.
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Post by geebo on Oct 20, 2015 10:46:28 GMT -5
Oppos lock up all the time. This is not an Emotiva problem. XMC made ticks with volume steps because the Oppo is putting out DC when locked up.. I've had one or two lockups with Oppo players in about 4-5 years time. I wouldn't say that's "all the time". At least that's my experience. While it doesn't happen a lot my 93 and 103 have locked up on occasion as has my son's 103. Holding the remote power button for 10 seconds will force a shut down if it's become unresponsive.
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Post by bootman on Oct 20, 2015 10:55:18 GMT -5
Seems like Emotiva should expand their beta testing base.....
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Post by audiosyndrome on Oct 20, 2015 11:09:27 GMT -5
Ray- shutdown problem happens with my Vizio TV remote or Samsung DVR remote. Don't understand the "simple" workaround for the Tivo remote. Mostly or all on volume up.
Russ
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Post by ÈlTwo on Oct 20, 2015 11:22:41 GMT -5
My Oppo has locked up many times, and the only way for me to unlock is hold the power button, as Geebo mentioned above.
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Post by geebo on Oct 20, 2015 11:31:08 GMT -5
My Oppo has locked up many times, and the only way for me to unlock is hold the power button, as Geebo mentioned above. It's like they built that capability into it just for those cases knowing there would be those cases.
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Post by audiosyndrome on Oct 20, 2015 11:50:53 GMT -5
Ray- shutdown problem happens with my Vizio TV remote or Samsung DVR remote. Don't understand the "simple" workaround for the Tivo remote. Mostly or all on volume up. Russ I don't understand Ray's simple workaround but it works for me. Just did the volume up volume down with the DVR remote till those cows came home and NO SHUTDOWN!!Russ
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Post by adam631 on Oct 20, 2015 12:04:46 GMT -5
I've had one or two lockups with Oppo players in about 4-5 years time. I wouldn't say that's "all the time". At least that's my experience. While it doesn't happen a lot my 93 and 103 have locked up on occasion as has my son's 103. Holding the remote power button for 10 seconds will force a shut down if it's become unresponsive. Try to go into settings on the oppo and change to energy efficient instead of quick start up in device setup. Spoke to an oppo tech and told him i was having a lot of lockups, and that is what he recommended. So far i have no more lockups.
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Post by geebo on Oct 20, 2015 12:17:06 GMT -5
Try to go into settings on the oppo and change to energy efficient instead of quick start up in device setup. Spoke to an oppo tech and told him i was having a lot of lockups, and that is what he recommended. So far i have no more lockups. Thanks for bringing that up but I've never used the quick start option. And I don't have a lot of lockups anyway. Usually when I'm using jRiver to stream from my NAS to the 103.
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Post by audiosyndrome on Oct 20, 2015 13:26:44 GMT -5
So Ray's workaround may resolve why some people have the shutdown issue in pass through, and others may not.
I was setting the XMC to the cable input before shutting down the unit and thus seeing the issue. Upon Ray's suggestion I shut down the XMC and then choose the cable input and wahla, no problem. So the shutdown sequence, by chance, left some of us with a problem, and for others of us no problem. IMO.
Russ
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Post by trevordj on Oct 20, 2015 15:48:35 GMT -5
Im not aware of anyone else calling Emotiva to discuss these issues. If there are more then me please report your findings. There may be issues with "noise" from othere sources interfering. ie; lights, daylight and or other sources of "noise" . Ill get yall more info when i have a chance to share more. I called emotiva regarding the shutdown issue yesterday. They told me essentially the same thing: cover up the screen and see if that resolves the issue. If so they could conclude this is an IR issue. My experience is similar to others here, covering up IR input seems to have resolved it for me. Now hopefully they come up with a fix soon.
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