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Post by geebo on Oct 28, 2015 6:36:43 GMT -5
Plus, who listens to test files anyway Geebo - the problem is that the XMC-1 IS causing this characteristic/fizz/warble/pop/crackle sound. It has been confirmed and also confirmed that it is a hardware problem. We are not "thinking" that the XMC is causing it. It is not part of the audio signal being output from the PS3, AppleTV or other sources but is generated erroneously by the XMC-1.
Foggy - these noises are present everyday during everyday use. They are not test files, just very testing to have to hear from a supposedly fully featured surround sound processor that can't play silence reliably and kind of embarrassing when friends come around and their response is "haven't you got that fixed yet?" as if I were to blame for the ongoing problem. Having to respond that the processor has a design fault but I am simply suffering it makes me feel stupid.
On a daily basis it actually prompts me to "RETHINK HIGH END" (Emotiva's capital letters, not mine) which is a boot-up message designed to taunt me.
I'm saying that wizardofoz was trying to help and offered up what he thought might be a solution. He wasn't treated well for it.
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Post by markc on Oct 28, 2015 7:21:51 GMT -5
Yes, he was trying to be helpful I agree.
We should note that it is a work-around, though, and not a solution.
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Post by monkumonku on Oct 28, 2015 9:09:24 GMT -5
On a daily basis it actually prompts me to "RETHINK HIGH END" (Emotiva's capital letters, not mine) which is a boot-up message designed to taunt me. I'M--I'M CONCERNED WITH THIS-THIS MACHINE. IT'S INHUMAN THE WAY IT LETS YOU WIN A LITTLE AND THEN, AND THEN TAKES IT ALL BACK. IT TEASES YOU. IT-IT HOLDS OUT PROMISES AND-AND WHEEDLES YOU. IT SUCKS YOU IN AND THEN- I-I SWEAR TO YOU, FLORA, THIS MACHINE MOCKS ME. IT TEASES, BECKONS, MOCKS ME. PUT IN FIVE, GET BACK FOUR. PUT IN SIX, GET BACK FIVE. BUT IT'S GOT TO PAY OFF, SOONER OR LATER.
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Post by alhull on Oct 28, 2015 10:04:42 GMT -5
If you save your XMC-1 configuration in the system's internal flash memory, and then do a Factory Reset, are those saved settings still saved? Or do you need to use a USB thumb drive to ensure they are saved?
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Post by markc on Oct 28, 2015 10:10:39 GMT -5
They are saved internally. I still keep an external USB backup just in case, but only done a factory reset once.
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Post by darien87 on Oct 28, 2015 10:57:24 GMT -5
On a daily basis it actually prompts me to "RETHINK HIGH END" (Emotiva's capital letters, not mine) which is a boot-up message designed to taunt me. Dig the Twilight Zone reference.
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Post by darien87 on Oct 28, 2015 11:03:07 GMT -5
I've only watched a few movies but so far the pops and clicks seem to be gone for me.
Nice job Emotiva.
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Post by monkumonku on Oct 28, 2015 11:16:22 GMT -5
Dig the Twilight Zone reference. Maybe the next firmware release ought to have the Twilight Zone theme play when the XMC-1 starts up... and maybe change the display to read, "YOU ARE ENTERING INTO ANOTHER DIMENSION"
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Post by wizardofoz on Oct 28, 2015 13:38:19 GMT -5
I updated to 3.1a, but I still have pops/clicks for AppleTV when moving the cursor around. I have not tested for pops/clicks for things like between tracks yet. In response to this post it would appear you are hearing the clicks from the Apple TV when moving the cursor around that are able to be turned on and off. So stop having a go at my suggestion will you please...and describe your situation in more detail, and go test your audio too. My wife and I have 2 xmc-1’s in the house and both have Apple TV's on them with no noises that shouldn't be there and my wife would make it very clear if there were an issues. You seem to be alone in this appletv issue so try another setup...turn off the clicks in the settings on the Apple TV and if you are still having them then you need to troubleshoot more, change settings or ports etc or send the unit for repair.
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Post by cris on Oct 28, 2015 16:14:01 GMT -5
Nope, not alone. Got the same clicks. Switched it off in the menu, all good
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Post by foggy1956 on Oct 28, 2015 19:41:49 GMT -5
Plus, who listens to test files anyway Geebo - the problem is that the XMC-1 IS causing this characteristic/fizz/warble/pop/crackle sound. It has been confirmed and also confirmed that it is a hardware problem. We are not "thinking" that the XMC is causing it. It is not part of the audio signal being output from the PS3, AppleTV or other sources but is generated erroneously by the XMC-1.
Foggy - these noises are present everyday during everyday use. They are not test files, just very testing to have to hear from a supposedly fully featured surround sound processor that can't play silence reliably and kind of embarrassing when friends come around and their response is "haven't you got that fixed yet?" as if I were to blame for the ongoing problem. Having to respond that the processor has a design fault but I am simply suffering it makes me feel stupid.
On a daily basis it actually prompts me to "RETHINK HIGH END" (Emotiva's capital letters, not mine) which is a boot-up message designed to taunt me.
I am well aware that these are everyday occurrences, not just test files, jriver produces these events when used with certain settings. Under the same settings the Big Ego is flawless. Many of the Emo fanboys gave Igor a very hard time for his use of test files to exhibit the problem, ergo the line, who listens to test files. Geebo remembers?
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Post by mickseymour on Oct 29, 2015 1:28:05 GMT -5
Serious question: what should I be listening for to hear these sounds? I have either been oblivious, or have not heard any extraneous noises since my update to 3.1. In my setup I have pops on Blu-ray playback when the audio switches between logos, trailers, menus and extras. I also have pops from ARC when a TV broadcast switches between, for example studio and outside shots on the news channels. Sky News and BBC1 news can both trigger it. It is volume and speaker preset dependent. I don't hear them with the standard presets where levels have been set with an SPL meter. I do hear them quite loudly with the Dirac preset where the levels are set by Dirac. Turning the volume up makes them louder, down, softer. Those that have not run Dirac may not hear them although one member on the board has said they are audible with a standard preset. I don't have another BD player to test if one model is better or worse than another. Very sad that Emotiva can't do anything about it.
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Post by cawgijoe on Oct 29, 2015 5:43:10 GMT -5
Serious question: what should I be listening for to hear these sounds? I have either been oblivious, or have not heard any extraneous noises since my update to 3.1. In my setup I have pops on Blu-ray playback when the audio switches between logos, trailers, menus and extras. I also have pops from ARC when a TV broadcast switches between, for example studio and outside shots on the news channels. Sky News and BBC1 news can both trigger it. It is volume and speaker preset dependent. I don't hear them with the standard presets where levels have been set with an SPL meter. I do hear them quite loudly with the Dirac preset where the levels are set by Dirac. Turning the volume up makes them louder, down, softer. Those that have not run Dirac may not hear them although one member on the board has said they are audible with a standard preset. I don't have another BD player to test if one model is better or worse than another. Very sad that Emotiva can't do anything about it. Thanks for the response. I don't use ARC. I use Dirac for everything. I have no noise using my Oppo bdp103 and switching between the above you mention. I use two HDMI's on the Oppo, the second for DSD playback. No noise there. Prior to 3.1, I had loud, quick distortion sounds when switching channels with Directv. Using Video on Standby. Those are completely gone. Strange indeed.
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Post by geebo on Oct 29, 2015 6:57:07 GMT -5
Geebo - the problem is that the XMC-1 IS causing this characteristic/fizz/warble/pop/crackle sound. It has been confirmed and also confirmed that it is a hardware problem. We are not "thinking" that the XMC is causing it. It is not part of the audio signal being output from the PS3, AppleTV or other sources but is generated erroneously by the XMC-1.
Foggy - these noises are present everyday during everyday use. They are not test files, just very testing to have to hear from a supposedly fully featured surround sound processor that can't play silence reliably and kind of embarrassing when friends come around and their response is "haven't you got that fixed yet?" as if I were to blame for the ongoing problem. Having to respond that the processor has a design fault but I am simply suffering it makes me feel stupid.
On a daily basis it actually prompts me to "RETHINK HIGH END" (Emotiva's capital letters, not mine) which is a boot-up message designed to taunt me.
I am well aware that these are everyday occurrences, not just test files, jriver produces these events when used with certain settings. Under the same settings the Big Ego is flawless. Many of the Emo fanboys gave Igor a very hard time for his use of test files to exhibit the problem, ergo the line, who listens to test files. Geebo remembers? What jRiver settings? I use it all the time and will see if I get what you're speaking of. So far, nothing with jRiver streaming to an Oppo 103.
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Post by foggy1956 on Oct 29, 2015 14:25:12 GMT -5
I am well aware that these are everyday occurrences, not just test files, jriver produces these events when used with certain settings. Under the same settings the Big Ego is flawless. Many of the Emo fanboys gave Igor a very hard time for his use of test files to exhibit the problem, ergo the line, who listens to test files. Geebo remembers? What jRiver settings? I use it all the time and will see if I get what you're speaking of. So far, nothing with jRiver streaming to an Oppo 103.
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Post by geebo on Oct 29, 2015 14:27:08 GMT -5
What jRiver settings? I use it all the time and will see if I get what you're speaking of. So far, nothing with jRiver streaming to an Oppo 103. No settings?
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Post by foggy1956 on Oct 29, 2015 14:33:08 GMT -5
I am well aware that these are everyday occurrences, not just test files, jriver produces these events when used with certain settings. Under the same settings the Big Ego is flawless. Many of the Emo fanboys gave Igor a very hard time for his use of test files to exhibit the problem, ergo the line, who listens to test files. Geebo remembers? What jRiver settings? I use it all the time and will see if I get what you're speaking of. So far, nothing with jRiver streaming to an Oppo 103. Geebo, On the road, will verify when I get home. I believe engaging volume leveling gives me 2 small pops between songs when using random playback. I feed the xmc via HD MI from my HTPC, haven't tried through my Oppo but will when I get home
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Post by foggy1956 on Oct 29, 2015 14:35:26 GMT -5
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Post by foggy1956 on Oct 29, 2015 14:42:34 GMT -5
What jRiver settings? I use it all the time and will see if I get what you're speaking of. So far, nothing with jRiver streaming to an Oppo 103. Geebo, On the road, will verify when I get home. I believe engaging volume leveling gives me 2 small pops between songs when using random playback. I feed the xmc via HD MI from my HTPC, haven't tried through my Oppo but will when I get home Curious, why stream through the Oppo instead of going direct to the xmc?
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Post by geebo on Oct 29, 2015 14:46:55 GMT -5
Geebo, On the road, will verify when I get home. I believe engaging volume leveling gives me 2 small pops between songs when using random playback. I feed the xmc via HD MI from my HTPC, haven't tried through my Oppo but will when I get home Curious, why stream through the Oppo instead of going direct to the xmc? My laptop has jRiver and I can stream wirelessly to the Oppo. My laptop is not always in the same place so a physical connection is not something I want.
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