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Post by junchoon on Apr 1, 2016 3:38:57 GMT -5
Anyone actually ordered and received gen 3?
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Post by rontj on Apr 2, 2016 2:06:18 GMT -5
I ordered an XPA-3 Gen3 about a week ago, and no "your amp has shipped" email as of this time. I'll be using it for my center and surrounds, and am now using two XPA-1Ls as I await delivery.
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Post by ntculenuf on Apr 4, 2016 13:53:27 GMT -5
Still waiting for my Shipment confirmation as well. I ordered mine 03/30/2016 when the web site showed in stock
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Just received an email letting me know it should be shipping end of this week.
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Post by HTfanHungary on Apr 4, 2016 14:11:26 GMT -5
Still waiting for my Shipment confirmation as well. I ordered mine 03/30/2016 when the web site showed in stock **** Just received an email letting me know it should be shipping end of this week.Feedback pleeeeeease when you receive it! Peace.  |
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Post by Jim on Apr 4, 2016 14:13:53 GMT -5
Hmmmmmmmmmm. Hope they ship to some lounge members soon. The general public can wait |
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Post by ntculenuf on Apr 4, 2016 14:16:16 GMT -5
I was hoping that I would get it this week. My wife is out of town for the week, would have been easier to sneak it into the system lol
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Post by vneal on Apr 4, 2016 15:52:28 GMT -5
I was hoping that I would get it this week. My wife is out of town for the week, would have been easier to sneak it into the system lol Sounds like sh** that I do |
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Post by rbk123 on Apr 4, 2016 16:29:25 GMT -5
I was hoping that I would get it this week. My wife is out of town for the week, would have been easier to sneak it into the system lol Right, and a few extra helping hands from the strippers never hurts either. |
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Post by Dan Laufman on Apr 4, 2016 17:06:14 GMT -5
Here's a quote directly from one of our new Gen 3 customers... I just received it on our messaging system.
"Greetings... got my Gen 3-2channel early this morning.....running it non-stop for the last 8hrs....I know its not even close to a small burn in but I had to take a sneak peak listen.....running thru my Harmonic Light Dac to a BAT tubed preamp to a pair of magnepan 1.7i with two vandersteen subs and don't want to get too excited....but WOW this amp sounds Great!!!...had Gen 2(wasn't the the biggest fan and sold it) but this is a whole different beast!!...that's it for now....have more to say after I give it a full sun burn in....TRUTH!"
Sounds like we're off to a good start!!
Cheers,
Big Dan
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Post by Jim on Apr 4, 2016 17:35:48 GMT -5
Here's a quote directly from one of our new Gen 3 customers... I just received it on our messaging system. "Greetings... got my Gen 3-2channel early this morning.....running it non-stop for the last 8hrs....I know its not even close to a small burn in but I had to take a sneak peak listen.....running thru my Harmonic Light Dac to a BAT tubed preamp to a pair of magnepan 1.7i with two vandersteen subs and don't want to get too excited....but WOW this amp sounds Great!!!...had Gen 2(wasn't the the biggest fan and sold it) but this is a whole different beast!!...that's it for now....have more to say after I give it a full sun burn in....TRUTH!" Sounds like we're off to a good start!! Cheers, Big Dan That's awesome feedback! Nice to hear of one "in the wild"! |
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Post by Gary Cook on Apr 4, 2016 18:22:32 GMT -5
Here's a quote directly from one of our new Gen 3 customers... I just received it on our messaging system. "Greetings... got my Gen 3-2channel early this morning.....running it non-stop for the last 8hrs....I know its not even close to a small burn in but I had to take a sneak peak listen.....running thru my Harmonic Light Dac to a BAT tubed preamp to a pair of magnepan 1.7i with two vandersteen subs and don't want to get too excited....but WOW this amp sounds Great!!!...had Gen 2(wasn't the the biggest fan and sold it) but this is a whole different beast!!...that's it for now....have more to say after I give it a full sun burn in....TRUTH!" Sounds like we're off to a good start!! Cheers, Big Dan Hi Dan, care to comment on the "burn in" claim for Gen 3's? I've only had XPA's in Gen 1 and Gen 2's and never noted any burn in whatsoever. Cheers Gary |
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Post by novisnick on Apr 4, 2016 18:34:08 GMT -5
Here's a quote directly from one of our new Gen 3 customers... I just received it on our messaging system. "Greetings... got my Gen 3-2channel early this morning.....running it non-stop for the last 8hrs....I know its not even close to a small burn in but I had to take a sneak peak listen.....running thru my Harmonic Light Dac to a BAT tubed preamp to a pair of magnepan 1.7i with two vandersteen subs and don't want to get too excited....but WOW this amp sounds Great!!!...had Gen 2(wasn't the the biggest fan and sold it) but this is a whole different beast!!...that's it for now....have more to say after I give it a full sun burn in....TRUTH!" Sounds like we're off to a good start!! Cheers, Big Dan Hi Dan, care to comment on the "burn in" claim for Gen 3's? I've only had XPA's in Gen 1 and Gen 2's and never noted any burn in whatsoever. Cheers Gary Come on Gary,,,,,,,,you know,,,,,burn in!!!   |
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Post by Dan Laufman on Apr 4, 2016 18:58:50 GMT -5
Well, there is a settling period for electronics, and IMO this is mainly to allow electrolytic capacitors to reform. I believe a week of normal operation is ample for this purpose. Beyond this, I think it's kind of smoke and mirrors. I tend to buy a new unit and let it run for a few days just to allow it to settle in, and to make sure that it doesn't suffer from an early failure, which does occur.
After I've had a unit for a bit, I give it 15 to 20 minutes to warm up before "critical " listening. Power amplifiers in particular need to warm up a bit to reach thermal equilibrium and allow the bias to settle. The improvements are subtle, but real. Don't yell at me if you don't agree. This is just my opinion.
Now, loudspeakers are a different animal all together. They MUST be broken in. Never make buy/sell decision on a new loudspeaker until you have given it many hours of break in time. Our AMT's are a perfect example of a driver that really improves once it is allowed to break in. The improvement is easily heard! Woofers must have time for their suspensions to be "run in" to perform optimally.
As an example; we spend quite a bit of time allowing the new XPA Gen 3 amplifier warm up prior to setting bias. They spend 24 hours after being fully pre-tested in heat soak at 1/8 power. After this time they a fully re-tested to ensure they meet specifications on the Audio Precision. The bias on every channel is also checked and tweaked one last time, if needed.
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Post by Gary Cook on Apr 4, 2016 19:01:51 GMT -5
Hi Dan, care to comment on the "burn in" claim for Gen 3's? I've only had XPA's in Gen 1 and Gen 2's and never noted any burn in whatsoever. Come on Gary,,,,,,,,you know,,,,,burn in!!! No Nick, that's burn out and not a very good one at that...............a good ol' Aussie burn out..............  Cheers Gary |
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Post by vcautokid on Apr 4, 2016 19:05:08 GMT -5
Wow I am very curious about the Gen 3 XPA amplifiers. The more I hear here, the more I want to hear them. Awesome.
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Post by vcautokid on Apr 4, 2016 19:06:34 GMT -5
Come on Gary,,,,,,,,you know,,,,,burn in!!! No Nick, that's burn out and not a very good one at that...............a good ol' Aussie burn out.............. Cheers Gary Now wait a minute. That is not a stock Holden. I didn't come in that Orange color. |
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Post by Gary Cook on Apr 4, 2016 19:08:48 GMT -5
As an example; we spend quite a bit of time allowing the new XPA Gen 3 amplifier warm up prior to setting bias. They spend 24 hours after being fully pre-tested in heat soak at 1/8 power. After this time they a fully re-tested to ensure they meet specifications on the Audio Precision. The bias on every channel is also checked and tweaked one last time, if needed. This is the info that I thought I heard/read mentioned about Gen 3's, that they already have "burn in" before they are shipped out, 24 hours of it. So I was under the impression that there would be very little "burn in" effect left to be heard. "Warm up" is of course a different subject, one that we shouldn't explore in this thread  Cheers Gary |
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Post by novisnick on Apr 4, 2016 19:09:55 GMT -5
Well, there is a settling period for electronics, and IMO this is mainly to allow electrolytic capacitors to reform. I believe a week of normal operation is ample for this purpose. Beyond this, I think it's kind of smoke and mirrors. I tend to buy a new unit and let it run for a few days just to allow it to settle in, and to make sure that it doesn't suffer from an early failure, which does occur. After I've had a unit for a bit, I give it 15 to 20 minutes to warm up before "critical " listening. Power amplifiers in particular need to warm up a bit to reach thermal equilibrium and allow the bias to settle. The improvements are subtle, but real. Don't yell at me if you don't agree. This is just my opinion. Now, loudspeakers are a different animal all together. They MUST be broken in. Never make buy/sell decision on a new loudspeaker until you have given it many hours of break in time. Our AMT's are a perfect example of a driver that really improves once it is allowed to break in. The improvement is easily heard! Woofers must have time for their suspensions to be "run in" to perform optimally. As an example; we spend quite a bit of time allowing the new XPA Gen 3 amplifier warm up prior to setting bias. They spend 24 hours after being fully pre-tested in heat soak at 1/8 power. After this time they a fully re-tested to ensure they meet specifications on the Audio Precision. The bias on every channel is also checked and tweaked one last time, if needed. Ahemm Big Dan. Since YOU brought up the topic of loudspeakers,,,,,,,,  ? Do tell, just a little bit more then you have in the past,,,,,,
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Post by Gary Cook on Apr 4, 2016 19:13:45 GMT -5
Now wait a minute. That is not a stock Holden. I didn't come in that Orange color. It could be Lone O'Ranger, that's an original HQ colour. Cheers Gary |
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Post by Jim on Apr 4, 2016 20:16:19 GMT -5
Dan Laufman - that's one of the most articulate things I've read about burn in. No fluff, no pseudo-science. Just physics and experience. I always groan when I hear burn in - but it's refreshing to see such a good answer. It's a tough topic to talk about without offending somebody..
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