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Post by Bonzo on Aug 17, 2018 13:31:49 GMT -5
I still think you are misreading what I posed, I certainly hope you are deliberately not reading it the way it was written. Nope, not misreading or deliberately doing anything to the contrary. See below. No, no it's not. Your post more accurately implied that it's obvious that many/most people are not having problems. Not a few, not some, but many or most. If you had implied that it was "some" I wouldn't be having this conversation with you. See below. I think we know for sure that many many people ordered it on day 1 with zero hesitation, or at least within the first week. I believe you were close to that also. That's not time to do any research. Research would require waiting at least a month to see how others are getting on. Some people here ordered it and have it in their house, but have yet to install it until they get the all clear alarm. Yes, but your wording makes it sound like you are "plainly" accurate. See below. We agree we don't know. And for all we know it could be "99% having problems". You "plainly" can not say without any proof otherwise. We just don't know. This word "plainly" may be the translation problem. The gist of what you are saying is this, in one sentence: "Due to the very fast large scale purchasing of this new board (high popularity), the several people here who have posted saying they don't have any problems, and due to the obvious vast majority of owners remaining silent and not complaining (on this forum), it's completely obvious that Emotiva has very many happy problem free customers." If that is not what you are trying to say, then what you are trying to say is getting lost in translation, because that's how what you said originally translates. But if that is what you are trying to say, then once again, I say you are either inaccurate or premature making your assumption(s). Yep. All good here. But on this one I'm done talking about it. I honestly feel like I'm talking to a brick wall here. Just read this post below for the facts we do know, which translates into MANY people are still having issues. emotivalounge.proboards.com/post/956332/thread
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Post by Bonzo on Aug 17, 2018 13:35:33 GMT -5
Oh for the love of Pete... the answer is simple. If you have a Dolby Vision capable display, you have serious problems. If you don’t, then you’re probably very happy with things just as they are. However, there is also a very large “mixed bag” of issues in between the two extremes. Whether you’re effected by these issues (or not) does not excuse the fact that this board, currently, is flawed and is NOT performing as it is supposed to do. After waiting two years for this board, I’m firmly in the camp who’s not very happy with the results and I won’t be singing its praises until it works perfectly for everyone. Thank you. Well said.
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Post by Bonzo on Aug 17, 2018 13:37:33 GMT -5
I do know this....one of you is outstanding at debating and making your point clear. The other is pretty terrible and talks in circles and tries to retract what they say when called out on it You do realize, of course, that both will immediately assume they are the former and the other is the latter... Strangely enough, we figured it out right away.
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Post by musicfan on Aug 17, 2018 14:26:40 GMT -5
so Bonzo....its gonna be the XMC-2
nice and easy
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Post by Bonzo on Aug 17, 2018 14:58:07 GMT -5
so Bonzo....its gonna be the XMC-2 nice and easy Did they say that in the podcast? I haven't listened to it yet.
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Post by AudioHTIT on Aug 17, 2018 15:05:17 GMT -5
Atmos upgrade by the 'Holidays' ... Thanksgiving / Christmas? (I don't think they mean Labor Day)
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Post by musicfan on Aug 17, 2018 15:05:58 GMT -5
so Bonzo....its gonna be the XMC-2 nice and easy Did they say that in the podcast? I haven't listened to it yet. yes
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Post by Bonzo on Aug 17, 2018 15:14:18 GMT -5
Atmos upgrade by the 'Holidays' ... Thanksgiving / Christmas? (I don't think they mean Labor Day) 2020? 😈
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Post by pknaz on Aug 17, 2018 16:12:11 GMT -5
Atmos upgrade by the 'Holidays' ... Thanksgiving / Christmas? (I don't think they mean Labor Day) 2020? 😈 Eid al-Adha Islamic Aug. 22, 2018 Janmashtami Hindu Sept. 2, 2018 Labor Day Sept. 3, 2018 Rosh Hashanah (New Year) Jewish Sept. 10-11, 2018 Muharram (Al Hijrah New Year) Islamic Sept. 12, 2018 Yom Kippur (Day of Atonement) Jewish Sept. 19, 2018 Sukkot (Feast of Tabernacles) Jewish Sept. 24-30 2018 Shmini Atzeret Jewish Oct. 1, 2018 Simchat Torah Jewish Oct. 2, 2018 Indigenous Peoples' Day Oct. 8, 2018 Navaratri/Dassehra Hindu Oct. 9-18, 2018 Diwali Hindu Nov. 7, 2018 Veteran's Day Nov. 11, 2018 Mawlid-al-Nabi (birthday of Mohammad) Islamic Nov. 20, 2018 Thanksgiving Day Nov. 22-23, 2018 Hanukkah (Chanukah) Jewish Dec. 3-10, 2018 Christmas Day Christian Dec. 25, 2018 And that's just a sample of the holiday's yet remaining in 2018, hmmm...not very specific "before the holidays" So maybe we'll see it on Monday the 21st?
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Post by rbk123 on Aug 18, 2018 6:37:18 GMT -5
And that's just a sample of the holiday's yet remaining in 2018, hmmm...not very specific "before the holidays" An excellent list, however I believe your '2018' is too specific...
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Post by Priapulus on Aug 18, 2018 7:20:27 GMT -5
This is good news. It suggests a firmware (software) problem rather than a hardware problem. So is fixable with a software upgrade. /b Let's hope so, but just because they share two components (the Panasonic HDMI switches and transmitter) does not mean the boards are the same. There are other components on the boards (that I'm sure are different) that may or may not be contributing to the issues, but I don't personally believe that to be the case. True. But I understand a problem with a previous processor was that they chose the wrong chipset, which presented with surmountable problems. This time we know the chips are winners... /b
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Post by Priapulus on Aug 18, 2018 7:23:00 GMT -5
Atmos upgrade by the 'Holidays' ... Thanksgiving / Christmas? (I don't think they mean Labor Day) If the XMC-1 is discontinued, is the Atmos board still needed (besides by us ungraders)? /b
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Post by ÈlTwo on Aug 18, 2018 9:11:41 GMT -5
It was always only needed by us upgraders. What will you be using for ampflication of the extra channels?
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Post by AudioHTIT on Aug 18, 2018 9:37:46 GMT -5
Atmos upgrade by the 'Holidays' ... Thanksgiving / Christmas? (I don't think they mean Labor Day) If the XMC-1 is discontinued, is the Atmos board still needed (besides by us ungraders)? /b Whether the board is the same between the three units is yet to be seen, but much of the work should be portable to all the platforms. It was always only needed by us upgraders. What will you be using for ampflication of the extra channels? Another good question I’ve also been pondering, and (if you want Atmos) one you’ll have to tackle whether you upgrade the XMC-1, or go with the XMC-2 or RMC-1.
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Post by AudioHTIT on Aug 18, 2018 9:48:35 GMT -5
It was always only needed by us upgraders. What will you be using for ampflication of the extra channels? Personally I’d like something like a Class D version of the XPA G3 — expandable / configurable, possibly a smaller chassis. I’d probably keep my XPA-7 for mains and surround and add this for Atmos, but if it had the options and the power, I wouldn’t be opposed to trying a single box for everything.
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Post by ÈlTwo on Aug 18, 2018 13:11:12 GMT -5
It was always only needed by us upgraders. What will you be using for ampflication of the extra channels? Another good question I’ve also been pondering, and (if you want Atmos) one you’ll have to tackle whether you upgrade the XMC-1, or go with the XMC-2 or RMC-1. The pocketbook and the wife say: upgrade the XMC-1.
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Post by AudioHTIT on Aug 18, 2018 13:17:39 GMT -5
Another good question I’ve also been pondering, and (if you want Atmos) one you’ll have to tackle whether you upgrade the XMC-1, or go with the XMC-2 or RMC-1. The pocketbook and the wife say: upgrade the XMC-1. Right, I wrote that poorly. I meant we’ll all need to figure out the amp situation regardless of the processor path we take.
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Post by jjkessler on Aug 18, 2018 15:18:49 GMT -5
Planning on redoing the entire system layout once i get an XMC-1 or XMC-2 with ATMOS. New power runs, new cable routing, Etc. I'm set up to to run ATMOS 7.2.4 entirely with mono-blocks. 3 XPA-1 for the mains and center, and 8 XPA-1L for all surround and height channels. I have been extremely pleased with my Emo Amps and will keep them long term. Everything is run with balanced XLR cables. Trying to decide which Blue Ray player to move forward with and have both the Oppo 105 D and 203 units where I will part with one. Seems like the 203 is the best path forward with 4K (as soon as the true 4K laser projectors come down in price). Perfect winter project and looks like it might line up with some sort of Emotiva ATMOS capable device. becoming available Might just have to also put some consideration into the RMC-1 and will look at all options once known (upgrade current XMC-1 to ATMOS is available, XMC-2, or RMC-1)
I'm thinking Oppo 203 that I have says it supports 4K UHD video, HDR, and Dolby vision where I don't think my Oppo 105D will
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Post by rhale64 on Aug 18, 2018 16:02:59 GMT -5
Oppo 105 will not support any of those. Best to keep the 203 for those features.
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Post by jjkessler on Aug 18, 2018 16:08:35 GMT -5
My thoughts as well
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