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Post by doc1963 on Mar 25, 2017 4:17:48 GMT -5
I could not get my 700, to accept the download, on any, of my 3 flash drives, which were older drives, and formatted to FAT32. I borrowed my neighbor's 3.0 flash drive, and it worked flawlessly. My Sandisk Extreme is a 3.0 drive. When this did not work, I tried a much older (8 years) 2.0 drive. This did not work either. I also put all other files in a folder to prevent any potential conflicts. Thanks for the info all the same. I appreciate you trying. By chance, were these thumb drives formatted on a Mac...? If so, was "Master Boot Record" also selected (along with FAT32) rather than GUID (which the Mac chooses by default)? Some devices are sensitive to mass storage not containing a MBR boot sector. Just a shot...
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Post by sydhaynes on Mar 25, 2017 8:44:21 GMT -5
I borrowed my neighbor's 3.0 flash drive, and it worked flawlessly. David, Do you recall what brand drive this was? I'd like to have a compatible drive ready to avoid any additional issues. -Syd
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Post by fuerstrainier on Apr 5, 2017 12:45:19 GMT -5
I just tried to install the 2.9.0 firmware update that's provided for download, but did not have any luck yet. Tried a couple of (older) USB Sticks, but the MC-700 did not recognize any. Can you please propose a USB Stick that works?
Also a change-report for the update would be nice.
~Rainier
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Post by Axis on Apr 5, 2017 12:48:25 GMT -5
I just tried to install the 2.9.0 firmware update that's provided for download, but did not have any luck yet. Tried a couple of (older) USB Sticks, but the MC-700 did not recognize any. Can you please propose a USB Stick that works? Also a change-report for the update would be nice. ~Rainier Stand by and you will get a proper answer to this. Have nice day.
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Post by fuerstrainier on Apr 5, 2017 13:07:10 GMT -5
Found a working one shortly after the post: The promotion gift for Steep on the PS4 worked. None of my "professional" ones did however.
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Post by Axis on Apr 5, 2017 13:16:34 GMT -5
Found a working one shortly after the post: The promotion gift for Steep on the PS4 worked. None of my "professional" ones did however. I have a feeling there will be others that have this question and there plenty of folks here that know the answer. Does it need to be formatted FAT ?
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Post by KeithL on Apr 5, 2017 14:12:07 GMT -5
In order to successfully do a firmware update on the MC-700 your USB stick has to have a standard FAT32 format. * USB sticks formatted FAT32 on a Windows computer usually work. * USB sticks bought preformatted in a store as "for use with a Mac or PC" usually work * USB sticks formatted as FAT32 on an Apple computer with the default settings will NOT work We have occasionally had reports of specific sticks refusing to work, but it doesn't seem to be related to a specific brand or size. (It may be specific quirks of certain models of stick - and different units of the same model may be internally different.) As of now we do NOT know of any specific brand or model of stick that will consistently NOT work. Found a working one shortly after the post: The promotion gift for Steep on the PS4 worked. None of my "professional" ones did however. I have a feeling there will be others that have this question and there plenty of folks here that know the answer. Does it need to be formatted FAT ?
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Post by davidkpar on Apr 5, 2017 21:13:48 GMT -5
I borrowed my neighbor's 3.0 flash drive, and it worked flawlessly. David, Do you recall what brand drive this was? I'd like to have a compatible drive ready to avoid any additional issues. -Syd Hey Syd: It was a SanDisk Ultra USB 3.0. 16 GB. Hope you get one, to work! David
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Post by sydhaynes on Apr 6, 2017 6:28:04 GMT -5
David, Do you recall what brand drive this was? I'd like to have a compatible drive ready to avoid any additional issues. -Syd Hey Syd: It was a SanDisk Ultra USB 3.0. 16 GB. Hope you get one, to work! David
David,
I found that my Kingston DTR3.0 G2 32 GB USB drive worked perfectly, thank you for the information though.
-Syd
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Post by rbk123 on Apr 10, 2017 8:21:29 GMT -5
I have to say I've been pretty impressed with the 2.9.0 beta firmware. The audio sync'ing appears to be faster, but also so far it hasn't gotten confused and out of sync once (which happened only occasionally once I switched to premium cables). Haven't had a single problem that I could even report so far (knock on wood).
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Post by darklogix on Jun 2, 2017 10:11:03 GMT -5
I've been on 2.9.0 since it showed up on the product page, it does seem improved but still has issues.
Occasionally it won't sync when my computer via HDMI is trying to send 192khz/24bit audio. ARC (and or HDMI-CEC) is still not right, it seems to not intercept and/or send it's on ARC data to the TV, my Samsung UHD player will sometimes send this data and trigger the TV to switch to doing ARC and thus allow the TV remote to control the volume of the processor instead of it's own speakers. this also means if I opt to watch an app on the TV then the MC-700 doesn't get any audio.
I do have the MC-700 plugged into the ARC port of the TV.
As I said it seems to not intercept the signal from the device or send it's own so when it gets triggered by a device then it works until the input is changed.
Also the HDMI-CEC still isn't quite right, it only works if the device I want to switch to had already been displaying content.
IE if I turn on the MC-700 and it's on Input 2 Roku4 and I start chromecasting to my ChromeCast ultra input 5 it doesn't switch. But if I manually switch the input to 5 cast for a bit, then manually switch to input 2, and then start casting it'll switch on it's own.
My prior experience with HDMI-CEC when the devices were directly connected to the TV (and with my other TV where devices are still connected directly) is as follows. I was able to just turn on the TV and no matter which input the TV was set to if I start interacting with the roku then it would switch and if I started chromecasting it would switch to the chromecast (the roku part only started after I turned on HDMI-CEC on the roku, it's on on the Chromecast by default)
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Post by berg on Jul 19, 2017 5:15:34 GMT -5
Is the general consensus yey or ney, in regards to the MC-700 at this point? Im about to jump the gun on an A-300, to power my umc-1, but seeing that the shipping price overseas is about the same for the BasX Pro and amp combined, compared to the A-300 shipped alone, I were contemplating that this might just be the time to retire the umc-1. I do know that the MC-700 does not support Atmos, but for me Atmos is not important, as where I live now, and the new place we are building most likely cannot accomodate the use of it, at least in the eyes of the Boss with that in mind, the lack of Atmos is not as big of a factor as it could have been. What I'm more intrested in is do the Unit support Dolby Vision, and is it a must have, for when I'm upgrading my tv?
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Post by KeithL on Jul 19, 2017 9:34:30 GMT -5
The MC-700 is HDMI 2.0a - so it will not support Dolby Vision. Note that there is now at least one other type of Dynamic HDR in competition with Dolby Vision (HDR10+) ... (nobody knows who will win that fight - and, according to the spec, the MC-700 will probably support HDR10+.) Is the general consensus yey or ney, in regards to the MC-700 at this point? Im about to jump the gun on an A-300, to power my umc-1, but seeing that the shipping price overseas is about the same for the BasX Pro and amp combined, compared to the A-300 shipped alone, I were contemplating that this might just be the time to retire the umc-1. I do know that the MC-700 does not support Atmos, but for me Atmos is not important, as where I live now, and the new place we are building most likely cannot accomodate the use of it, at least in the eyes of the Boss with that in mind, the lack of Atmos is not as big of a factor as it could have been. What I'm more intrested in is do the Unit support Dolby Vision, and is it a must have, for when I'm upgrading my tv?
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Post by goozoo on Jul 19, 2017 9:43:11 GMT -5
berg, as system designers and custom installers, we try and steer clear of the MC-700 because of all the documented issues that people seem to have with it. With what you are asking, there are upcoming (next few months) processors from other mfgr's that we feel would be a better fit and offer all the features and benefits including Dolby Vision. Given that this is Emo's site that's all that I can say out of respect to them. Take your time and find the right fit for you. You already have a UMC1, so no rush with so much on the horizon. Also, they do make ATMOS enabled speakers more appealing to the boss and with new construction, there are a myriad of solutions to implement ATMOS with a higher WAF where she gets to have the esthetics and both of you enjoy the sound.
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Post by berg on Jul 23, 2017 7:55:10 GMT -5
Thanks for the reply guys, have to go back to the drawing board and pounder a little more.
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Post by 2muchht on Jul 23, 2017 12:47:45 GMT -5
The MC-700 is HDMI 2.0a - so it will not support Dolby Vision. Note that there is now at least one other type of Dynamic HDR in competition with Dolby Vision (HDR10+) ... (nobody knows who will win that fight - and, according to the spec, the MC-700 will probably support HDR10+.) Actually, it's the other way around. The way the Dolby VIsion works allows it to pass through HDMI back to 1.4. Thus, the MC-700 should handle it. If it doesn't, then that just doesn't make sense and something is wrong with the design or implementation. After all, look at the MANY products at HDMI 2.0a in the market, including AVRs, Surround Sound Processors, UltraHD Blu ray players, the ChromeCast Ultra and, of course, TV sets that show Dolby Vision through HDMI 2.0 and 2.0a. HDR-10 is a different matter. It DOES need HDMI 2.0a folded into the total stream. If the MC-700 passes HDR-10, it will definately pass Dolby Vision. As a repeater, not a sink, it should, at least in theory, also properly pass along HLG, which is starting to gain traction for live broadcast of sports and, sooner than later, "Advanced HDR from Technicolor". Both of those use static metadata technology. HDR-10+ is a different story. It is based on ST-2094-40 as an open standard that allows dynamic metadata. It's already part of 2017 Samsung TV sets, but there you avoid the HDMI question as it is now only available via in-set streaming apps. For HDR-10+ carried through the signal chain from source to repeater (that's your AVR or SSP) to the sink (that's the display) it is still not announced as to whether it will beed to wait for HDMI 2.1 or if it can fit through current HDMI 2.0b. There is some discussion in the community, including at Samsung's recent conference on the subject for the Hollywood "creatives" as to whether or not the extra overhead will push it beyong 18Gbps or not. Samsung has not officially commented on that yet. Bottom line: current itterations of HDMI 2.0a should and DO work with Dolby Vision AND HDR-10. Same for HLG and Technicolor. HDR-10+ is not formally announced yet in that regard. Remember, we are talking here about repeaters, not displays. A display needs to deal with the ST-2084 AND the metadata (for HDR-10 and Dolby Vision -- HDR-10+ uses ST-2094-40). That is only part of the function of the HDMI pipe. Does anyone out there with an MC-700 also have one of the Dolby Vision sets from Vizio, LG and soon the Sony A1E along with an Oppo 203 so tht they can test this out and report to us? That would solve this once and for all. Sorry to be geeky, but hope this helps.
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Post by davidkpar on Jul 26, 2017 14:01:59 GMT -5
RE: MC-700 Firmware Updating Issues...
Guys, I/we tried everything (including a flash drive, that Keith KNEW worked, in his shop unit, and had sent to me), to get my 700, to accept the newest firmware, to no avail...until, I did a factory reset, on my unit. Poof - it worked perfectly. So, if you are having trouble, with your 700 accepting a firmware update, trying multiple different flash drives, etc., do a factory reset, and try again! I was about to send back the unit, with Keith, Lonnie, and me, thinking it may have a defective USB port, before I remembered, that the last time, I tried to update, I had to do the factory reset, first. (As a precaution, I also took pictures, of all the menu pages, with the settings, before I did the reset.)
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Post by paulrcalderon on Sept 12, 2017 17:19:07 GMT -5
RE: MC-700 Firmware Updating Issues... Guys, I/we tried everything (including a flash drive, that Keith KNEW worked, in his shop unit, and had sent to me), to get my 700, to accept the newest firmware, to no avail...until, I did a factory reset, on my unit. Poof - it worked perfectly. So, if you are having trouble, with your 700 accepting a firmware update, trying multiple different flash drives, etc., do a factory reset, and try again! I was about to send back the unit, with Keith, Lonnie, and me, thinking it may have a defective USB port, before I remembered, that the last time, I tried to update, I had to do the factory reset, first. (As a precaution, I also took pictures, of all the menu pages, with the settings, before I did the reset.) That sounds wonderful, but I've done just that with no avail. Here is my letter today to Emotiva: OK guys and gals: The only other possibility for 2.9.2 not loading on my MC700 is the procedure in the manual is wrong. I doubt it since the update to 2.9.0 went flawlessly months ago. But this is my procedure. 1. I turn off the power switch on the back. 2. Insert the thumb drive (with the 2.9.2 firmware update I've downloaded to my Macbook and dragged and dropped to the thumb drive) 3. turn on the back power switch 4. when the front power switch stops blinking amber I turn on the unit. It takes two pushes of the front button for the unit to turn on to blue. 5. The unit powers up, "loading" shows on the front blue screen, and then what comes up time after time is "version 2.9.0" not "version 2.9.2" which is what I should expect to see right? OK folks, you've got to tell me what I did wrong, or what is going on here. I'm done messing with it! My only glitch thus far in 2.9.0: When switching to input 4 (comcast tv) from input 1 (Roku streaming) about every once in 2-3 times it won't do it and the screen goes blank and the tv says "no signal." I then reboot the MC700 and it is on input 4(comcast) and all is well. It's an annoyance, especially when my wife is using it and it doesn't work. You understand my plight right? I hoped 2.9.2 might have a fix for this. So your attention, suggestions and help would be more than welcome. Thanks, Paul Calderon A dedicated and loyal MC700 sufferer. 206-890-2377 (cell) PS: Oh yes, I did a load default twice before each attempt, so that ain't it.
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Post by paulrcalderon on Sept 12, 2017 17:24:02 GMT -5
I'm trying to update to 2.9.2 with no luck. Any help now is more than welcome. Here's my email response sent today:
OK guys and gals:
The only other possibility for 2.9.2 not loading on my MC700 is the procedure in the manual is wrong. I doubt it since the update to 2.9.0 went flawlessly months ago. But this is my procedure for 2.9.2.
1. I turn off the power switch on the back. 2. Insert the thumb drive (with the 2.9.2 firmware update I've downloaded and dragged and dropped from my mac to the thumb drive) 3. turn on the back power switch 4. when the front power switch stops blinking amber I turn on the unit. It takes two pushes of the front button for the unit to turn on to blue. 5. The unit powers up, "loading" shows on the front blue screen, and then what comes up time after time is "version 2.9.0" not "version 2.9.2" which is what I should expect to see right?
OK folks, you've got to tell me what I did wrong, or what is going on here. I'm done messing with it!
My only glitch thus far in 2.9.0: When switching to input 4 (comcast tv) from input 1 (Roku streaming) (DSP 2.2) about every once in 2-3 times it won't do it and the screen goes blank and the tv says "no signal." I then reboot the MC700 and it is on input 4(comcast) and all is well. It's an annoyance, especially when my wife is using it and it doesn't work. You understand my plight right? I hoped 2.9.2 might have a fix for this.
So your attention, suggestions and help would be more than welcome. Thanks,
Paul Calderon A dedicated and loyal MC700 sufferer. 206-890-2377 (cell)
PS: Oh yes, I did a load default twice, so that ain't it.
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Post by leefdalucky on Sept 13, 2017 7:59:21 GMT -5
Silly Question Paul: Did you stick the USB into the correct USB slot? There's 2 different ones in the back, and I must confess while I was stumbling blindly trying to upgrade in my dark basement, I stuck the key in the BluetoothUSB port by accident. *laughs* that actually took me quite a while to figure that one out. Man, i was upset. Heh.
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