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Post by briguy on Aug 1, 2016 8:49:22 GMT -5
Long time lurker, first time poster and owner of a lovely UPA-200...I was wondering with the proliferation of Atmos and DTS:X, why Emotiva didn't launch a voice/timbre matched set of in-ceiling speakers for the use of overhead effects channels as part of the new Airmotiv line. I realize the E1 speakers are small and can be placed high on the wall, but this really isn't the ideal location. Having said that, anyone have any thoughts on recessing the E1's in my floor joists (basement HT room), so that when completed they will be flush with the ceiling? Would they work like that? Would they have the proper wide dispersion and frequency range requirements? Thanks for the input everyone!
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Post by klinemj on Aug 1, 2016 13:50:04 GMT -5
Long time lurker, first time poster and owner of a lovely UPA-200...I was wondering with the proliferation of Atmos and DTS:X, why Emotiva didn't launch a voice/timbre matched set of in-ceiling speakers for the use of overhead effects channels as part of the new Airmotiv line. I realize the E1 speakers are small and can be placed high on the wall, but this really isn't the ideal location. Having said that, anyone have any thoughts on recessing the E1's in my floor joists (basement HT room), so that when completed they will be flush with the ceiling? Would they work like that? Would they have the proper wide dispersion and frequency range requirements? Thanks for the input everyone! I have heard some say that mounting a speaker horizontally that was intended to be mounted vertically can be non-optimum. Can't recall exactly why, but I think it had to do w/dispersion...hopefully others can chime in. As far as "why" Emotiva has not, only they can answer - call and ask them. And, they just might still have something in development. Mark
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Post by Porscheguy on Aug 1, 2016 15:52:57 GMT -5
Emotiva just released their first new speakers in a long time. Maybe that's down the road a bit. Not sure how many people want Atmos, it might go the way of 3D TV which is nowhere..
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Post by yeeeha17 on Aug 1, 2016 16:05:51 GMT -5
Emotiva does not have any Atmos receivers or processors as of now so maybe it's why we have not seen any Atmos speakers yet
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Post by LuisV on Aug 1, 2016 16:13:28 GMT -5
Emotiva does not have any Atmos receivers or processors as of now so maybe it's why we have not seen any Atmos speakers yet +1 as to why Emotiva doesn't have Atmos specific speakers, but as per Dolby you can use ceiling speakers for Atmos. Below is a link to their speaker setup guide. www.dolby.com/us/en/guide/dolby-atmos-speaker-setup/index.html
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Post by Loop 7 on Aug 1, 2016 16:16:54 GMT -5
I would like to believe the new immersive audio formats are here to stay but look at how 3D in the home utterly failed.
Do the reflective Atmos speakers perform anywhere near the quality of ceiling mounted?
I guess I'm one of the wait-and-see people for Atmos.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2016 18:17:15 GMT -5
I would like to believe the new immersive audio formats are here to stay but look at how 3D in the home utterly failed. Do the reflective Atmos speakers perform anywhere near the quality of ceiling mounted? I guess I'm one of the wait-and-see people for Atmos. Near the quality yes. As good. Easily no. And I don't see atmos going anywhere. It's backward compatible to regular 7.1 (all in the metadata) unlike 3D coding And you don't need to wear glasses for it to work
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Post by briguy on Aug 2, 2016 8:27:26 GMT -5
3D was a non-starter for me, image quality is reduced too low as well as overall brightness. I'm sure they have their reasons for no ceiling speakers (yet), however I have to say that I feel Atmos/DTS:X are here to stay, even if the integration into homes is a bit on the slow side. Thanks for the opinions everyone.
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Post by panchakshari on Aug 2, 2016 8:39:25 GMT -5
Hi all.. Do you have idea.. Which is the best company for Atmos/DtsX ceiling speakers.. minimum 150 to 200 watts at 8ohm... thanks..
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Post by pedrocols on Aug 2, 2016 8:43:38 GMT -5
Two Channel Rules!!!
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Post by vneal on Aug 2, 2016 9:18:10 GMT -5
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Post by copperpipe on Aug 2, 2016 11:36:42 GMT -5
Ever since watching that episode from Andrew Robinson where he describes his 2 channel "home theatre"... I've been looking at my own system the same way. Sometimes simple is best. If I have $4000 to $6000 to spend on a system, I'm going to put that all into the best 2 channel system I can, instead of building some mediocre home theatre setup with speakers that are all over the place, and improperly setup (due to walls or other physical constraints). That's not to say that at some point I won't spend money on a multichannel setup, if I can have both an excellent theatre and 2 channel system, but I'm so over that whizzy-bang gimicky stuff I used to want. Besides, if I need to have multichannel to properly enjoy a movie, then chances are the movie isn't worth watching in the first place
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Post by vcautokid on Aug 2, 2016 12:22:46 GMT -5
Sometimes is never always. Couldn't disagree more. Rare this, but you can have the best of both worlds. Gimmicks are optional. Purity can be had in a surround field when implemented well. Coming originally from a 2 channel world since very young.
I have enjoyed it no end. However, in a world where there is something for everyone. Why limit yourself? Is Atmos for you? Is 4K or 3D for you? Maybe, maybe not. One thing is for sure. A great 2.0 to many channels more can be had. It is only as good as you want it to be. You are in control. I am a fan of amazing surround like I see at iMax or a great simple 2 channel rig. Doing it only one way doesn't invalidate other ways to do it, as long as it is done well to your room, your content,your taste. So will Airmotiv will go Atmos? Maybe. Will it matter to all? Stay tuned and find out.
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Post by macromicroman on Aug 2, 2016 12:26:26 GMT -5
I want a holographic deck like they had on Star Trek. That will really allow you to be part of the movie. I think you can even write your own program and get movie stars that you like to be in the act with you.
Coming soon to a Home Theater near you. Maybe Emotiva is even working on one to come out in a few years. They have it hidden in a new secret warehouse in Franklin.
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Post by briguy on Aug 2, 2016 12:53:47 GMT -5
I agree, to each their own. I personally LOVE surround effects when well integrated and done with the purpose of enhancing the movie/experience. In fact, I'll admit to watching plenty of movies that looked only "ok" because I know they had awesome soundtracks. I do enjoy 2ch for music, but other than that I prefer multi-channel.
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Post by 405x5 on Aug 2, 2016 13:05:20 GMT -5
Long time lurker, first time poster and owner of a lovely UPA-200...I was wondering with the proliferation of Atmos and DTS:X, why Emotiva didn't launch a voice/timbre matched set of in-ceiling speakers for the use of overhead effects channels as part of the new Airmotiv.........
Some pretty serious volume demand will be necessary before that happens. Plenty of high quality speakers out there to fill the need for now.
Timbre matched for helicopters and spaceships?? Don't sweat it😜
Bill
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Post by yves on Aug 2, 2016 14:13:52 GMT -5
Sometimes is never always. Couldn't disagree more. Rare this, but you can have the best of both worlds. Gimmicks are optional. Purity can be had in a surround field when implemented well. Coming originally from a 2 channel world since very young. I have enjoyed it no end. However, in a world where there is something for everyone. Why limit yourself? Is Atmos for you? Is 4K or 3D for you? Maybe, maybe not. One thing is for sure. A great 2.0 to many channels more can be had. It is only as good as you want it to be. You are in control. I am a fan of amazing surround like I see at iMax or a great simple 2 channel rig. Doing it only one way doesn't invalidate other ways to do it, as long as it is done well to your room, your content,your taste. So will Airmotiv will go Atmos? Maybe. Will it matter to all? Stay tuned and find out. Here's some real interesting philosophical perspectives: twit.tv/shows/home-theater-geeks/episodes/14
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2016 6:29:01 GMT -5
Long time lurker, first time poster and owner of a lovely UPA-200...I was wondering with the proliferation of Atmos and DTS:X, why Emotiva didn't launch a voice/timbre matched set of in-ceiling speakers for the use of overhead effects channels as part of the new Airmotiv......... Some pretty serious volume demand will be necessary before that happens. Plenty of high quality speakers out there to fill the need for now. Timbre matched for helicopters and spaceships?? Don't sweat it😜 Bill You DO know atmos is so much more than just overhead pans right?
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Post by jlafrenz on Aug 4, 2016 7:34:11 GMT -5
Emotiva always has projects in the pipeline so who knows what may already be in the works or what we might see in the near future. As much as Emotiva has grown, they are still a small company so product development and getting products to market can take some time.
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Post by vneal on Aug 4, 2016 7:53:12 GMT -5
Name me one accepted high end manufacturer that makes both speakers and electronics. It is usually one or the other
Some might say McIntosh but it is their electronics not speakers that are really sota
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