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Post by geebo on Aug 23, 2016 7:12:44 GMT -5
I preordered a PT-100 preamp a couple of months ago and today I received the following email from Emotiva: 'Suzanne Hillwig' (suzanne@emotiva.com) Hello, We are happy to advise your PT-100 order will ship out on Friday. If you have paid with credit card, it will be processed late Thursday or early Friday morning. You will receive an email with tracking information once it has shipped. Thank you for choosing Emotiva. Regards, Suzanne Suzanne Hillwig Accounting Assistant Awesome! There are lots of people here that will love to here your impressions.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2016 2:50:10 GMT -5
Awesome! There are lots of people here that will love to here your impressions.
Plus One!
Notice as always Emotiva is a very classy company and doesn't charge your credit card until shipment!
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Post by crash6 on Aug 30, 2016 22:15:03 GMT -5
Received my PT-100 today. Hooked up and evaluating currently.
Looks great, sounds great but has a VERY poorly designed menu/user interface/remote. They really went for a minimalist and elegant approach, but sacrificed usability. I hope some of the basic issues will be addressed ASAP, but I'll elaborate later.
I'll have pics and a larger review up in a few days.
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Post by nussey on Aug 31, 2016 9:53:32 GMT -5
I am quite interested to hear your thoughts, I am seriously considering getting one myself, but I see what other people think first. It seems that a number of people here and other places online have received theirs, but I no one has posted a proper review yet. I eagerly await your thoughts!
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Post by brutiarti on Aug 31, 2016 11:34:56 GMT -5
When you don't hear people saying anything about an emotiva new product means that they are enjoying it too much that there is no time for typing.
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Post by kewlmunky on Sept 1, 2016 8:33:42 GMT -5
I'm curious how the PT-100 compares to the XDA-2. I have an XDA-2 in my living room, but really would like to have an analog input. I know the DC-1 would probably be a much more comparable (if not upgrade), but I wanted to keep things a bit cheaper.
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Post by jayhawk on Sept 14, 2016 16:44:22 GMT -5
I received my PT-100 (and accompanying A-300) earlier this week. The PT-100 seems to be a well made unit (like the A-300) and drives the A-300 without difficulty, as might be expected. The digital volume adjustment is in very small increments, for some reason, but using the remote can get the preamp up to a good volume pretty quickly. The only problem I have encountered with the preamp is the menu system for adjusting the equalization and configuring the tuner. It has been, for me, a rather steep learning curve. All adjustments are made using the "menu" and directional buttons on the remote, along with the knob on the unit itself. Remembering the correct sequence of buttons to push is a challenge. It might be helpful if Emotiva would develop a flow chart or tree to illustrate the steps necessary to accomplish a particular task, such as initiating autotune or setting an FM preset. I'm hopeful that, once the preamp is configured the way I like it, I will only have to change inputs and volume. It's too early to comment on the sound quality (of either unit) but initial impressions are positive. I'm currently using the preamp and amp with new Elac F-5 floorstanders and the Elacs need some breaking in, too.
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Post by Hair Nick on Sept 14, 2016 16:58:24 GMT -5
I received my PT-100 (and accompanying A-300) earlier this week. The PT-100 seems to be a well made unit (like the A-300) and drives the A-300 without difficulty, as might be expected. The digital volume adjustment is in very small increments, for some reason, but using the remote can get the preamp up to a good volume pretty quickly. The only problem I have encountered with the preamp is the menu system for adjusting the equalization and configuring the tuner. It has been, for me, a rather steep learning curve. All adjustments are made using the "menu" and directional buttons on the remote, along with the knob on the unit itself. Remembering the correct sequence of buttons to push is a challenge. It might be helpful if Emotiva would develop a flow chart or tree to illustrate the steps necessary to accomplish a particular task, such as initiating autotune or setting an FM preset. I'm hopeful that, once the preamp is configured the way I like it, I will only have to change inputs and volume. It's too early to comment on the sound quality (of either unit) but initial impressions are positive. I'm currently using the preamp and amp with new Elac F-5 floorstanders and the Elacs need some breaking in, too. jayhawkThe new menu structure was designed so that once the unit is set up then you never really need to jump back into the deeper menu. I like your idea of us publishing a menu tree design. I'll add that to my list!
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Post by geebo on Sept 14, 2016 17:09:35 GMT -5
I received my PT-100 (and accompanying A-300) earlier this week. The PT-100 seems to be a well made unit (like the A-300) and drives the A-300 without difficulty, as might be expected. The digital volume adjustment is in very small increments, for some reason, but using the remote can get the preamp up to a good volume pretty quickly. The only problem I have encountered with the preamp is the menu system for adjusting the equalization and configuring the tuner. It has been, for me, a rather steep learning curve. All adjustments are made using the "menu" and directional buttons on the remote, along with the knob on the unit itself. Remembering the correct sequence of buttons to push is a challenge. It might be helpful if Emotiva would develop a flow chart or tree to illustrate the steps necessary to accomplish a particular task, such as initiating autotune or setting an FM preset. I'm hopeful that, once the preamp is configured the way I like it, I will only have to change inputs and volume. It's too early to comment on the sound quality (of either unit) but initial impressions are positive. I'm currently using the preamp and amp with new Elac F-5 floorstanders and the Elacs need some breaking in, too. The menu definitely takes a little getting used to. But for normal volume and input changes it's pretty simple. Up Down for volume and Left Right for inputs.
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Post by novisnick on Sept 14, 2016 17:45:22 GMT -5
I received my PT-100 (and accompanying A-300) earlier this week. The PT-100 seems to be a well made unit (like the A-300) and drives the A-300 without difficulty, as might be expected. The digital volume adjustment is in very small increments, for some reason, but using the remote can get the preamp up to a good volume pretty quickly. The only problem I have encountered with the preamp is the menu system for adjusting the equalization and configuring the tuner. It has been, for me, a rather steep learning curve. All adjustments are made using the "menu" and directional buttons on the remote, along with the knob on the unit itself. Remembering the correct sequence of buttons to push is a challenge. It might be helpful if Emotiva would develop a flow chart or tree to illustrate the steps necessary to accomplish a particular task, such as initiating autotune or setting an FM preset. I'm hopeful that, once the preamp is configured the way I like it, I will only have to change inputs and volume. It's too early to comment on the sound quality (of either unit) but initial impressions are positive. I'm currently using the preamp and amp with new Elac F-5 floorstanders and the Elacs need some breaking in, too. jayhawk The new menu structure was designed so that once the unit is set up then you never really need to jump back into the deeper menu. I like your idea of us publishing a menu tree design. I'll add that to my list! Thank Nick! PDF would be great. EDIT: Actually, a pretty printable picture would be nice!
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Post by novisnick on Sept 25, 2016 11:16:27 GMT -5
The PT-100 ticks a bunch of boxes, Ive used every connection but external amps, it does everything admirably. It should/would be a keeper BUT,,,,,,,,,
This is my quote to a friend
"I've been highlighting the mid/low fi system of my misc. room. It has the PT-100 as the integrated amp, Im HATING the remote and lack of its logic SO much that Im thinking of returning it. I like what it does for what it is but the lack of logical controls has me 😡 pissed off!! So much so that that room may be without sound for some time."
Ive tried setting up a Harmony 350 and it / I couldnt get it right. Needs work guys!
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Post by Dan Laufman on Sept 25, 2016 13:18:35 GMT -5
Jayhawks does bring up a legitimate point...
The TA-100 remote logic does take a moment to understand, and I believe that Nick and Keith will knock out a simple menu tree ASAP.
Also, a very quick tutorial video would make it easy to understand, so I think I'll ask the boys to do this too.
The menu is based on the way Apple TV operates and there is no ENTER action. This took me a moment to adjust to, but once I used it a bit, it's actually very logical and very simple. It's just a little different.
Happy listening! Cheers, Big Dan
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Post by Axis on Sept 25, 2016 13:27:51 GMT -5
Jayhawks does bring up a legitimate point... The TA-100 remote logic does take a moment to understand, and I believe that Nick and Keith will knock out a simple menu tree ASAP. Also, a very quick tutorial video would make it easy to understand, so I think I'll ask the boys to do this too. The menu is based on the way Apple TV operates and there is no ENTER action. This took me a moment to adjust to, but once I used it a bit, it's actually very logical and very simple. It's just a little different. Happy listening! Cheers, Big Dan Thanks Dan.
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Post by novisnick on Sept 25, 2016 13:41:23 GMT -5
Jayhawks does bring up a legitimate point... The TA-100 remote logic does take a moment to understand, and I believe that Nick and Keith will knock out a simple menu tree ASAP. Also, a very quick tutorial video would make it easy to understand, so I think I'll ask the boys to do this too. The menu is based on the way Apple TV operates and there is no ENTER action. This took me a moment to adjust to, but once I used it a bit, it's actually very logical and very simple. It's just a little different. Happy listening! Cheers, Big Dan Thanks for chiming in Big Guy, like I said, the PT-100 is a really good piece of gear, but the logical remote? Lets say that I have a bunch of 👀 stuff and it still doesnt work for me. My 30 days is coming up really fast, 30th and ive tried to be happy with it but,,,,, if I can't get it to work easily for me its gone! And Id hate to see that happen. I DON'T need an anchor. ill see what this week brings.
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Post by aventinus on Sept 25, 2016 16:07:08 GMT -5
I have had my PT-100 and A-300 combo since Friday. As others have mentioned, the menu logic takes a lot of getting used to(I keep changing input when all I want to do his hit enter lol), so hopefully I don't have to use it often. Other than that I am more than happy. This is making a killer office system to finally put my ERM 6.2s to use that I have had sitting around since the closeout sell forever ago. All sounding pretty damn good, especially for the cost. Hearing how these sound I am pretty sure I am going to need to upgrade my amp for my main system. I have a feeling the 8.3s will come alive with the added power after hearing the ERM 6.2s with 300 watts per channel.
#bringbacktheERT8.3s #bringbacktheERM6.2s #bringbacktheERM6.3s #bringbacktheERD-1s #orbringbackandupgradedversion
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Post by geebo on Sept 25, 2016 18:27:21 GMT -5
The remote is a little confusing when trying to adjust bass, treble and balance or the panel brightness. But left/right to change input and up/down to adjust volume is pretty pretty straightforward. If you adjust tone and balance a lot I can see where it could be tedious but I rarely make those adjustments after initial setup and perhaps a bit of tweaking to get it dialed in. After that it's very intuitive.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2016 18:28:45 GMT -5
I have had my PT-100 and A-300 combo since Friday. As others have mentioned, the menu logic takes a lot of getting used to(I keep changing input when all I want to do his hit enter lol), so hopefully I don't have to use it often. Other than that I am more than happy. This is making a killer office system to finally put my ERM 6.2s to use that I have had sitting around since the closeout sell forever ago. All sounding pretty damn good, especially for the cost. Hearing how these sound I am pretty sure I am going to need to upgrade my amp for my main system. I have a feeling the 8.3s will come alive with the added power after hearing the ERM 6.2s with 300 watts per channel. #bringbacktheERT8.3s #bringbacktheERM6.2s #bringbacktheERM6.3s #bringbacktheERD-1s #orbringbackandupgradedversion It sounds like you plan to drive the ERT-8.3's with the A-300? I would be cautious driving the 8.3's to high dynamic levels in a decent sized room. The A-300 might work fine at lower/reasonable levels for 4 ohms, but just note that the 300 watts from the A-300 into 4 ohms is measured at 1.0% THD which is at clipping level and not the beefy power that the XPA-2 and UPA-200 produced. There is more to how powerful an amp is and not just the raw power in number of watts. How strong it is into real 4 ohms loads can be very important. Clipping level, 1.0% THD is used IMO to inflate the specified power output. The ERM-6.2 is 4 ohms also. I own the slightly smaller ERM-1's (LCR) plus ERD-(surrounds) and drive them with an XPA-5 with 300 watts plus all channels driven into 4 ohms at 0.1% THD (1/10th THD of clipping). This is in a fairly small condo room and the ERM-1's have very high power handling, like the 6.2 and 8.3 and they love the robust 4 ohm power. Audioholics said in their review of the XPA-200: Fortunately, Emotiva tests their amplifiers with an APX585 Audio Precision Analyzer (same model that Audioholics uses) and publishes the test results so one can see what their amplifiers are capable of before purchasing...........I would express some disappointment at Emotiva’s choice to rate output on the XPA-200 at <1% THD (clipping); the XPA-2 and UPA-200 rate output into 0.1% and 0.05% THD respectively.
I have asked several times here about the reason for using a clipping level of 1% THD into 4 ohms for the new BASX amps but have seen no response. Emo,
Could you or one of the staff, drag out the AP (Audio Precision) amp tester and post the results for both 8 and 4 ohms on the new BASX power amps (A-300, A-500, A-700) and the TA-100 in the resources sections. The official published spec's on the 8 ohm output look great but the spec's on the 4 ohm output are at clipping rather than a more reasonable THD distortion level (maybe 0.1-0.25%). I think some potential buyers would be feel more confident in driving their 4 ohm speakers. I know lower priced amps tend to be less beefy into 4 ohm loads but the 1.0% THD on the 4 ohm post is 20 times the 0.05% THD on the 8 ohm spec, although perhaps a 0.1% spec on the 8 ohm load would seem more common. To me anybody with a 4 ohm really nominal speaker impedance would like to know the tested output at a reasonable THD level rather than at clipping. I'm guessing the output at say 0.2% THD might be somewhere in the 65-75 watts range into 4 ohms? That would still be fine for my interests.
Thanks for any response on this. Chuckeinut
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Post by aventinus on Sept 25, 2016 23:02:14 GMT -5
Thanks for the detailed response Chuckie. When I mentioned more power for the 8.3s I meant more along the lines of picking up a XPA gen 3 or something along those lines. I was speaking to the fact that the 6.2s seemed to respond well to the A-300 and it's power, but then again this is in my home office so I am not exactly driving it hard.
I currently use a UPA-5 to power the 8.3s, 6.3 center, and ERDs. I have a feeling they could use more power even though it has served me well since purchase.
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Post by garbulky on Sept 26, 2016 0:55:10 GMT -5
Thanks for the detailed response Chuckie. When I mentioned more power for the 8.3s I meant more along the lines of picking up a XPA gen 3 or something along those lines. I was speaking to the fact that the 6.2s seemed to respond well to the A-300 and it's power, but then again this is in my home office so I am not exactly driving it hard. I currently use a UPA-5 to power the 8.3s, 6.3 center, and ERDs. I have a feeling they could use more power even though it has served me well since purchase. I haven't heard the gen 3 units. Just going off what I have experienced If you want a REAL upgrade look towards an XPA-1 gen 2. I have a UPA-2, experienced a UPA-1, XPA-5, XPA-2 (XPA-2 - pretty good actually) and an XPA-1 gen 2. You want it to feel like an upgrade...check out the XPA-1. It's $$ though. Worth every penny for me! Enjoying it right now and loving the music and soundstage these put out. I bought these to be my last amps and though I've heard some fantastic amps, I think these will be the ones that will last me till they give out. However you should also know I also have a bit of a crush on a 12 watt modded tube monoblock amps from the 60's. They were monoblocks because .... they were designed to play mono sound. So I may not be quite right in the head here.
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Post by aventinus on Sept 26, 2016 7:16:33 GMT -5
While I would love to do that at more than twice the cost(and space haha) I think either a 2 or 3 module gen 3 will work
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