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Post by Gary Cook on Apr 2, 2018 19:36:31 GMT -5
Thread resurrection, back in 2016 there was a good reason for this level of processor and now its even more so. To fill the huge gap between the MC-700 at $600 and the XMC-1 with its HDMI and Atmos/DTS price point that's going to be closer to $3,000. There simply has to be a way to come up with a product with the spec that justifies a price somewhere in that yawning chasm. It doesn't have to be exactly half way in between (ie; $1,800), it could be anywhere between $1,000 and $2,000. That's huge price range to arrive at a spec that justifies the price. Personally I'd want 4K HDR/DV pass through, Atmos/DTSX at 5.1.2 and DIRAC Live. Aimed at the mid processor, quality sound market where there simply isn't any real competition. The big name AVR manufacturers each have several models that sit in that price range, so it's not like it isn't there for the taking. Since most HT's aren't past 5.1 then 5.1.2 makes sense with the simple add on of an upwards firing 2. Of course it would also suite 7.2 non Atmos/DTSX as a step up in sound quality and with DIRAC that the MC-700 doesn't have. Come on Dan Laufman you know you should  Cheers Gary |
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Post by suffolk112000 on Apr 8, 2018 19:04:17 GMT -5
I WOULD buy one
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Post by cmelater on Apr 22, 2018 0:23:02 GMT -5
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Post by ottaone on Apr 22, 2018 1:49:56 GMT -5
^But it's not an Emotiva.:-)
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Post by cmelater on Apr 22, 2018 1:56:11 GMT -5
I own an XMC-1. I got a really great deal on this one, but am tempted to try the NAD and see how it compares. Since there is a 60 day return window seems like a good way to check out some options!
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Post by cmelater on Apr 22, 2018 2:01:39 GMT -5
And my XMC-1 will have 4+ years of warranty to pass on to the next owner if the NAD works better in my setup. I know "better" is relative, but having some onboard amplification is plus. I have several amps, but I'm always concerned that drawing too much power from my non-dedicated circuits might get taxed when using 4 stereo amps, 2 subwoofers, and everything else.
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Post by sveb on Apr 22, 2018 2:33:37 GMT -5
It has only 3 hdmi in, I need at least 5, but want 7 for all my devices. And there are a lot of people who has problems with it regarding the atmos(Avsforum-thread). I want an Emersa.  |
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Post by cmelater on Apr 24, 2018 1:45:38 GMT -5
True, that it is limited might be an issue for some, but not for others. It is a compromise that many can live with since the price is set very reasonably. There are issues, but reading through the thread on AVS does indicate that NAD support is very responsive to each individual complaint through it's dealer network and direct contact. They're not dodging, or minimizing, or excusing problematic functionality. Very unusual for any company in this business today, so props to them for taking responsibility. They are also coming through on many of the promised fixes via firmware. They likely have a larger support staff. The main thing about the NAD is that it is a reality and in the end user's hands, while many of the promised products/updates are still delayed indefinitely.
Quarter 1 has come and gone. While this has become rote, it's not the best way to do business. And there will be issues that have to be worked out on any new processor that Emotiva releases. Having a completely bug free product in today's market doesn't seem to exist. Don't get me wrong, I'd prefer sticking with the familiar. The XMC-1 sounds almost exactly the same as my Adcom GFP-750 (very slightly more bass from the Adcom), while having equalization and the added features that the XMC-1 provides is a plus. I have little interest in Atmos/DTS-X, but would be excited for those that have been waiting for the promised product to become tangible; and for Emotiva to deliver the product, because I'd like for them to continue being successful in providing value and quality. Each day that passes is a missed opportunity for Emotiva and the potential customer base of reaping the benefits of getting their product to market. While there are many aspects, or stages, to designing and manufacturing this technology, others have been doing for a while now (almost 4 years). While Dolby Atmos is slow in its roll-out and adoption by a lot of consumers, it is maturing and is a standard offering in even sub $500 AVRs now. What I'm saying is, it's not good for Emotiva, or the dedicated client base that is loyal to the brand, to have to wait much longer without a time-frame that will be kept. Plus the implementation of DIRAC in the XMC-1 has been benefited greatly from Socketman and Ansat, both early adopters who went above and beyond, to share their knowledge and giving us off-axis calibration files. I don't think these guys got anything beyond a "thank you" from a few lounge lizards. Ansat especially did a lot of work, otherwise many of us might be despising Dirac and the XMC-1, rather than singing it's praises. Dirac is being adopted by more mainstream companies because it's getting less expensive. I'd say this has been one of the biggest advantages for Emotiva's success with the XMC-1, but that advantage may be short-lived if we see Best Buy selling receivers with Dirac capabilities within the next year or so.
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Post by Gary Cook on Apr 24, 2018 3:04:36 GMT -5
I have little interest in Atmos/DTS-X I just have to ask, why? Personally I have heard noticeable benefits from Atmos in clarity and precision of placement of effects. That's without adding a single speaker to the lay out. DTSX has the additional and huge advantage of being able to adjust the dialogue volume, not in any way tied to the centre speaker volume. There are sound quality advantages in both DTSX and Atmos that are very worthwhile, yes even without ceiling/height speakers. So if the only reason you have "little interest" is due to not wanting to install celing/height speakers then I'd strongly suggest revisiting that. Cheers Gary |
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Post by Gary Cook on Apr 24, 2018 3:06:30 GMT -5
It has only 3 hdmi in, I need at least 5, but want 7 for all my devices. And there are a lot of people who has problems with it regarding the atmos(Avsforum-thread). I want an Emersa. If you want 7 x 4K HDR HDMI 2.0 inputs then Emersa is not for you, there simply isn't the real estate in that sized box, internal or mostly rear panel. Cheers Gary |
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Post by sveb on Apr 24, 2018 5:03:29 GMT -5
It has only 3 hdmi in, I need at least 5, but want 7 for all my devices. And there are a lot of people who has problems with it regarding the atmos(Avsforum-thread). I want an Emersa. If you want 7 x 4K HDR HDMI 2.0 inputs then Emersa is not for you, there simply isn't the real estate in that sized box, internal or mostly rear panel. Cheers Gary I can live with 5 but want 7. But now I wait for the Xmc-1 and will se when it will be available. Hopefully they have other news soon so I have not have to buy that. |
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