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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2016 2:39:03 GMT -5
Hi, I'm very pleased with my Stealth 8 monitors. I'm interested to know if anyone has experienced an audible improvement by using "audiophile" power cords with their Stealth 8's. NO. Plus one! However I must admit that we apparently have dirty power in this part of Worshington State. Consequently, I run my power cords thru a garden hose (turned on). The clean power makes a night and day dry and wet improvement in the sound from our electrical components and speakers. We do also tend to have some sewage leakage into our water supply and since I have added the hose we have experienced no brown outs. If you can't hear the difference either your ears are not sensitive enough or your components are not discerning enough. |
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Post by oneguy on Oct 4, 2016 5:09:58 GMT -5
I have used different cables on my pre-amp and been able to tell the difference so I suspect the same would be true of my Stealth 8's based solely off of that. I have been told by a person that has a business built around making audiophile power cords that he hasn't had a customer report any change in sound on powered monitors so my guess may be wrong.
I swapped my Emotiva X IEC for the Anticables Level 3 power cord due to the noticeable effects in my pre-amp. The Ice Age Audio cable that I also did the comparison with bested the Emotiva cable and would definitely win a price per performance competition between the three previously mentioned cables. I tried the Copper/Silver cable with anodized plugs and the construction of that cable is amazing was amazing.
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Post by bluemeanies on Oct 4, 2016 6:19:18 GMT -5
Nope
Experimented with a borrowed pair of audioquest power cords on all three amplifiers...I did however think that Emotiva's power cords were well made and worth the extra bucks so I made the investment.
Again no improvement.
Yes, you can say I threw money away...it was not the first time.
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Post by geebo on Oct 4, 2016 7:11:26 GMT -5
Power cords, same as all the other wiring, the only differences I have ever heard I could trace to either undersized wiring (for the power requirements) and/or damage, to the wiring itself or the connectors. If the wiring is of suitable size, terminated appropriately and in good physical condition then I've never heard any differences. Even in cables runs of 100 metres or more. Specifically Stealth 8's I have no experience with, but I have set up Airmotive 4's and 6's which come with US plugs that I have to change to Aussie spec plugs. I have swapped over 1 plug and then fired them up (via mono source) and compared the sound using the different cables (I have ac*bleep*ulated lots). I've not been able to pick any difference, between 10 gauge and 16 gauge, cheap and expensive. The Stealth 8's at maximum SPL will draw around 3.5 amps each (2 x 200 watt amplifiers) at 120 volts. Which 16 gauge wire handles easily, so check the size they come with. Cheers Gary Well, except you're figuring 100% efficiency. If you figure 70% then the draw is more like 5 amps. I was told by Emo that my Airmotiv 6's will draw 3 to 3.5 amps at max power and they only have 2 x 100 watt amps. I like a good 14 AWG power cord for the Airmotivs although 16 AWG would be adequate. I like the ones with right angle connectors. www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005E2XT66/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o07_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 |
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Post by wilburthegoose on Oct 4, 2016 7:17:56 GMT -5
Keep in mind that if you're in metro NY (for example), your power has a good chance of being generated at Niagara, which means it's already traveled over 300 miles till it gets to your house. I don't think the power grids use "audiophile" quality cabling!
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Post by vneal on Oct 4, 2016 7:41:25 GMT -5
The Martin Logan owner's handbook recommends upgraded power cords without specifying what features would specifically be helpful. Emotiva used to offer power cords, but I think they stopped. If you have equipment that has the potential to pull a lot of amperage (like a gazillion watt power amp), then thicker wires might actually be helpful. The "normal" IEC power cable has 16 ga. wires in it (if you're lucky). Some use 18. You can buy inexpensive power replacement cords that have 14 or 12 ga. wires. I say, for the small outlay, why not. Can I say that I've heard an audible difference? Nope, I can't. But it seems like such an inexpensive change from the give-away cables in the box to the "best" that I see no particular reason not to buy the better ones if you wish. I've used Emotivas, Pangeas, and a couple of froufrou brands that I scored cheaply on eBay. But I normally donate the thin cords to the thrift shop & keep the 14 to 12 ga. wires that I can get from the likes of Parts Express & Monoprice for peanuts. YMMV Beat answer. It can't hurt. But can I HEAR THE DIFFERENCE?? Short answer no |
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Post by pedrocols on Oct 4, 2016 8:38:43 GMT -5
I just got an email from a speaker manufacturer about their new reference speaker cables at the moderate price of $1,000 for a pair of 6 foot cables. They use a material and or process to develop these wires that I can't even spell....
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Post by 405x5 on Oct 4, 2016 9:27:50 GMT -5
Imagine for just a moment , that all your components were hard wired together and right to the wall and then, remember WHY we have wires in the first place.
Because of distances between components. That's the ONLY reason those things are back There.
And now those necessary lengths have been INFUSED with mysterious properties and sonic revelations are touted.
Bill
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Post by monkumonku on Oct 4, 2016 9:51:27 GMT -5
Imagine for just a moment , that all your components were hard wired together and right to the wall and then, remember WHY we have wires in the first place. Because of distances between components. That's the ONLY reason those things are back There. And now those necessary lengths have been INFUSED with mysterious properties and sonic revelations are touted. Bill I'm imagining it like you said, and it sounds incredible to me already! I'm hearing things I ain't never heard before - my eyes and ears are open, brother! |
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Post by pedrocols on Oct 4, 2016 10:01:24 GMT -5
Imagine for just a moment , that all your components were hard wired together and right to the wall and then, remember WHY we have wires in the first place. Because of distances between components. That's the ONLY reason those things are back There. And now those necessary lengths have been INFUSED with mysterious properties and sonic revelations are touted. Bill I'm imagining it like you said, and it sounds incredible to me already! I'm hearing things I ain't never heard before - my eyes and ears are open, brother! Your post is misleading as I didn't see a single power cord... |
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Post by monkumonku on Oct 4, 2016 10:07:50 GMT -5
I'm imagining it like you said, and it sounds incredible to me already! I'm hearing things I ain't never heard before - my eyes and ears are open, brother! Your post is misleading as I didn't see a single power cord... That's your opinion. I saw plenty of power cords and they sounded fantastic. Perhaps your imagination isn't as resolving as mine. No offense meant, though. |
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Post by 405x5 on Oct 4, 2016 10:40:12 GMT -5
Now comes my favorite part😆
Getting to see how far downhill ANOTHER power cord thread can go.....
Oops 🙊. I just answered my own question.....the bottom of the hill can't be seen as usual😜
Bill
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Post by craigl59 on Oct 5, 2016 18:57:53 GMT -5
So far as I can tell, only two "real differences" are available in power cords: 1. Wire thickness - thicker wire has less resistance per unit length, and is therefore "better." 2. Shielding - In environments "noisy" with EMF / RFI, a shield around the conductors prevents them from acting as antennae Emotiva's power cables offer both of the above advantages, and are therefore "as good as you can get." This sounds like the gospel to me; thanks for the clear thinking. Am facing, more and more, severe clutter from too many cables in both studio and home theatre setups. Have tried to find shorter power cables at the local home depot stores to no success. Am wondering if one potential benefit to custom cables would be to minimize the clutter and, along with better shielding, make sure that the clean power coming from your conditioner is not sabotaged by proximity to other cables or noisy sources. Has anyone had experience with de-cluttering power cords and noted any change in quality? BTW, use Stealth 8s every day in my studio and have never tried any power cables other than the original ones. Have noted a significant improvement from running balanced Belden 1800F XLR cables direct to the pre/converter (BlueJeans Cable). More detailed and transparent sound.
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Post by Boomzilla on Oct 6, 2016 5:49:05 GMT -5
I think BlueJeans are awesome. Welded connectors (not soldered), heavy gauge wire, available in any length you want, reasonable price.
I periodically "de-clutter" but have never heard any audible improvement. BUT - unplugging & replugging the connectors on some periodic basis helps prevent oxidation & galvanic corrosion.
One of my buds says his surround speakers kept getting lower & lower in volume. He finally looked behind the amp, planning on replacing it. He found the zinc-plated connection strip (old amp) had about a quarter's diameter ball of corrosion around each speaker wire. He cut back the wires, cleaned the terminals, and now has perfect function again. His wires had been in place for about a decade before the corrosion was noticed.
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Post by Soup on Oct 6, 2016 9:58:03 GMT -5
 Me too! Work great with my Zu Audio cables... LMAO  GODZILLA RULES!!!!! |
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Post by Loop 7 on Oct 6, 2016 11:10:32 GMT -5
I regret buying an upgraded power cable. The cable I purchased is a Pangea. It's incredibly well constructed and beautiful but I could not tell any difference whatsoever.
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Post by mv on Oct 6, 2016 11:19:03 GMT -5
You also have to remember that your expensive power cable is plugged into a surge protector, that is plugged into a $1.29 plastic outlet, that is wired with $.16/ft 12/2 romex. So why would you buy expensive power cables again?
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Post by monkumonku on Oct 6, 2016 11:25:51 GMT -5
You also have to remember that your expensive power cable is plugged into a surge protector, that is plugged into a $1.29 plastic outlet, that is wired with $.16/ft 12/2 romex. So why would you buy expensive power cables again? That is EXACTLY why you buy a $10,000 power cable. It takes that "cheap" power and does its rigamarole on it and turns it into expensive power. And if you don't believe me, wouldn't you say $10,000 is expensive? So if the electrons have been passed through that expensive cable, you can bet they're coming out feeling pretty good about themselves. |
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Post by 405x5 on Oct 6, 2016 11:33:57 GMT -5
I love it!! The downhill for this thread is going great!!
Sort of a tie-in as we are talking about power.....maybe someday we could use regenerative braking power from our automobiles to power the home system. Especially if you live on the west coast with all of those hills.
Just come home after a hard days work and run that power cord from your car and back feed the panel with the juice you picked up from stepping on those brakes all day. Free power for the music!
Bill
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Post by garbulky on Oct 6, 2016 12:02:39 GMT -5
You also have to remember that your expensive power cable is plugged into a surge protector, that is plugged into a $1.29 plastic outlet, that is wired with $.16/ft 12/2 romex. So why would you buy expensive power cables again? Well you could have one of these and hook it up to the power cable. www.psaudio.com/perfectwave-p5-power-plant/ |
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