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Post by bluemeanies on Mar 31, 2017 12:04:19 GMT -5
I take it that the overarching goal here is to eliminate vibrations being transmitted from the speaker to the surface upon which it sits, correct? Without commenting on the IsoAcoustics products or any other product designed to reduce vibrations, I just wanted to say that this is what I am currently using. I put them under my speakers, then under the speaker stand, and also under the sub, and have some under my other equipment. They seem to work fine and they only cost $21.60 for a box of 48. They don't look very attractive but for me it is function over form. www.supplyhouse.com/DiversiTech-MP-2E-EVA-Anti-Vibration-Pad-2-x-2-x-7-8Good choice monk...especially since I purchased a box of 48 and shared them with audiobill. I did not use them for my speakers but I did use them for my electronics. I have them in black and I intend to buy a can of black spray paint and use that on the cork. Again good choice and great mines think alike...except BOOM... there is always an exception for everything! 😂
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Post by Axis on Mar 31, 2017 12:23:04 GMT -5
OK - Not too much cost - easy to return if ineffective. I'll try them - but NOT immediately. I'm already in the process of adding an analog front end. Too many changes simultaneously make it difficult to identify what changed what. In a few months, I'll get back. Boom Get the Aluminum Aperta stands for your LS50's. They come in sliver or black. I ordered the GAIA lll pucks to try with my sony towers but I am waiting on the Airmotiv T2 for a two channel speaker replacement. The only other two channel speaker other than the T2 with it's ribbon tweeter would be the more costly Revel Performa3. jmilton just got some of the new Revel Concerta2 F36 Tower Speakers and like him I have always liked Revel speakers and all they put into them. I would have got the F12's years ago but my Sony's sound good and don't bother the neighbors with heavy bass. I am breaking that rule now and getting me some big T2's if they ever come out. Jim's Review. hometheaterhifi.com/reviews/speaker/floor-standing/revel-concerta2-f36-tower-speakers-review/
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Post by Axis on Mar 31, 2017 12:39:33 GMT -5
Speakers are where you get improvement in sound. Wires and electronics do little difference as long as they are quality components. Get your room right for the sound waves that your speakers are throwing all over the place and get good quality speakers.
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Post by bluemeanies on Mar 31, 2017 15:54:06 GMT -5
The speaker-floor interface depends on your FLOOR - not your speakers. And, curiously, it has little or nothing to do with either anchoring or isolating your speakers. After all, speakers large enough to power auditoriums & stadiums are often mounted on rollers. Why? Because it makes them easy to move AND because their mass is sufficiently high that the movements of the speaker cones are not able to move the speaker (even on the rollers). For heavily carpeted floors, I normally use spikes. Why? Because it makes the speaker less likely to tip over. For bare floors, I normally use either Teflon or rubber feet. Why? Because it makes the speaker easier to move without marking or damaging the floor. I've previously tried fancy spikes & cones, glides, and even hockey pucks (really). Audible difference = zero (to my ears - in my room). As to the tuned isolators under discussion - my guess would be that they won't do any harm - but they won't make any audible improvement either. Even if they change the sound very slightly, I'd suspect it's more of a case of "different" rather than "better." I'd also suspect that any "different" would be so small as to be inaudible in the mythical double-blind test. So that's my two cents - and as always, I could be wrong... Boomzilla FYI...Did you know that KEF now makes the LS50 wireless? Personally I'd rather hard wire but they are available. I do not know the price range. Thought you'd like to know.
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Post by Boomzilla on Mar 31, 2017 16:47:34 GMT -5
Hi bluemeanies - Yes - I noticed the wireless LS50s - I think they'd be sweeeeet for surround speakers.
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Post by sebastianr on Mar 31, 2017 17:56:20 GMT -5
These Iso-Acoustic Gaia footers seem like a steal when compared to Magico MPods. The MPods are $8400 for the set of 8 you'll need on a pair of speakers. link
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Post by pknaz on Mar 31, 2017 18:10:15 GMT -5
snake oil
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Post by Axis on Apr 1, 2017 19:59:26 GMT -5
snake oil Why do you say snake oil ? Are you saying that the stands do not work ? Have you used them ?
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Post by Axis on Apr 2, 2017 12:08:28 GMT -5
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Post by novisnick on Apr 2, 2017 12:23:32 GMT -5
Thats $119.98 for four. I'll be interested in a review of these, but it won't be my review. They come i sets of two, how do you use one set?
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Post by Axis on Apr 2, 2017 12:33:26 GMT -5
Thats $119.98 for four. I'll be interested in a review of these, but it won't be my review. They come i sets of two, how do you use one set? Don't worry Nick I will tell you about them.
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Post by pknaz on Apr 2, 2017 13:01:03 GMT -5
snake oil Why do you say snake oil ? Are you saying that the stands do not work ? Have you used them ? Have you watched that video I linked the other day, the one about psycho-acoustics and how we perceive sound?
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Post by Axis on Apr 2, 2017 13:04:37 GMT -5
Why do you say snake oil ? Are you saying that the stands do not work ? Have you used them ? Have you watched that video I linked the other day, the one about psycho-acoustics and how we perceive sound? No, I am not going too. Will you be ok ?
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Post by pknaz on Apr 2, 2017 16:47:11 GMT -5
Have you watched that video I linked the other day, the one about psycho-acoustics and how we perceive sound? No, I am not going too. Will you be ok ? Oh yeah, I'll be totally fine. I know my < $10 speaker feet do the exact same thing that many of the devices you've mentioned in this thread do, at a tiny fraction of the cost.
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Post by autiger on Apr 4, 2017 20:34:49 GMT -5
I put (weight appropriate) sorbothane domes (1/2 of a ball) under my sub woofer and it made a dramatic positive difference. I put sorbothane pads (cut myself) under my B1's but didn't try them w/o it. But sorbothane is cheap off ebay. Just do your research as to density and weight before ordering.
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Post by Boomzilla on Apr 9, 2017 16:03:45 GMT -5
I put golf balls under mine - the aerodynamic dimples made the air flow smoother and once the subs had balls, they spoke more authoritatively!
(sorry - I just couldn't help myself - He-He-He)
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Post by Cogito on Apr 9, 2017 18:27:40 GMT -5
Here is someone reputable that likes them. This is from IsoAcoustics site. Harry Weisfeld Founder, VPI Industries IsoAcoustics was pleased to be invited to one of VPI Industries’ listening rooms to demo the GAIA I’s under a pair of KEF Blades. Harry Weisfeld, founder of VPI Industries and Dipinjeet Sehdev of KEF America immediately heard tighter bass, more clarity and a wider soundstage. Harry Weisfeld later said: “Installing the GAIA isolators on my KEF Blades gave the biggest improvement in sound I have ever heard on the system. Better than changing cables or electronics, the noise floor was lower, the focus was better, and the bass went deeper. All around a total success.” How could I take these people seriously when they don't even use cable elevators???
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Post by Cogito on Apr 9, 2017 18:38:31 GMT -5
I use the SVS SoundPath Subwoofer Isolation Systems on my SVS sub. They didn't improve the sound as far as I could tell, but they made a significant reduction in rattles and vibrations from my pictures hanging on the wall.
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Post by foggy1956 on Apr 10, 2017 5:40:21 GMT -5
Axis, Have you run any before and after REW waterfalls with any of these pads? People like objective test results around here (sometimes)☺
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Post by frenchyfranky on Apr 12, 2017 8:42:54 GMT -5
I use the SVS SoundPath Subwoofer Isolation Systems on my SVS sub. They didn't improve the sound as far as I could tell, but they made a significant reduction in rattles and vibrations from my pictures hanging on the wall. I also use them and they make a huge difference and improvement in my case. The wooden floor in my room transmit so much sonic vibrations into my whole house, these SVS Soundpath nearly completely eliminate it. Plus the sorbothane surface is so sticky that my sub now has stopped traveling across the living room.
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