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Post by vcautokid on Sept 10, 2018 4:14:32 GMT -5
No 1/4” out... You want to get the companion HP-1 Class A balanced headphone amplifier! 4 watts per channel, discrete Class A design. +/- 27 VDC rails!!!! Talk about headroom. Great for both low and high impedance headphones. Selectable gain, etc. $399.00 Made in USA 🇺🇸 Wow!!! Exciting news!!!! Please tell us more! Outright power the BAS-X A100 is more. But I am excited about a dedicated Headphone amplifier with Class A and 4 watts. My Planars are ready. Are we shipping soon? |
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Post by DavidR on Sept 10, 2018 21:26:14 GMT -5
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Post by beercanchicken on Sept 17, 2018 11:46:39 GMT -5
Late March 2018. I must have missed it...
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Post by saturnx on Oct 11, 2018 17:59:52 GMT -5
I am in the market right now for a new DAC for my 2.1 channel rig. I'm in the $600 to $1000 dollar range. Moving my XDA-2 to my headphone rig leaves the door open for something new .. Any updates on the release of the DC-2? Any recommendations if the DC-2 isn't available before Christmas? WiFi streaming would be nice but not a deal breaker.
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Steve
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Post by thorcorps on Oct 12, 2018 11:52:20 GMT -5
If the DC-2 doesn't make it out in time for you, you could check out the Schiit Multi-bit dacs. But keep in mind, you'd also need a preamp for volume control, etc.
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Post by saturnx on Oct 12, 2018 16:39:58 GMT -5
If the DC-2 doesn't make it out in time for you, you could check out the Schiit Multi-bit dacs. But keep in mind, you'd also need a preamp for volume control, etc. Thanks for the heads up. Schiit has some very interesting products. Anybody have any experience with the Oppo Sonica DAC? |
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Post by Boomzilla on Oct 13, 2018 5:48:01 GMT -5
Stealth DC-2 - What do we know? We know it STILL isn't here yet. We know that the RMC-1 will almost certainly come out first. We know that the RMC-1 is STILL being twiddled with and may not be out before Christmas. So maybe the first or second quarter of '19 may see the DC-2 release (or not). Sigh...
The only bright spot on the horizon is that the DC-2 is supposed to have a switchable 80 Hz. high-pass filter built in for its main outputs with a full-range (but volume controlled) pair of outputs for a subwoofer feed. Please, PLEASE, Emotiva, keep this feature! If you wanted to make that full-range, volume-controlled output pair into a low-pass 80 Hz. one, it wouldn't offend me, either.
Other requests - PLEASE don't use a Sabre DAC. PLEASE keep the same form-factor as the DC-1 (and the PA-1 amps). PLEASE spend what it takes to maximize sound quality (we're willing to pay slightly more for the better parts). And PLEASE maintain the balanced circuitry as you did with the DC-1. Finally, PLEASE send me a pre-release unit for review!!! LOL
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Post by saturnx on Oct 13, 2018 8:41:14 GMT -5
Stealth DC-2 - What do we know? We know it STILL isn't here yet. We know that the RMC-1 will almost certainly come out first. We know that the RMC-1 is STILL being twiddled with and may not be out before Christmas. So maybe the first or second quarter of '19 may see the DC-2 release (or not). Sigh... The only bright spot on the horizon is that the DC-2 is supposed to have a switchable 80 Hz. high-pass filter built in for its main outputs with a full-range (but volume controlled) pair of outputs for a subwoofer feed. Please, PLEASE, Emotiva, keep this feature! If you wanted to make that full-range, volume-controlled output pair into a low-pass 80 Hz. one, it wouldn't offend me, either. Other requests - PLEASE don't use a Sabre DAC. PLEASE keep the same form-factor as the DC-1 (and the PA-1 amps). PLEASE spend what it takes to maximize sound quality (we're willing to pay slightly more for the better parts). And PLEASE maintain the balanced circuitry as you did with the DC-1. Finally, PLEASE send me a pre-release unit for review!!! LOL Boomzilla The Sabre DAC doesn't get much love. I don't know why, my portable Onkyo DP-X1A Sounds great with my HD-6xx's. What I love about it most is that it's not fatiguing at all and it has a very full sound. The DC-2 sounds interesting and has my attention for sure. I'm leaning towards a Schiit DAC for my head phone system now and ugrading the 2 channel rig later after the Holidays. |
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Post by Boomzilla on Oct 13, 2018 18:19:45 GMT -5
The Mytek Liberty that I reviewed had a Sabre, and for some reason, sounded GREAT. My Oppo UDP-205 with a Sabre, however...
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Post by klinemj on Oct 13, 2018 18:27:05 GMT -5
The Mytek Liberty that I reviewed had a Sabre, and for some reason, sounded GREAT. My Oppo UDP-205 with a Sabre, however... I doubt you will see a Sabre in the DC2 - not only based on what was shown at Emofest but based on the direction Emotiva is going with the XMC and RMC lines. I expect the same brand of chips and possibly the same types. Mark |
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Post by novisnick on Oct 13, 2018 21:01:58 GMT -5
The Mytek Liberty that I reviewed had a Sabre, and for some reason, sounded GREAT. My Oppo UDP-205 with a Sabre, however... Its all about implementation my friend, but you know that. |
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Post by mountain on Oct 13, 2018 21:47:36 GMT -5
Love my Oppo 105 with its Sabre DACs, fits my system well.
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Post by Boomzilla on Oct 14, 2018 2:35:03 GMT -5
Love my Oppo 105 with its Sabre DACs, fits my system well. I loved my Oppo 105 too - which is why it was such a letdown to get a 205 (expecting an audio improvement) and instead get an avalanche of Sabre glare. |
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Post by klinemj on Oct 14, 2018 7:00:37 GMT -5
Love my Oppo 105 with its Sabre DACs, fits my system well. I loved my Oppo 105 too - which is why it was such a letdown to get a 205 (expecting an audio improvement) and instead get an avalanche of Sabre glare. It's all about implementation my friend, but you knew that. (Why do I think I have heard that before...oh, LOVE my Geek!) Mark |
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Post by KeithL on Oct 15, 2018 9:46:18 GMT -5
The DC-2 will be using AKM DAC chips. The Mytek Liberty that I reviewed had a Sabre, and for some reason, sounded GREAT. My Oppo UDP-205 with a Sabre, however... I doubt you will see a Sabre in the DC2 - not only based on what was shown at Emofest but based on the direction Emotiva is going with the XMC and RMC lines. I expect the same brand of chips and possibly the same types. Mark |
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Post by KeithL on Oct 15, 2018 9:59:12 GMT -5
Depending on the exact implementation, and whether you use the built-in filters or external ones, DACs designed around the Sabre DAC chips have varying degrees of the "Sabre house sound".
DACs with a "strong Sabre flavor" sound as if the upper midrange and lower treble is somewhat boosted (frequency response measurements show that it actually is not). People who like that sound describe it as "a little bright" or "extremely detailed"; people who don't like it describe it as "grainy" or "etched". (In my mind it is the audible equivalent of what a TV picture looks like when you turn the "sharpness" control too high.)
I've heard units that use Sabre DAC chips that sound quite normal - and quite like any other good quality DAC. However, others sound quite different (I had a Wyred4Sound DAC2 and it sounded distinctly different).
Stealth DC-2 - What do we know? We know it STILL isn't here yet. We know that the RMC-1 will almost certainly come out first. We know that the RMC-1 is STILL being twiddled with and may not be out before Christmas. So maybe the first or second quarter of '19 may see the DC-2 release (or not). Sigh... The only bright spot on the horizon is that the DC-2 is supposed to have a switchable 80 Hz. high-pass filter built in for its main outputs with a full-range (but volume controlled) pair of outputs for a subwoofer feed. Please, PLEASE, Emotiva, keep this feature! If you wanted to make that full-range, volume-controlled output pair into a low-pass 80 Hz. one, it wouldn't offend me, either. Other requests - PLEASE don't use a Sabre DAC. PLEASE keep the same form-factor as the DC-1 (and the PA-1 amps). PLEASE spend what it takes to maximize sound quality (we're willing to pay slightly more for the better parts). And PLEASE maintain the balanced circuitry as you did with the DC-1. Finally, PLEASE send me a pre-release unit for review!!! LOL Boomzilla The Sabre DAC doesn't get much love. I don't know why, my portable Onkyo DP-X1A Sounds great with my HD-6xx's. What I love about it most is that it's not fatiguing at all and it has a very full sound. The DC-2 sounds interesting and has my attention for sure. I'm leaning towards a Schiit DAC for my head phone system now and ugrading the 2 channel rig later after the Holidays. |
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Post by teaman on Oct 15, 2018 11:15:06 GMT -5
Any chance a Cirrus Logic DAC chip could be implemented here? I absolutely love the tone of my Sherbourn PT-7020C4 and SR-120 receivers. In fact I have even bought the 7020C4 for my two channel set ups. I am selling my XDA-2's off since replacing them. There is just something about the sound those Sherbourn produce. I was looking at the Cirrus site yesterday and it sounds like they are still producing similar chips.
Tim
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Post by saturnx on Oct 15, 2018 20:11:05 GMT -5
The DC-2 will be using AKM DAC chips. I doubt you will see a Sabre in the DC2 - not only based on what was shown at Emofest but based on the direction Emotiva is going with the XMC and RMC lines. I expect the same brand of chips and possibly the same types. Mark When is the DC-2 going to hit the market? |
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Post by Casey Leedom on Oct 16, 2018 14:02:53 GMT -5
The DC-2 will be using AKM DAC chips. Ah, but which ones? The AK4490ENs that you're using in the RMC-1 have been superseded by the new AK4493EQ ( news release) ... Casey |
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Post by klinemj on Oct 16, 2018 21:11:59 GMT -5
The DC-2 will be using AKM DAC chips. Ah, but which ones? The AK4490ENs that you're using in the RMC-1 have been superseded by the new AK4493EQ ( news release) ... Casey I don't know which chips they will use, but Dan and Lonnie were confident at Emofest that the DC-2 would be a considerable step up from the DC-1. I told them it would take that to get me to move from my Geek DAC, and they said "maybe we should get you one to try". I'd be open to that! Would love to have an early version to try and give them a direct comparison. Mark |
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