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Post by drtrey3 on Sept 16, 2017 11:50:19 GMT -5
The DC-2 at Emofest sounded a lot like the DC-1 at Emofest. NTTIAWWT!
Trey
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Post by jtwrace on Oct 5, 2017 16:01:31 GMT -5
Anymore info on the release date?
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Post by klinemj on Oct 5, 2017 16:51:50 GMT -5
Anymore info on the release date? No. |
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Post by earthboy on Oct 7, 2017 1:39:59 GMT -5
Anymore info on the release date? According to the latest podcast it won't be out until "next year". |
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Post by jtwrace on Oct 14, 2017 7:48:33 GMT -5
Thanks.
No idea if Emotiva has thought about it or not but if they made the DC-2 Roon Ready they would destroy the market. There is currently no dac (that I know of) that's under $3k that's a dac, pre, remote volume control does DSD256 min, balanced output and Roon Ready. I really don't understand the lack of manufactures that haven't caught on. You can buy the Sotm sMS-200 (what I use), the microRendu or many other streamers but why not build it into the box!?!?! You eliminate another box and make the chain so much better. Ethernet in and done!
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Post by klinemj on Oct 14, 2017 8:49:25 GMT -5
Thanks. No idea if Emotiva has thought about it or not but if they made the DC-2 Roon Ready they would destroy the market. There is currently no dac (that I know of) that's under $3k that's a dac, pre, remote volume control does DSD256 min, balanced output and Roon Ready. I really don't understand the lack of manufactures that haven't caught on. You can buy the Sotm sMS-200 (what I use), the microRendu or many other streamers but why not build it into the box!?!?! You eliminate another box and make the chain so much better. Ethernet in and done! They said at Emofest that they are working on a thin client streamer approach that would allow people to send music to their units via wifi and the unit would receive and play it. They talked about this as an add-in board for the RMC-1 and DC-1, as well as possibly a stand-alone unit. So, if you could play Roon from another device and send audio wifi out, the DC-2 might be able to use the signal. Mark |
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Post by drtrey3 on Oct 14, 2017 9:08:47 GMT -5
Yeah, that idea rocks in terms of my music listening!
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Post by Cogito on Oct 14, 2017 9:31:48 GMT -5
DSD and DIRAC would make it worth upgrading from my XDA-2 G2. MQA does nothing for me. Please put it in a full width 1U chassis.
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Post by jtwrace on Oct 15, 2017 13:36:38 GMT -5
Thanks. No idea if Emotiva has thought about it or not but if they made the DC-2 Roon Ready they would destroy the market. There is currently no dac (that I know of) that's under $3k that's a dac, pre, remote volume control does DSD256 min, balanced output and Roon Ready. I really don't understand the lack of manufactures that haven't caught on. You can buy the Sotm sMS-200 (what I use), the microRendu or many other streamers but why not build it into the box!?!?! You eliminate another box and make the chain so much better. Ethernet in and done! They said at Emofest that they are working on a thin client streamer approach that would allow people to send music to their units via wifi and the unit would receive and play it. They talked about this as an add-in board for the RMC-1 and DC-1, as well as possibly a stand-alone unit. So, if you could play Roon from another device and send audio wifi out, the DC-2 might be able to use the signal.
MarkWhat do you mean by "play Roon from another device"? I have the Roon Core on one machine that does all the heavy processing from PCM to DSD and then Roon Server on my MacBook Air. If this thin client streamer is just a streamer that would be ideal. Then it would show up as my Sotm sMS-200 does within Roon.   |
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Post by klinemj on Oct 15, 2017 14:06:00 GMT -5
They said at Emofest that they are working on a thin client streamer approach that would allow people to send music to their units via wifi and the unit would receive and play it. They talked about this as an add-in board for the RMC-1 and DC-1, as well as possibly a stand-alone unit. So, if you could play Roon from another device and send audio wifi out, the DC-2 might be able to use the signal.
MarkWhat do you mean by "play Roon from another device"? I have the Roon Core on one machine that does all the heavy processing from PCM to DSD and then Roon Server on my MacBook Air. If this thin client streamer is just a streamer that would be ideal. Then it would show up as my Sotm sMS-200 does within Roon. View AttachmentView AttachmentWhat I took it to mean is that we'd be able to use the Emotiva device as an output device. Net, it should show up within Roon. which would be cool... Mark |
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Post by jtwrace on Oct 15, 2017 14:33:51 GMT -5
What I took it to mean is that we'd be able to use the Emotiva device as an output device. Net, it should show up within Roon. which would be cool... Mark OK, so they will offer an optional built in streamer. Very interesting. Sure would be nice for Emotiva to release some technical info on it. |
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Post by klinemj on Oct 15, 2017 14:48:30 GMT -5
What I took it to mean is that we'd be able to use the Emotiva device as an output device. Net, it should show up within Roon. which would be cool... Mark OK, so they will offer an optional built in streamer. Very interesting. Sure would be nice for Emotiva to release some technical info on it. I am sure they will as it gets closer. Mark |
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Post by jtwrace on Oct 15, 2017 14:52:41 GMT -5
OK, so they will offer an optional built in streamer. Very interesting. Sure would be nice for Emotiva to release some technical info on it. I am sure they will as it gets closer. Mark Be nice to know if "sometime next year" is January or is it realistically June or later. |
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Post by klinemj on Oct 15, 2017 15:52:04 GMT -5
I am sure they will as it gets closer. Mark Be nice to know if "sometime next year" is January or is it realistically June or later. Sure would be, but...you know the drill! Mark |
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Post by Gary Cook on Oct 15, 2017 16:58:18 GMT -5
why not build it into the box!?!?! Because many people (like me) don't use it, don't want it and aren't willing to pay for something that we don't need, want or use.  It's just another piece of superfluous digital junk that's fashionable today but may well not be tomorrow and is bound to go out of date technically the day after. Cheers Gary |
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Post by klinemj on Oct 16, 2017 5:36:18 GMT -5
why not build it into the box!?!?! Because many people (like me) don't use it, don't want it and aren't willing to pay for something that we don't need, want or use. It's just another piece of superfluous digital junk that's fashionable today but may well not be tomorrow and is bound to go out of date technically the day after. Cheers Gary The way it was talked at Emofest, the thin client streamer would be an option on the RMC-1 (goes into expansion slot) and possibly similar as option on DC-2. I like Emotiva's thinking on "optional features" these days. With modular designs, that's easy to do. Mark |
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Post by jtwrace on Oct 16, 2017 19:04:27 GMT -5
Because many people (like me) don't use it, don't want it and aren't willing to pay for something that we don't need, want or use. It's just another piece of superfluous digital junk that's fashionable today but may well not be tomorrow and is bound to go out of date technically the day after. Cheers Gary The way it was talked at Emofest, the thin client streamer would be an option on the RMC-1 (goes into expansion slot) and possibly similar as option on DC-2. I like Emotiva's thinking on "optional features" these days. With modular designs, that's easy to do. Mark Yes, modular is the way to go for sure!! I look forward to seeing what they come up with. |
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Post by Gary Cook on Oct 16, 2017 22:04:48 GMT -5
The way it was talked at Emofest, the thin client streamer would be an option on the RMC-1 (goes into expansion slot) and possibly similar as option on DC-2. I like Emotiva's thinking on "optional features" these days. With modular designs, that's easy to do. Mark Yes, modular is the way to go for sure!! I look forward to seeing what they come up with. I fail to understand the difference between "modular" and "separate", the box would be so small that we wouldn't even notice it. Like Ego size Much easier/simpler/cheaper to swap the little box / separate when it goes out of date than send the big box back to have the board swapped. Cheers Gary |
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Post by jtwrace on Oct 17, 2017 16:34:05 GMT -5
Yes, modular is the way to go for sure!! I look forward to seeing what they come up with. I fail to understand the difference between "modular" and "separate", the box would be so small that we wouldn't even notice it. Like Ego size Much easier/simpler/cheaper to swap the little box / separate when it goes out of date than send the big box back to have the board swapped. Cheers Gary I already use the Sotm sMS-200 which is a separate box. The ability to have it all in one is ideal. Think about a slot like you would have in a PC that you would just slide the board in and on the end it has an Ethernet port on it. As for going out of date, either Emotiva can make the chassis large enough so they can always be upgradeable as each version comes out or not. The reality to me is that it's a digital product so the lifespan is between what one wants to have and the technology of how things improve. |
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Post by Gary Cook on Oct 17, 2017 17:26:46 GMT -5
I fail to understand the difference between "modular" and "separate", the box would be so small that we wouldn't even notice it. Like Ego size Much easier/simpler/cheaper to swap the little box / separate when it goes out of date than send the big box back to have the board swapped. I already use the Sotm sMS-200 which is a separate box. The ability to have it all in one is ideal. Think about a slot like you would have in a PC that you would just slide the board in and on the end it has an Ethernet port on it. As for going out of date, either Emotiva can make the chassis large enough so they can always be upgradeable as each version comes out or not. The reality to me is that it's a digital product so the lifespan is between what one wants to have and the technology of how things improve. What the XMC-1 upgrade process has show us is that it's not as simple as sticking a card in slot. Emotiva want XMC-1's back in their hands to perform the update/upgrade, they don't trust us to DIY. I see no reason why a DC-2 upgrade/update would be any different to a HDMI board in an XMC-1. Plus there is the time lag, not picking on Emotiva but other manufacturers have complete AVR's and processors out with updated/upgraded HDMI features and Atmos/DTSX compatibility, months ago. For sure Emotiva has limited resources and other priorities have to be considered, for example the XMC-1 updates/upgrades fall into line behind the RMC-1. How low on the priorities would a DC-2 be at ~1/5th of the price of an XMC-1, considering the updates/upgrades cost more than a DC-2 would? Adding it up, the cost of freight, time spent without the DC-2 while it was updated, as well as the even longer delay in engineering and supplying the update/upgrade. Compared to buying an inexpensive additional box that's next to invisible, seems like a no brainer to me. Cheers Gary |
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