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Post by krobar on Apr 5, 2021 4:30:49 GMT -5
Why do people think the dual Analog DSPs are capable of much more than 16 channels? More subwoofers is probably possible but I highly doubt any more decoded channels is possible to implement, DTS:X is still limited to 12 channels surely that should be remedied first.
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Post by cwt on Apr 5, 2021 21:40:45 GMT -5
Why do people think the dual Analog DSPs are capable of much more than 16 channels? More subwoofers is probably possible but I highly doubt any more decoded channels is possible to implement, DTS:X is still limited to 12 channels surely that should be remedied first. The theory is that the add on channel expansion modules will contain extra dsp socs to give more channels over the present limiting dual core analogue device chipsets currently as you say Its similar to what acurus has already done with the ACT4 -adding more dsp to it so it can now handle 20 channels Its just one reason apart from the possibility of bricking a unit and having to send it back from Australia Ive gone with an acurus muse - its hardware has already been revised from 12 channels to 16 with its trinnov like db9 port . And dts-x pro is a lock very shortly - no waiting forever ..
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Post by novisnick on Apr 5, 2021 23:53:20 GMT -5
Who bought a magic bean? I have one!
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Post by markc on Apr 6, 2021 3:21:49 GMT -5
My joke in another thread if all RMC-1 buyers will simply get a $1000 refund and a "L" sticker to add to their processors was not 100% a joke. That would not be at all fair to current RMC-1L owners! The legit RMC-1L owners would be missing out on the high volume of accousti-resonant air that is contained in the new RMC-1 to RMC-1L conversions - right where the expansion bays could have gone. Shouldn't RMC-1L owners get a free upgrade to a new case containing the necessary room air? That might save more face for the company.
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Post by novisnick on Apr 6, 2021 9:04:20 GMT -5
My joke in another thread if all RMC-1 buyers will simply get a $1000 refund and a "L" sticker to add to their processors was not 100% a joke. That would not be at all fair to current RMC-1L owners! The legit RMC-1L owners would be missing out on the high volume of accousti-resonant air that is contained in the new RMC-1 to RMC-1L conversions - right where the expansion bays could have gone. Shouldn't RMC-1L owners get a free upgrade to a new case containing the necessary room air? That might save more face for the company. That space is where I keep magic beans!
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Post by davidl81 on Apr 6, 2021 9:48:08 GMT -5
I think at some point we will get expansion modules just so they can fulfill the promise. I do not think we will ever (or at least in the next two years) see true channel expansion modules. We will see analog inputs as that is simple. I can see a built in streamer as that can basically be an independent unit that just uses the RMC for power. I just have a hard time seeing a true channel expansion at this point. It just seems like it is going to be a lot of development and honestly I am not sure how many more sales they would get from it. I hope I am wrong though.
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Post by ekpen on Apr 16, 2021 12:23:36 GMT -5
I think at some point we will get expansion modules just so they can fulfill the promise. I do not think we will ever (or at least in the next two years) see true channel expansion modules. We will see analog inputs as that is simple. I can see a built in streamer as that can basically be an independent unit that just uses the RMC for power. I just have a hard time seeing a true channel expansion at this point. It just seems like it is going to be a lot of development and honestly I am not sure how many more sales they would get from it. I hope I am wrong though. Hello: still on the issue of these cards. Why Lonnie did not opt to use DB9 or DB25 Rs232, similar to acurus act 4 20 channel SSP. Going this route, seems cheaper, and maybe less complication. Maybe an RMC -1 pro is in the works. George.
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Post by bblv on Apr 29, 2021 9:28:47 GMT -5
I check in here every month or so at this point just expecting to be disappointed. I'm FAR from disappointed in my RMC-1, but extremely disappointed in Emotiva's failure to deliver anything to fill the extra expansion bays in it.
So nothing new AT ALL? Lol
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Post by ekpen on Apr 29, 2021 17:39:56 GMT -5
Hello: Anthem avm 90 , when out will give RMC-1 a competition. In the avsforum - anthem 90 area, a few reference to RMC -1, a type of mockery of Emotiva. Hopefully the next May podcast by Lonnie or Dan may bring us news about either the optional cards or a PRO version of RMC. As I said before, Emotiva should take a clue from Acurus 4 20 channels using db 9 ordb 25 to add additional speakers. I am also running out of patience, now looking at the avm 90. Another product that needs updating is the 11 channels amp - . Too much power for the front channels,then only 65 watts for other channels. Monolith 11 channels could be used as example, or a yamaha x5200 amp Thanks. George.
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Post by adaboy on Apr 29, 2021 17:49:50 GMT -5
Hello: Anthem avm 90 , when out will give RMC-1 a competition. In the avsforum - anthem 90 area, a few reference to RMC -1, a type of mockery of Emotiva. Hopefully the next May podcast by Lonnie or Dan may bring us news about either the optional cards or a PRO version of RMC. As I said before, Emotiva should take a clue from Acurus 4 20 channels using db 9 ordb 25 to add additional speakers. I am also running out of patience, now looking at the avm 90. Another product that needs updating is the 11 channels amp - . Too much power for the front channels,then only 65 watts for other channels. Monolith 11 channels could be used as example, or a yamaha x5200 amp Thanks. George. Question: Since the module's are vaporware would one be able to get a full refund or would they be able to get a discounted price equal to the RMC-1L.
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Post by novisnick on Apr 29, 2021 19:11:16 GMT -5
Hello: Anthem avm 90 , when out will give RMC-1 a competition. In the avsforum - anthem 90 area, a few reference to RMC -1, a type of mockery of Emotiva. Hopefully the next May podcast by Lonnie or Dan may bring us news about either the optional cards or a PRO version of RMC. As I said before, Emotiva should take a clue from Acurus 4 20 channels using db 9 ordb 25 to add additional speakers. I am also running out of patience, now looking at the avm 90. Another product that needs updating is the 11 channels amp - . Too much power for the front channels,then only 65 watts for other channels. Monolith 11 channels could be used as example, or a yamaha x5200 amp Thanks. George. Question: Since the module's are vaporware would one be able to get a full refund or would they be able to get a discounted price equal to the RMC-1L. It is about time to talk compensation! And I’m talking about real money! Not a discount on even more gear one may or may not need/want!
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Post by ekpen on Apr 29, 2021 19:17:34 GMT -5
maybe the next podcast will bring something exciting I still will buy RMC -1, if the cards show up in real life. George.
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Post by Lsc on Apr 29, 2021 22:09:52 GMT -5
Maybe the RMC2?
Sorry I couldn’t help myself 😬.
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Post by ekpen on Apr 29, 2021 22:13:49 GMT -5
RMC -2 will be excellent. take care. George.
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Post by adaboy on Apr 30, 2021 18:35:20 GMT -5
Hello: Anthem avm 90 , when out will give RMC-1 a competition. In the avsforum - anthem 90 area, a few reference to RMC -1, a type of mockery of Emotiva. Hopefully the next May podcast by Lonnie or Dan may bring us news about either the optional cards or a PRO version of RMC. As I said before, Emotiva should take a clue from Acurus 4 20 channels using db 9 ordb 25 to add additional speakers. I am also running out of patience, now looking at the avm 90. Another product that needs updating is the 11 channels amp - . Too much power for the front channels,then only 65 watts for other channels. Monolith 11 channels could be used as example, or a yamaha x5200 amp Thanks. George. Question: Since the module's are vaporware would one be able to get a full refund or would they be able to get a discounted price equal to the RMC-1L. No thoughts or opinions?
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Post by cwt on Apr 30, 2021 23:46:54 GMT -5
Question: Since the module's are vaporware would one be able to get a full refund or would they be able to get a discounted price equal to the RMC-1L. No thoughts or opinions? If I had a RMC1 it would generate a lot of goodwill to see a firm rollout schedule as a 1st step - and not hints - but Ime not so I wont
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Post by markc on May 1, 2021 2:38:37 GMT -5
Question: Since the module's are vaporware would one be able to get a full refund or would they be able to get a discounted price equal to the RMC-1L. It is all a bit disgraceful and shameful that there is still the RMC-1 being offered for sale for a premium of $1000 over the RMC-1L based on the premise of upgrade modules which simply don't exist in any form despite more than adequate time for the company to come up with something. Anything! We can also all be pretty confident in supposing that when any modules do arise, they are not going to offer anything radical or worthy of 2021/2/3. As there is an established inability or drive or both to release even a new analogue input or digital input or turntable input phono module, then I have no hope for additional outputs for either extra satellite channels or subwoofers. If extra channel outputs were to be released, how confident are we that any Dolby or DTS upmixing or even Dirac will work as it should across both the current channels and any expansion channels? The answer has to be "Not very" from all of us. They didn't even release a version of the EDNIB network connection box for Dirac, specific to the RMC-1 that would fit into one of the three module slots to make it feel a bit less of an afterthought. As for the previously mentioned built in streamer (AKA raspberry Pi hard wired in), this is cheaper, easier and more reliable to do with an external Pi and a cable or two for less than $50 (Even less if you swap out the EDNIB SDcard and repurpose that after you've run Dirac) We all have to deal with the parts of these three processors that need a nudge and a few frustrating hours to try to get to work, but I especially pity you RMC-1 owners who completely and utterly wasted an extra $1000. How long are you all going to keep the faith?
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Post by junchoon on May 1, 2021 4:10:08 GMT -5
To many people, me included, it is a 2000 premium Question: Since the module's are vaporware would one be able to get a full refund or would they be able to get a discounted price equal to the RMC-1L. It is all a bit disgraceful and shameful that there is still the RMC-1 being offered for sale for a premium of $1000 over the RMC-1L based on the premise of upgrade modules which simply don't exist in any form despite more than adequate time for the company to come up with something. Anything! We can also all be pretty confident in supposing that when any modules do arise, they are not going to offer anything radical or worthy of 2021/2/3. As there is an established inability or drive or both to release even a new analogue input or digital input or turntable input phono module, then I have no hope for additional outputs for either extra satellite channels or subwoofers. If extra channel outputs were to be released, how confident are we that any Dolby or DTS upmixing or even Dirac will work as it should across both the current channels and any expansion channels? The answer has to be "Not very" from all of us. They didn't even release a version of the EDNIB network connection box for Dirac, specific to the RMC-1 that would fit into one of the three module slots to make it feel a bit less of an afterthought. As for the previously mentioned built in streamer (AKA raspberry Pi hard wired in), this is cheaper, easier and more reliable to do with an external Pi and a cable or two for less than $50 (Even less if you swap out the EDNIB SDcard and repurpose that after you've run Dirac) We all have to deal with the parts of these three processors that need a nudge and a few frustrating hours to try to get to work, but I especially pity you RMC-1 owners who completely and utterly wasted an extra $1000. How long are you all going to keep the faith?
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Post by Lsc on May 1, 2021 21:00:29 GMT -5
Question: Since the module's are vaporware would one be able to get a full refund or would they be able to get a discounted price equal to the RMC-1L. It is all a bit disgraceful and shameful that there is still the RMC-1 being offered for sale for a premium of $1000 over the RMC-1L based on the premise of upgrade modules which simply don't exist in any form despite more than adequate time for the company to come up with something. Anything! We can also all be pretty confident in supposing that when any modules do arise, they are not going to offer anything radical or worthy of 2021/2/3. As there is an established inability or drive or both to release even a new analogue input or digital input or turntable input phono module, then I have no hope for additional outputs for either extra satellite channels or subwoofers. If extra channel outputs were to be released, how confident are we that any Dolby or DTS upmixing or even Dirac will work as it should across both the current channels and any expansion channels? The answer has to be "Not very" from all of us. They didn't even release a version of the EDNIB network connection box for Dirac, specific to the RMC-1 that would fit into one of the three module slots to make it feel a bit less of an afterthought. As for the previously mentioned built in streamer (AKA raspberry Pi hard wired in), this is cheaper, easier and more reliable to do with an external Pi and a cable or two for less than $50 (Even less if you swap out the EDNIB SDcard and repurpose that after you've run Dirac) We all have to deal with the parts of these three processors that need a nudge and a few frustrating hours to try to get to work, but I especially pity you RMC-1 owners who completely and utterly wasted an extra $1000. How long are you all going to keep the faith? Yes they never should have had both the RMC1 and the RMC1L. I do think they felt compelled to have that $5k price tag because of the 40% off card. It kind of bit Emotiva on the back side for a long time. I guess what they can do now is give an expansion module with the purchase of the RMC1. The 1 sub channel could be limiting to the RMC1 owners so having a 9.5.6 processor sounds more enticing. Or 11.1.8, 11.3.6 etc. Just speculating- I have no skin in the game since I have the XMC2. Giving unsolicited advice is not my thing usually but I feel like Emotiva is so lost with these processors, I’m just throwing my 2 cents in.
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Post by AudioHTIT on May 1, 2021 23:23:57 GMT -5
I own an RMC-1 and I’m not interested in any of the modules that have been discussed, I bought it without need of modules to complete my purchase. This is not intended to excuse the lack of expansion boards, but in regards to the price, it’s my recollection that when the RMC-1 was announced it was going to be $5000 and have the features and expected build quality of the RMC-1L.
Possibly at that time we were also expecting to be able to upgrade our XMC-1’s to 4K and 7.2.4 Atmos (we got the 4K). The XMC-2 was then announced as an alternative to the XMC-1 upgrade, the original $5000 RMC-1 got expansion slots, and the RMC-1L (with the original specs) was announced at a $1000 lower price point.
Granted, there was a lot of hoopla about the wonderful expansion boards that would give the RMC-1 more channels than Baskin Robbins has flavors (almost), and many people were likely swayed by said hoopla, but there is a perspective that they did deliver on the original ’vision’ and price, even if they’ve still not fulfilled the expanded vision.
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