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Post by novisnick on Mar 9, 2018 12:43:46 GMT -5
So ...As per the podcast we won’t see the Xmc 4K board till the Rmc is released. The chips won’t be in till April,if all goes well, then assembly and testing. Not complaining just depressed to a longer wait. Please tell me I misunderstood. 😢 You misunderstood! The chips won’t be manufactured untill April and then made available to Emotiva sometime afterwards, most likely not April. At that time they will be installed into the Emotiva products and then made available for sale. So I would assume May at the earliest. |
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Post by andyman on Mar 9, 2018 12:48:31 GMT -5
So ...As per the podcast we won’t see the Xmc 4K board till the Rmc is released. The chips won’t be in till April,if all goes well, then assembly and testing. Not complaining just depressed to a longer wait. Please tell me I misunderstood. 😢 You misunderstood! The chips won’t be manufactured untill April and then made available to Emotiva sometime afterwards, most likely not April. At that time they will be installed into the Emotiva products and then made available for sale. So I would assume May at the earliest. Well that’s kinda the way I saw it so I don’t think I misunderstood. That sucks. |
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Post by novisnick on Mar 9, 2018 12:51:20 GMT -5
You misunderstood! The chips won’t be manufactured untill April and then made available to Emotiva sometime afterwards, most likely not April. At that time they will be installed into the Emotiva products and then made available for sale. So I would assume May at the earliest. Well that’s kinda the way I saw it so I don’t think I misunderstood. That sucks. Yes it does but its honest open and up front! Now, hopefully they will continue Weekly podcasts till release. |
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Post by wilburthegoose on Mar 9, 2018 12:52:51 GMT -5
That can't be correct....
In post #1, Dan L. states:
"I know that many of your are anxiously waiting for the new V3 HDMI board to become available. Well, the good news is is that it is now complete and approved for release.
We plan on releasing a beta units in a couple of weeks and then we'll roll out the boards in earnest in March. "
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Post by cwt on Mar 9, 2018 12:53:59 GMT -5
and where is the atmos conversion that should be with this so we can get extra channels out the spare outputs? RMC1 is the priority and its board shares some commonality with the XMC1'S so its slated soon afterwards ..Chip production on production chipsets was mentioned to start April ;they are vetting code on the pre production chips atm .. The Panasonic chips on the hdmi board are causing some status reporting glitches from beta testing so consequently are being hammered out according to the latest podcast.. They did mention more forthright commentary on progress to come  |
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Post by novisnick on Mar 9, 2018 12:57:02 GMT -5
That can't be correct.... In post #1, Dan L. states: "I know that many of your are anxiously waiting for the new V3 HDMI board to become available. Well, the good news is is that it is now complete and approved for release. We plan on releasing a beta units in a couple of weeks and then we'll roll out the boards in earnest in March. " Big Dan can be overly optimistic at times, I believe he may have misspoke. 🤐 |
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Post by wilburthegoose on Mar 9, 2018 12:57:07 GMT -5
and where is the atmos conversion that should be with this so we can get extra channels out the spare outputs? RMC1 is the priority and its board shares some commonality with the XMC1'S so its slated soon afterwards ..Chip production on production chipsets was mentioned to start April ;they are vetting code on the pre production chips atm .. The Panasonic chips on the hdmi board are causing some status reporting glitches from beta testing so consequently are being hammered out according to the latest podcast.. They did mention more forthright commentary on progress to come That doesn't make sense. In Post #1, Dan said that "the (board) is approved for release". |
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Post by Bonzo on Mar 9, 2018 12:59:12 GMT -5
Now placing bets for how long it takes for this thread to get locked.......  |
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Post by enricoclaudio on Mar 9, 2018 13:18:15 GMT -5
It's totally clear to me that the chips that are delayed are those for the RMC-1 main board (ATMOS/DTS-X), not the V3 HDMI video board chips.
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Post by Bonzo on Mar 9, 2018 13:28:10 GMT -5
It's totally clear to me that the chips that are delayed are those for the RMC-1 main board (ATMOS/DTS-X), not the V3 HDMI video board chips. Not trying add fuel, but what % of people do you think are going to do only the V3 board, vs only the Atmos board, vs both? My guess is at least 50% plan to do both at the same time. Of course I could be way off, either way, but there are still people who are now going to be waiting even longer for Atmos. Good news is the V3 board will be user uninstallable, so people can do one before the other if they so choose. |
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Post by Gary Cook on Mar 9, 2018 14:28:46 GMT -5
The obvious question, since other manufacturers have had 4K boarrds n their AVR's and processors for over 2 years and many have had Atmos/DTSX processing for 18 months or so why is Emotiva waiting for brand new, untested (in the field) chips? Surely there are other solutions available? Right now (or more correctly over a year ago) there must be plenty of choices that don't involve Emotiva "reinventing the wheel". Who, after all, are a small player in the market and can't possibly get anywhere near the volume and therefore support of the "majors". Logically, piggy backing onto the mainstream, volume, debugged, with thousands of units tested in the real world, makes more sense than going it alone.
So unless there is some technical break through that results in better audio and/or video I don't understand why anyone would choose that route. Or, that particular chip is the only one that works with the rest of the XMC-1 for some reason and therefore no other choices are possible. Surely has to be some compelling technical reason to go down the rabbit hole, not just "we want to be different".
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Post by andyman on Mar 9, 2018 14:36:17 GMT -5
It's totally clear to me that the chips that are delayed are those for the RMC-1 main board (ATMOS/DTS-X), not the V3 HDMI video board chips. Not trying add fuel, but what % of people do you think are going to do only the V3 board, vs only the Atmos board, vs both? My guess is at least 50% plan to do both at the same time. Of course I could be way off, either way, but there are still people who are now going to be waiting even longer for Atmos. Good news is the V3 board will be user uninstallable, so people can do one before the other if they so choose. I’m only looking for the V3 board. No interest in Atmos at this time . I think I have 8 HDMI cables routed all over. Even I get confused what input to use. I can only imagine my family trying to select the proper video and audio inputs . |
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Post by socketman on Mar 9, 2018 14:39:07 GMT -5
The obvious question, since other manufacturers have had 4K boarrds n their AVR's and processors for over 2 years and many have had Atmos/DTSX processing for 18 months or so why is Emotiva waiting for brand new, untested (in the field) chips? Surely there are other solutions available? Right now (or more correctly over a year ago) there must be plenty of choices that don't involve Emotiva "reinventing the wheel". Who, after all, are a small player in the market and can't possibly get anywhere near the volume and therefore support of the "majors". Logically, piggy backing onto the mainstream, volume, debugged, with thousands of units tested in the real world, makes more sense than going it alone. So unless there is some technical break through that results in better audio and/or video I don't understand why anyone would choose that route. Or, that particular chip is the only one that works with the rest of the XMC-1 for some reason and therefore no other choices are possible. Surely has to be some compelling technical reason to go down the rabbit hole, not just "we want to be different". Cheers Gary I dont know about you but i would rather have the most up to date tech than yesterdays tech. They tried that already with their first hdmi board. I know it changes faster than they can keep up with but i think this board will hold me until death comes for me now. |
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Post by ttocs on Mar 9, 2018 14:41:24 GMT -5
I personally don't mind waiting. Getting it done right is paramount. I think they got it right with the XMC-1 so I was happy with the outcome.
That being said, it would be cool if little pieces of candy could be handed out on a periodic basis to keep us kids from crying. Every time the Big Fellers give us some insights on the development, it's like taking a little more of the gift wrapping off of the mystery box.
edit: oops. it took me so long between starting this post to posting (gotta work ya know) that I just saw novisnick's weekly podcast post.
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Post by LCSeminole on Mar 9, 2018 14:45:08 GMT -5
I’m only looking for the V3 board. No interest in Atmos at this time . I think I have 8 HDMI cables routed all over. Even I get confused what input to use. I can only imagine my family trying to select the proper video and audio inputs . Same here on the ATMOS/DTS:X audio board, I don't have need for it for the foreseeable future but I will get the upgrade once the rush for it is over. I too have several HDMI cables running every which way, but luckily I've had my Harmony set up for activities so I don't have to remember what video & audio inputs are what!  |
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Post by richb on Mar 9, 2018 14:49:18 GMT -5
^ My take-away was the HDMI v3 boards are coming first. The RMC is waiting for production chips, so if all goes well your looking at May/June.
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Post by Bonzo on Mar 9, 2018 14:51:11 GMT -5
Big Dan can be overly optimistic at times, +1. Even at the end of today's pod cast he wanted to let some other cat out of the bag but was constrained. I honestly think this is a big part of people's issue. He makes big promises, but then for what ever the reason, changes those promises as time goes by. I've said it before and I'll say it again, I think he needs to put someone in real charge of public relations and just stay out of it himself. |
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Post by LCSeminole on Mar 9, 2018 14:55:36 GMT -5
^ My take-away was the HDMI v3 boards are coming first. The RMC is waiting for production chips, so if all goes well your looking at May/June. - Rich Mine as well. |
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Post by KeithL on Mar 9, 2018 15:09:19 GMT -5
Actually, you've got it sort of backwards. There are only one or two companies that make the required chips... and they keep them for themselves, or sell them to companies who order a million at a time, before they make them available to smaller companies (especially competitors). And THAT's what we've been waiting on. The obvious question, since other manufacturers have had 4K boarrds n their AVR's and processors for over 2 years and many have had Atmos/DTSX processing for 18 months or so why is Emotiva waiting for brand new, untested (in the field) chips? Surely there are other solutions available? Right now (or more correctly over a year ago) there must be plenty of choices that don't involve Emotiva "reinventing the wheel". Who, after all, are a small player in the market and can't possibly get anywhere near the volume and therefore support of the "majors". Logically, piggy backing onto the mainstream, volume, debugged, with thousands of units tested in the real world, makes more sense than going it alone. So unless there is some technical break through that results in better audio and/or video I don't understand why anyone would choose that route. Or, that particular chip is the only one that works with the rest of the XMC-1 for some reason and therefore no other choices are possible. Surely has to be some compelling technical reason to go down the rabbit hole, not just "we want to be different". Cheers Gary |
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Post by klinemj on Mar 9, 2018 15:11:05 GMT -5
^ My take-away was the HDMI v3 boards are coming first. The RMC is waiting for production chips, so if all goes well your looking at May/June. - Rich Mine as well. I took that away at first, but then - there was a statement Dan made that also made it sound like the XMC updates wouldn't be available until after the RMC was in production. This statement started at ~8:25 in the podcast. It would be nice if this was the first clarification Dan Laufman could make. Otherwise, speculation will abound...and speculation gets really old. And, annoying. Mark |
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