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Post by ttocs on Apr 24, 2019 21:26:24 GMT -5
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Post by theowl on Apr 24, 2019 22:36:45 GMT -5
I installed new firmware 5.6 and till now all work perfect .
Previous i had some problem , on Apple TV 4K when cane back from standby no central channel audio or sometime loose handshaking .
Some flickering on my Xbox one s and some handshaking problem with oppo 105 .
But now everything is working very well !
Thanks for all efforts
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Post by AudioHTIT on Apr 25, 2019 0:14:07 GMT -5
This is a cautionary tale, I’m not placing blame as I don’t know what caused this problem. On Tuesday I mentioned installing 5.6 and doing some basic testing of my 4 HDMI sources, they all worked, I also used the system Wednesday without issue. Wednesday afternoon my new (2018) Mac mini arrived, I decided to set it up using the connections from my current (2012) HT Mini, in to HDMI 4 on the XMC-1 and on to my Sony UHD TV. Everything went fine, I setup the new Mini and iCloud, added and updated some Apps, played with scaling, it all looked great.
When I was done I noticed there was an OS X update, so I started it downloading, but then realized it was a couple gig which would be a while on my slow connection, I went to bed. At some point my wife got up and saw that the Mac had finished the update and rebooted, it was sitting at the login prompt, she shut the system down.
This morning when I turned the system back on it would not complete the boot cycle, and stalled after the progress bar completed. I gave it a while, powered it off and tried again, same thing, removed all HDMI, nada. I finally called Emotiva and spoke with Grayson, he had me try the loopback test (all passed), then restart, no joy. Tomorrow I’ll box it up and send it back to Franklin — my DC-1 will serve as preamp while it’s gone — HDMI’s directly to the TV, and optical out to the DC-1. Of course I’m bummed, but it’s beautiful this time of year and I have a lot of mowing to do, I’ll live, and I’m glad others are having better luck.
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Post by khollister on Apr 25, 2019 5:22:08 GMT -5
I was having constant audio format negotiation screwups with 5.4 - what should have been PCM 7.1 (ATV4K, audio as Best Available for lossless with Infuse) would show as PCM 2.0 with no center or surround channels. Switching to another input and back usually fixed it, but not always. I also got multiple low volume clicks when changing input formats (the previews on Netflix for instance). So far, 5.6 appears to have fixed both problems. I do notice that changing input formats now has a slight delay in the audio (mutes for a second) which probably accounts for the clicks being gone.
Aside from the occasional UHD blu-ray on my Panasonic player, day to day viewing is on the ATV4K (Netflix, Prime, Hulu, CBS, Infuse, etc). So far so good - I was getting really frustrated with the audio negotiation issues with 5.4.
I do not use/need ARC/CEC. I control everything with a Harmony Hub and Companion remote.
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Post by geebo on Apr 25, 2019 6:59:13 GMT -5
Hate to rub salt in anyone's wounds but rock solid here. Pretty much both 5.6 and 5.4 were are stable. In the beginning of 5.4 i had an occasional input switch from a 4k source to my cable box that would leave me without audio but it was rare for that to happen. After a while that never happened anymore and now with 5.6 i havent had any issues. Im not posting this to be negative to any posters but to share with Emotiva that the work they are doing is helping some of us. Now a quick question, does the XMC-1 with the V3 hdmi 2.0 board support HDR10? I put in a dics the other day and HDR10 popped up on screen but i didnt remember it being supported. In fact i didnt even know i had a bluray that supported HDR10 until that showed on screen. Have never seen it before. Good to hear you're having the same rock solid experience I've been having. As for HDR10, the V3 board passes both HDR10 and Dolby Vision, and probably HDR10+, though I've not heard any one actually confirm this one way or the other with HDR10+. No issues on my end either. The past few firmwares have loaded flawlessly and worked fine for me. I am not using ARC however and haven't even tried since getting the V2 board installed a few years ago. I got it to work then never tried it again. |
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Post by cwt on Apr 25, 2019 7:02:23 GMT -5
Now a quick question, does the XMC-1 with the V3 hdmi 2.0 board support HDR10? I put in a dics the other day and HDR10 popped up on screen but i didnt remember it being supported. In fact i didnt even know i had a bluray that supported HDR10 until that showed on screen. Have never seen it before. To add to what LC said;UHD discs have mandatory HDR10 ; regular blurays wont show it . If you have a compatible tv you may see dolby vision on certain discs that have variable metadata or HDR10+ which is also better than HDR10  For anyone curious about hdr10+ playback [which should apply to the RMC1 too ]; heres the initial offering forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=300877 |
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Post by darien87 on Apr 25, 2019 14:24:40 GMT -5
Hey all,
Quick update on my situation. I solved the "no picture" issue between the XMC and my Samsung Q8 QLED by using the full reboot power setting. Things have been good since.
On the calibration front, I had a local calibrator come by and calibrate the TV last weekend. He had the TV calibrated in SDR and HDR in about 3 hours. Went to check everything out and noticed that the TV was no longer switching to the ST.2084 color gamut with 4k signals like it had been doing previously. 4k Blu-rays and games from the PS4 were staying at SDR in the BT.1886 gamut. We tried switching to Metra cables and were able to get the TV to switch to ST.2084 when we connected my 4k player directly to the TV but not from the XMC. I tried unplugging the TV and the XMC for a couple of minutes but nothing would work for HDR from the XMC. The calibrator told me the issue had to be the XMC and that I could solve the problem with getting an HDMI splitter. I was all set to do this because in addition to this issue I have an issue with the TV occasionally losing picture for a second when using the PS4. Apparently this is a known issue between some TV's and the PS4. Of course Sony won't admit that the problem is on their side but NONE of my other devices cause the TV to lose picture. Others have been using HDMI switchers to solve this problem.
But lo and behold a few hours later I started playing a game from the PS4 and the TV went into HDR mode and the system has been fine since! I guess all the components just needed to power cycle a few times to re-establish their handshakes. I watched Logan last night and the movie looked spectacular in HDR. I kept thinking to myself, "Wow this movie looks amazing". Now that I have my TV calibrated for HDR I'm going to have to rewatch all my 4k BD's.
I haven't tried the 5.6 firmware yet. I'm a little scared to since everything seems to be working for me right now. I did have the center channel dropout issue once when testing the system with the calibrator but a quick input switch always brings the audio back. Until we get a list of what this new firmware fixes I don't know if I need it. If it will fix my handshake issue between the Samsung TV and the XMC so I can use the video standby mode that would be cool. I would also like a quicker handshake. Right now the XMC seems to take almost 10 seconds to lock on when changing to one of my 4k sources.
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Post by multicore on Apr 25, 2019 14:25:26 GMT -5
I also loaded 5.6 today with success. It will take some time to ensure that all my sources consistently synch properly since this was an intermittent problem, but so far so good.
An interesting tidbit is that ARC started working again for the first time since the 1.4 board (I had been feeding the audio via an optical cable but thought I would try it for grins). No prediction on whether that will last. (I do not use CEC for anything except ARC). I did set my comcast settop input to HDMI type 1.4.
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Post by wilburthegoose on Apr 25, 2019 16:09:49 GMT -5
darien87 - HDMI stinks! Imagine if they had used a good/reliable/fast scheme, like ethernet for this sort of thing!
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Post by krauley on Apr 25, 2019 18:14:42 GMT -5
Now a quick question, does the XMC-1 with the V3 hdmi 2.0 board support HDR10? I put in a dics the other day and HDR10 popped up on screen but i didnt remember it being supported. In fact i didnt even know i had a bluray that supported HDR10 until that showed on screen. Have never seen it before. To add to what LC said;UHD discs have mandatory HDR10 ; regular blurays wont show it . If you have a compatible tv you may see dolby vision on certain discs that have variable metadata or HDR10+ which is also better than HDR10 For anyone curious about hdr10+ playback [which should apply to the RMC1 too ]; heres the initial offering forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=300877I guess to add to this, it wasnt really a good question, but ive had this processor (xmc-1) hooked up to my lg g6 using an oppo203 for almost a year or whenever the v3 board came out. and before that since about december of 2017 the oppo was running straight into the lg but i have never seen the HDR10 logo show up on my screen. what i was wondering but didnt correctly say was why now? did the newest firmware do something to make it show up? also its not a problem or anything i just thought about it when i typed the first post a couple of days ago. ive had the 4k bluray for awhile and have played it but never saw that pop until now. just curious.... |
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Post by doc1963 on Apr 25, 2019 18:36:56 GMT -5
To add to what LC said;UHD discs have mandatory HDR10 ; regular blurays wont show it . If you have a compatible tv you may see dolby vision on certain discs that have variable metadata or HDR10+ which is also better than HDR10 For anyone curious about hdr10+ playback [which should apply to the RMC1 too ]; heres the initial offering forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=300877I guess to add to this, it wasnt really a good question, but ive had this processor (xmc-1) hooked up to my lg g6 using an oppo203 for almost a year or whenever the v3 board came out. and before that since about december of 2017 the oppo was running straight into the lg but i have never seen the HDR10 logo show up on my screen. what i was wondering but didnt correctly say was why now? did the newest firmware do something to make it show up? also its not a problem or anything i just thought about it when i typed the first post a couple of days ago. ive had the 4k bluray for awhile and have played it but never saw that pop until now. just curious.... I’ve had the V3 board since June of last year, have an LG C6 and the UDP-203. In my setup, I’ve had no problems triggering the HDR mode with any firmware all the way back to the original. So, no, there’s nothing new in 5.6 that would have changed this. As a guess, have you changed HDMI inputs on your G6..? If so, maybe the original input you were using didn’t have the HDMI 2.0 mode enabled. I’m sure you’re aware, but just in case you’re not, LG ships their sets with “HDMI Ultra HD Deep Color” (HDMI 2.0) mode disabled on all three inputs. With that setting disabled, you’ll still get 4K resolutions, but no HDR. |
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Post by darien87 on Apr 25, 2019 18:48:28 GMT -5
darien87 - HDMI stinks! Imagine if they had used a good/reliable/fast scheme, like ethernet for this sort of thing! Now that I think about it, it could be the TV that is the culprit as I get the "spinning wheel" of the TV on the screen until the picture shows up. But one annoying the XMC does since installing the new board is that it takes forever to switch between inputs sometimes. Like I will press the up input arrow on the remote, realize that was the wrong direction and immediately press the down input arrow and the XMC will sit there for up to 10 seconds or so before actually switching. I see the power button flash so I know the XMC received the signal it just takes it forever to actually carry out the command sometimes. |
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Post by doc1963 on Apr 25, 2019 18:59:58 GMT -5
darien87 - HDMI stinks! Imagine if they had used a good/reliable/fast scheme, like ethernet for this sort of thing! Now that I think about it, it could be the TV that is the culprit as I get the "spinning wheel" of the TV on the screen until the picture shows up. But one annoying the XMC does since installing the new board is that it takes forever to switch between inputs sometimes. Like I will press the up input arrow on the remote, realize that was the wrong direction and immediately press the down input arrow and the XMC will sit there for up to 10 seconds or so before actually switching. I see the power button flash so I know the XMC received the signal it just takes it forever to actually carry out the command sometimes. Programming and using the “Direct Input” buttons will buy you a few seconds and with a lot less frustration, but 10-13 seconds to switch inputs is the “new normal” for the V3 board. Hopefully, with time, they can improve this. But for now, we’ll just have to get used to it. |
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Post by krauley on Apr 25, 2019 22:25:02 GMT -5
I guess to add to this, it wasnt really a good question, but ive had this processor (xmc-1) hooked up to my lg g6 using an oppo203 for almost a year or whenever the v3 board came out. and before that since about december of 2017 the oppo was running straight into the lg but i have never seen the HDR10 logo show up on my screen. what i was wondering but didnt correctly say was why now? did the newest firmware do something to make it show up? also its not a problem or anything i just thought about it when i typed the first post a couple of days ago. ive had the 4k bluray for awhile and have played it but never saw that pop until now. just curious.... I’ve had the V3 board since June of last year, have an LG C6 and the UDP-203. In my setup, I’ve had no problems triggering the HDR mode with any firmware all the way back to the original. So, no, there’s nothing new in 5.6 that would have changed this. As a guess, have you changed HDMI inputs on your G6..? If so, maybe the original input you were using didn’t have the HDMI 2.0 mode enabled. I’m sure you’re aware, but just in case you’re not, LG ships their sets with “HDMI Ultra HD Deep Color” (HDMI 2.0) mode disabled on all three inputs. With that setting disabled, you’ll still get 4K resolutions, but no HDR. HDR has always showed up on the screen in the upper right hand corner when playing a source with hdr, what im saying is "HDR10" which shows up in the upper left hand corner at the start of certain 4k blurays just as "Dolby Vision" shows up at the start of a certain 4k blurays. Ive just never seen it before. its really not a big deal i just wondered if this had something to do with 5.6. ok so reading up on hdr formats helped explain to me what the hdr10 poppup was but why i havent seen it before is whats confusing me. i have 1 hdr10+ disc but im not sure if its supported by lg since it is a samsung format so i dont know if it will decode on my g6. I have a few DV discs that do show "Dolby Vision" everytime. |
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Post by doc1963 on Apr 25, 2019 22:50:14 GMT -5
I’ve had the V3 board since June of last year, have an LG C6 and the UDP-203. In my setup, I’ve had no problems triggering the HDR mode with any firmware all the way back to the original. So, no, there’s nothing new in 5.6 that would have changed this. As a guess, have you changed HDMI inputs on your G6..? If so, maybe the original input you were using didn’t have the HDMI 2.0 mode enabled. I’m sure you’re aware, but just in case you’re not, LG ships their sets with “HDMI Ultra HD Deep Color” (HDMI 2.0) mode disabled on all three inputs. With that setting disabled, you’ll still get 4K resolutions, but no HDR. HDR has always showed up on the screen in the upper right hand corner when playing a source with hdr, what im saying is "HDR10" which shows up in the upper left hand corner at the start of certain 4k blurays just as "Dolby Vision" shows up at the start of a certain 4k blurays. Ive just never seen it before. its really not a big deal i just wondered if this had something to do with 5.6. I see... the “HDR-10” banner that displays in the upper left hand corner is a display function of your Oppo. While still not a function of the XMC-1 firmware, the subsequent handshake following the vide mode change (SDR > HDR) may be happening quickly enough for you to now see it. |
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Post by doc1963 on Apr 25, 2019 22:59:17 GMT -5
I’ve had the V3 board since June of last year, have an LG C6 and the UDP-203. In my setup, I’ve had no problems triggering the HDR mode with any firmware all the way back to the original. So, no, there’s nothing new in 5.6 that would have changed this. As a guess, have you changed HDMI inputs on your G6..? If so, maybe the original input you were using didn’t have the HDMI 2.0 mode enabled. I’m sure you’re aware, but just in case you’re not, LG ships their sets with “HDMI Ultra HD Deep Color” (HDMI 2.0) mode disabled on all three inputs. With that setting disabled, you’ll still get 4K resolutions, but no HDR. HDR has always showed up on the screen in the upper right hand corner when playing a source with hdr, what im saying is "HDR10" which shows up in the upper left hand corner at the start of certain 4k blurays just as "Dolby Vision" shows up at the start of a certain 4k blurays. Ive just never seen it before. its really not a big deal i just wondered if this had something to do with 5.6. ok so reading up on hdr formats helped explain to me what the hdr10 poppup was but why i havent seen it before is whats confusing me. i have 1 hdr10+ disc but im not sure if its supported by lg since it is a samsung format so i dont know if it will decode on my g6. I have a few DV discs that do show "Dolby Vision" everytime. Your LG does not support HDR10+ (and likely never will), but just like with Dolby Vision discs, all HDR10+ discs must contain an HDR-10 compatible base layer as is mandated by the UHD Blu-ray spec. This HDR-10 encoding is what your Oppo is sending. |
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Post by krauley on Apr 26, 2019 7:45:34 GMT -5
HDR has always showed up on the screen in the upper right hand corner when playing a source with hdr, what im saying is "HDR10" which shows up in the upper left hand corner at the start of certain 4k blurays just as "Dolby Vision" shows up at the start of a certain 4k blurays. Ive just never seen it before. its really not a big deal i just wondered if this had something to do with 5.6. ok so reading up on hdr formats helped explain to me what the hdr10 poppup was but why i havent seen it before is whats confusing me. i have 1 hdr10+ disc but im not sure if its supported by lg since it is a samsung format so i dont know if it will decode on my g6. I have a few DV discs that do show "Dolby Vision" everytime. I see... the “HDR-10” banner that displays in the upper left hand corner is a display function of your Oppo. While still not a function of the XMC-1 firmware, the subsequent handshake following the vide mode change (SDR > HDR) may be happening quickly enough for you to now see it. Your LG does not support HDR10+ (and likely never will), but just like with Dolby Vision discs, all HDR10+ discs must contain an HDR-10 compatible base layer as is mandated by the UHD Blu-ray spec. This HDR-10 encoding is what your Oppo is sending. Makes sense and thanks for keeping me educated haha. I guess its a good thing to have no problems with my system that my time is spent worrying about what text is popping up on my screen huh  |
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Post by ttocs on Apr 26, 2019 8:05:04 GMT -5
Is there anything from the Big E folks to report on the ATV4K PCM 7.1 / Back Channel failure issue?
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Post by millst on Apr 26, 2019 10:10:35 GMT -5
darien87 - HDMI stinks! Imagine if they had used a good/reliable/fast scheme, like ethernet for this sort of thing! You might not like the price. You’d need 10 gigabit just to handle older HDMI 1.4 capability. |
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Post by ÈlTwo on Apr 26, 2019 12:02:02 GMT -5
darien87 - HDMI stinks! Imagine if they had used a good/reliable/fast scheme, like ethernet for this sort of thing! You might not like the price. You’d need 10 gigabit just to handle older HDMI 1.4 capability. You know what they say "you get what you pay for." |
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