Official V3 HDMI Board Thread

[wilburthegoose]

A suggestion for the power cycle - I just flip circuit breaker 9 on my panel to off, let it sit without power for a while, and flip the switch back.

It's a helluva lot easier than power cycling every device.

[donh50]

I have a UPS so just power cycle it (or the power strip). I think I am going to swap things around so my network WAP stays "hot" and I can flip a switch on a power strip to kill all the HDMI stuff. Re-establishing the network can take a while. Flipping a breaker would work for me but in some rooms you might be turning off things you don't want to, like lights in the basement... Or maybe I'm just rationalizing since my UPS is closer than the service box upstairs and I'm lazy.

I am having the "no sound on start-up" almost every time I turn it on (out of standby) now. Last time it got to this point I did a full power cycle and it was better -- for a while. Have to wait and see what this latest FW does. I really wanted the features of the new video board but still dealing with bugs a year after it was installed is vexing. I have high hopes for this release...

AFAIK I've never had just the center go out (so now it will, natch). When the center goes away, or does not come up, does the LCD still say surround sound mode, or did the whole thing drop to stereo (2.0)?

Curious - Don

p.s. The strange loud burst and power cycling issue I had a month or two ago has not returned. I need to ping Keith again and let him know; despite my frustration with a lot of things, my direct interaction with Keith and a few of the other Emotiva folk has always been good. They usually respond quickly and I've been able to email/talk with some of the engineers on a couple of issues. As an anal design engineer myself I appreciate that sort of contact, especially given the time it takes away to pull an engineer into a customer issue.

[Gary Cook]

Apr 24, 2019 7:53:59 GMT -5 thrillcat said:

Apr 24, 2019 6:03:17 GMT -5 cawgijoe said:

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This is with Directv....I will try the Oppo 203 tonight to see if I get the same result. This happened with the previous firmware also. I have mentioned this multiple times and was hoping that this new firmware would have addressed the issue. I don't believe I'm the only one this has happened to.

I have a similar issue (haven’t tried this update yet) that drops the center channel when surround sound modes change without proper flags. Like when HBO GO goes from the Dolby 2.0 episode recap into Dolby 5.1 of the main program, it doesn’t seem to be giving the proper notification, so the XMC-1 is remaining in 2.0 and not playing the center or surround channels.

I talked with Lonnie Lonnie about it and he said they had noticed similar things on their end. I’m hoping this update addresses it, but haven’t had a chance to do the install yet.

Sorry I’m confused, have I got this right, it isn’t just the centre channel (that’s not working) it’s all of the surround speakers (only the stereo pair work). That makes much more sense than just the centre channel not working. It’s an audio mode switching problem, which with Direct TV is far from unusual, a well known and well documented problem. We have the same issues here (in Australia) with boxes from the same manufacturer (different retailer of course). They have lousy handshaking protocols and I seriously doubt that Emotiva will ever completely solve that problem.

The cable box is the only source that I have ever had an issue with, but because it’s the most common source I use the low power standby on the XMC-1. From day 1 this eliminated the problem, together with blocking the low definition channels where the audio protocols are horrid. In one 2 minute add break they will often switch between every mode of audio, from mono to DD5.1 and back via stereo 2.1. The high definition channels don’t do that.

Cheers
Gary

[ttocs]

^^^^^^
I had a Center Channel only dropout with one or two firmwares ago. Never had it before, or now with 5.6.

[cawgijoe]

Thanks All. I’ll play with it some more tonight and report back.

[sgracing]

Well don't know how to say this nicely , but here it goes!
Installed 5.6 firmware and now can't get to boot with sound ! Something is definitely wrong! Added an optic cable to get sound! Now no dolbys ,none ! I hate fiber optics!
CEC is still messed up! Doesn't retain any settings! None !
I spent the better part of the day trying all the fore mentioned ideas from this forum!
I must have a defective hdmi board.
Loaded firmware three times .
So to conclude my experience with this product . It's time to move on !

Good luck with this poorly engineered product !
Not waiting 6 more months for emotiva to waist my time with a guess!
It is clear that the new board is a big letdown for emotiva !

[bitzerjdb]

I upgraded the firmware yesterday and did a "UPS Shutdown". Something new is happening on switching inputs. The "Switch" happens, a picture (no sound) appears on the screen, then the screen goes blank again, and comes back with Video/Audio. It's almost like a double sync is happening.

Not a big deal as long as the lock holds. This behavior happens for all of my devices.

[wilburthegoose]

sgracing -
1 - CEC is hit or miss, regardless of vendor. It's only guaranteed to work if you keep with one company, like Sony. I've never gotten anything to work with my LG TV.
2 - I suggest you power everything down overnight and try again in the morning. Like Don noted above, you could flip the power on your surge protector/UPS, or just flip the circuit breaker.
3 - No need to reload software.
4 - Last option before you spend $$$ on something new - try a factory reset on the XMC-1. Remember that processors and AVRs today are actually computers, and like all computers are subject to entropy (things become disorganized over time).

bitzerjdb -
I'm seeing exactly the same thing. I was worried I was losing a handshake, but it's locking 100% of the time. I let my wife know about it - it's not that big of a deal if it gets a solid lock 100% of the time.

Lastly - a post a page back wondered if Emotiva is treating the HDMI 2.0 copyright protections more seriously than guys like Denon/Marantz or the other big shops. I think the poster may have a valid question there. The XMC-1 has pretty powerful processors, and should be able to negotiate a handshake pretty quickly. Obviously, Denon/Martanz (for example) isn't going to hand over their code, but perhaps a little research on this topic by Emotiva could pay dividends.

[LCSeminole]

sgracing, I don't remember what display and sources you are using, but if you are still mainly using 1080p/HDMI 1.4 equipment, have you tried selecting the HDMI 1.4 option in each of your INPUTs for those sources? Setup --> Inputs --> HDMI 1 --> HDMI Type --> 1.4

The "HDMI Type" option is per Input so you'll need to choose this for each of your HDMI sources.

[sgracing]

Apr 24, 2019 18:29:38 GMT -5 LCSeminole said:

sgracing, I don't remember what display and sources you are using, but if you are still mainly using 1080p/HDMI 1.4 equipment, have you tried selecting the HDMI 1.4 option in each of your INPUTs for those sources? Setup --> Inputs --> HDMI 1 --> HDMI Type --> 1.4

The "HDMI Type" option is per Input so you'll need to choose this for each of your HDMI sources.

All I'm trying to do is connect the Sony Z9D. Its hdmi 2.0b both Oppos are unpluged. One link with a 3m audioquest carbon hdmi directional for CEC. Very simple!

[sgracing]

Only input is arc on both and the TV is my expensive steaming device.
TV is 2.0b

[krauley]

Hate to rub salt in anyone's wounds but rock solid here. Pretty much both 5.6 and 5.4 were are stable. In the beginning of 5.4 i had an occasional input switch from a 4k source to my cable box that would leave me without audio but it was rare for that to happen. After a while that never happened anymore and now with 5.6 i havent had any issues. Im not posting this to be negative to any posters but to share with Emotiva that the work they are doing is helping some of us.

Now a quick question, does the XMC-1 with the V3 hdmi 2.0 board support HDR10? I put in a dics the other day and HDR10 popped up on screen but i didnt remember it being supported. In fact i didnt even know i had a bluray that supported HDR10 until that showed on screen. Have never seen it before.

[ttocs]

Every firmware update I do includes Factory Reset since LCSeminole suggested it way back when.

Because I'm nuts I follow this routine:

Save settings
Factory Reset and make sure Standby: Lowest Power is selected
Standby, turn back on, Standby, switch power off,
Disconnect power to all HDMI type devices
Turn on and Update Firmware, after it goes into Standby switch off power
Afte a little wait reconnect power to all devices, power up and check it out.

[Gary Cook]

Apr 24, 2019 18:53:16 GMT -5 sgracing said:

Only input is arc on both and the TV is my expensive steaming device.
TV is 2.0b

I only have one suggestion, give up on the ARC/CEC, it’s horrible, hardly ever works and is so intermittent/unpredictable even when it does work. I have had zero success, never, ever, even my Sony TV wouldn’t talk to my Sony BD player. Despite hours (days) of trying plus help from Sony Customer Care, their conclusion was different HDCP protocols, their solution buy a newer model TV. So I did, I bought a Samsung.

Cheers
Gary

[sgracing]

Apr 24, 2019 19:06:20 GMT -5 ttocs said:

Every firmware update I do includes Factory Reset since LCSeminole suggested it way back when.

Because I'm nuts I follow this routine:

Save settings
Factory Reset and make sure Standby: Lowest Power is selected
Standby, turn back on, Standby, switch power off,
Disconnect power to all HDMI type devices
Turn on and Update Firmware, after it goes into Standby switch off power
Afte a little wait reconnect power to all devices, power up and check it out.

I have done exactly that three times , again it appears that I'm one of the few that use ARC channel for communicating with the XMC-1 , again i use the tv for a streaming device . I use the ess dac in the tv for streaming. The tv controles all devices.

[LCSeminole]

Apr 24, 2019 18:56:25 GMT -5 krauley said:

Hate to rub salt in anyone's wounds but rock solid here. Pretty much both 5.6 and 5.4 were are stable. In the beginning of 5.4 i had an occasional input switch from a 4k source to my cable box that would leave me without audio but it was rare for that to happen. After a while that never happened anymore and now with 5.6 i havent had any issues. Im not posting this to be negative to any posters but to share with Emotiva that the work they are doing is helping some of us.

Now a quick question, does the XMC-1 with the V3 hdmi 2.0 board support HDR10? I put in a dics the other day and HDR10 popped up on screen but i didnt remember it being supported. In fact i didnt even know i had a bluray that supported HDR10 until that showed on screen. Have never seen it before.

Good to hear you're having the same rock solid experience I've been having. As for HDR10, the V3 board passes both HDR10 and Dolby Vision, and probably HDR10+, though I've not heard any one actually confirm this one way or the other with HDR10+.

[Gary Cook]

Apr 24, 2019 19:26:23 GMT -5 LCSeminole said:

Apr 24, 2019 18:56:25 GMT -5 krauley said:

Hate to rub salt in anyone's wounds but rock solid here. Pretty much both 5.6 and 5.4 were are stable. In the beginning of 5.4 i had an occasional input switch from a 4k source to my cable box that would leave me without audio but it was rare for that to happen. After a while that never happened anymore and now with 5.6 i havent had any issues. Im not posting this to be negative to any posters but to share with Emotiva that the work they are doing is helping some of us.

Now a quick question, does the XMC-1 with the V3 hdmi 2.0 board support HDR10? I put in a dics the other day and HDR10 popped up on screen but i didnt remember it being supported. In fact i didnt even know i had a bluray that supported HDR10 until that showed on screen. Have never seen it before.

Good to hear you're having the same rock solid experience I've been having. As for HDR10, the V3 board passes both HDR10 and Dolby Vision, and probably HDR10+, though I've not heard any one actually confirm this one way or the other with HDR10+.

Me three, no problems since day 1 and I’m still on the original software version.

Cheers
Gary

[sgracing]

So here is my question of the day .
I want to listen to music from my tv
And play back through the XMC-1 to the tv from a third device (Oppo player )
HOW ?

[ttocs]

Gary, what about the Back Surround when streaming PCM from ATV4K? Work? or No Work?

Also, for you 'tree yutes, Gary, LCSeminole, and krauley, how long does it take to switch inputs? Mine ranges from 13-18 seconds with a variety of video blips during the process depending on the from/to sequence.

Other than that I have no issues.

[cawgijoe]

So, I changed the HDMI for the Directv input to 1.4 from 2.0 and on turn on the center channel comes on.